Agreed. Guns tend to weed out their owners & like-minded people over time. There should be no restrictions and no exceptions to where they can be carried. The system has been working perfectly as of late--Las Vegas, especially yesterday in Texas, though we could have used more fatalities in DC. Tax credits for gun ownership should be central to the current tax cut debates.

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"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

If you have a good idea, or solutions to suggest, I'm more than willing to listen to them and discuss them. I'm actually quite open minded on the issue, regardless of what you may think. However, sarcastic posts don't advance anybody's agenda, they don't solve issues, in fact they're only good for creating division and makes both sides less likely to reach an accord.

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I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on what should be done, if anything.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

My suggestions were serious.

I don't want a spate of new laws. I want a few modifications and enhanced penalties for breaking the law.

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Well, I would respectfully suggest that your ideology is again driving what you think is “delusional.”

The person who you call delusional in this instance is one piece of legislation away from being correct. And given today’s political climate, nothing in the judiciary would be surprising.

I’m not advocating one way or the other, but I think you tend to call others “insane” or “delusional” when they are simply the Right Wing version of someone you call “idealistic.”

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I believe I've posted them several times over the years. But I'll go over it again if you wish.

I am all for as long a waiting period as possible. I wouldn't blink at a 30 day wait... go over everything you can think of as far as background checks.

I'm in favor of extremely harsh punishments for illegal gun ownership. Possession of an illegal firearm should be a very serious felony. Mandatory jail time.

Mandatory general safety training prior to legal gun ownership. Mandatory safety training for every model you purchase. You must pass a test indicating you are capable of handling, field stripping, assembling, and firing the exact model you wish to purchase and you must demonstrate you are competent in the aforementioned aspects of ownership.

Fully automatic weapons ban.

Modifying semi auto weapons into full auto ban.

I would consider mandatory insurance as well although I'm not sure of the constitutional legality of such a requirement.

Commit a felony and lose your gun ownership credentials. They may be reinstated after a legal review, but if it's a gun crime, you're finished.

Every firearm sale must go thru a federally licensed dealer. Forget private transfers unless there is a federally licensed dealer acting as a middleman with all the above waiting periods and background checks in effect. This means closing the gun show loophole. You can still go to them, and buy there, but again with the waiting period and checks.


Firearms to me are a fun past time. It's a fun way to spend an afternoon. I enjoy honing my skills. I enjoy hunting. My firearms are intended to be a leisurely pursuit with the side effect of being something that can be used to protect my family and property if necessary.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Why bother having states then?

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

There really isn't much of a reason as currently constituted, imo

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Hey reader, you asked for it... I spent time typing it... any feedback?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

We are in almost complete agreement, but I must admit that I took apart a 380 under the guise of cleaning it, and thought better of trying to safely putting it back together. Or rather trusting my attempts to do so.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Why are you playing with a woman gun?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Did someone say the Chris Rock bit yet? Bullet control is the only viable solution.

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25 years ago I needed something easily concealed. I used to collect rents, and I had it for unneeded insurance

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Yeah but a 380 just pisses people off.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Not in 1990. And I wasn't thinking about having to shoot at anything past 10 feet, if that

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

My wife almost bought a 380 a few months ago until she said it's a weird pussy gun and bought a 9mm.
She has buyers remorse. She likes my 1911 better.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

In a delightful bit of serendipity, a site streaming random Simpsons episodes is running the one where anarchy breaks out after the soccer game and Homer buys a gun.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I quickly wished that I'd gotten a basic 38 after the damn thing jammed on me once

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Can't argue with a wheel gun.
If it doesn't fire you can throw it at the guy.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

How about we just bam shooting/killing people? That should be more effective then going after a tool (especially in the wake of a dishonorably discharged ex-military guy going off.... Aren't they not supposed to be able to own guns anyways?)

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Well the fed mandated a national minimum drinking age and our fragile state system didn't collapse. Maybe something as important as gun laws would slide through too. Then, could gun offenses be made a federal case?

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Marge, a gun isn't a weapon. It's a tool. Like a harpoon. Or an alligator.

I agree with Darkside.

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Animals can lead to a happier life. So, the solution seems simple: Free puppies for all!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The left doesn't want gun control, they want guns outright banned. When I was a young, naive lad I always wondered why the right refused to compromise when it comes to gun control. The reason is because the right doesn't trust the left and knows that it's all just a giant shit test. If the right compromises the left will just ask for more until they finally get their way.

We saw it with homosexuality. It all started with the tolerance movement. That seemed fine with me as I'm not religious. Just because you're gay doesn't mean you don't deserve the same rights as me. Then came the normalisation of it which there's nothing normal about and now here we are where someone who identifies as the other gender and cuts their junk off is a normal, beautiful lady.

The left has their agenda and won't stop until their goal's are met. The right are beyond tired of it.

Gun control is not happening. Move on already.

No, there are lots of idealistic things that right wingers say about taxes and upward mobility/personal responsibility. The left says crazy things too (women's rights, impeachment)

Any version of "they're taking my guns" in this country in this time is absouluetely crazy.

You've taken to defending all the crazy parts of the right wing lately and this is just another example of you trying to equate them to a very logical statement "we should do something about the mass shootings"

Building off Hockey Gay's post (but not quoting it because I am not sure what he is saying) there are issues like this on both sides. Issue in which there are real constitutional rights involved at the very core. For argument about guns on the right there are issues the left defends that are just as immovable.

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Elections have consequences.

It's hard to know if you are trolling or not but this is a really stupid thing to say.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

In your perfect world, what measures if any would you enact? Any? Or like Gay, do you think having to deal with mass shootings is just the cost of doing business?

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I think that people that defend guns rights that are not insane do not mean this absolutely literally. Most I know are more of the don't give them an inch because they will take a mile variety. Also, many ideas people come up with as far as reasonable controls are not always well informed or reasonable at all.

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Elections have consequences.

Not true at all.

Some of them want bans on only certain guns like fully automatic weapons. I have never heard one legitimate politician say that they want to ban all guns. It can't happen, it won't happen, so quit making things up.

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