It has a chilling effect, which itself can be unconstitutional. Registration dissuades people (whether by cost of compliance, burden, fear, etc.) from exercising their right, which is an infringement on the right itself.

I did not say this.

It has a chilling effect, which itself can be unconstitutional. Registration dissuades people (whether by cost of compliance, burden, fear, etc.) from exercising their right, which is an infringement on the right itself.

Odd. MANY people against registering guns are strongly for more stringent voter registration.

what about those of us who are against both voter ID laws and gun registrations?

fringe

This is the very reason voter ID laws are bullshit...

If we are ideologically consistent, we should see gun registries and voter ID laws as infringements upon our rights.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

what about those of us who are against both voter ID laws and gun registrations?

what about those of us who are against both voter ID laws and gun registrations?

It has a chilling effect, which itself can be unconstitutional. Registration dissuades people (whether by cost of compliance, burden, fear, etc.) from exercising their right, which is an infringement on the right itself.

The problem is that you act like Constitutional rights are somehow immune from any sort of regulation when that is false. You can be "dissuaded" from your right without it violating your overall right. Free speech alone has many examples.

To rpbs point about valuing the 2nd amendment over the lives of others...
I do indeed value the 2nd amendment over the lives of others. And pretty much the whole constitution. I value it over my own life, as should anyone in this country protected by this document. Miilions have died protecting these rights. Hundreds of thousands died obtaining these rights. They are worth more than individual lives for without them individual lives have no liberty, no safety, no protection against the inevitable atrocities committed by a country with no limitations.
This document and the rights contained within are the reason we don't live in a place that's similar to north Korea or Syria or any other litany of god awful places with a merciless government run amok. It's why we don't have coups every 5 years. It's why we're here talking about this today. It is indeed the very identity of this country, and I believe in my heart that the United States is valued over any number of its citizens.

Caleb Williams isn't really a "true" rookie because he turned 23 late into his 1st season in the NFL!"

You have to pay for a FOID card as it is right now. You have to pay further for a Conceal Carry license, plus take a course to satisfy further requirements. Said course costs money too.

The problem is that you act like Constitutional rights are somehow immune from any sort of regulation when that is false.

Rick, you're missing the point. Sure all of those other constitutional rights have reasonable and rational exceptions and restrictions on them, but if you make any sort of reasonable restriction on the 2nd amendment the only logical inference/conclusion is that the Federal government will first confiscate every gun in the USA, then melt them down, and then impose a communist style dictatorial regime upon the citizens.

I mean this isn't hard to understand, it's Civics 101 stuff...

Rick, you're missing the point. Sure all of those other constitutional rights have reasonable and rational exceptions and restrictions on them, but if you make any sort of reasonable restriction on the 2nd amendment the only logical inference/conclusion is that the Federal government will first confiscate every gun in the USA, then melt them down, and then impose a communist style dictatorial regime upon the citizens.

I mean this isn't hard to understand, it's Civics 101 stuff...

No, I don't act like that. I comprehend the nuance of reasonable restrictions (time, place, manner, etc.) in the trade-off between protecting explicitly granted freedoms and maintaining a functioning society.

What I do act like is someone who thinks that with all the other restrictions placed on gun ownership and possession (not always the same thing, mind you), the burdens placed on the individual when seeking to purchase a firearm (which itself is recorded by the government), much less carry it in public, etc., any forced registration of a firearm tips the scale of burden towards "unconstitutional".

Nope. I'm good without people having guns.

But it'll never happen. So it's just hope I'm not anywhere where a loon is shooting people.

Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

Rick, you're missing the point. Sure all of those other constitutional rights have reasonable and rational exceptions and restrictions on them, but if you make any sort of reasonable restriction on the 2nd amendment the only logical inference/conclusion is that the Federal government will first confiscate every gun in the USA, then melt them down, and then impose a communist style dictatorial regime upon the citizens.

I mean this isn't hard to understand, it's Civics 101 stuff...

You are though. Your issue with a registry was clear.

That sounds like a made up line. If we already have these restrictions then why can't we literally have a list of gun owners?

This is what a slippery slope looks like, kids.

Wait a minute, I thought you aren't acting like Constitutional rights are somehow immune from any sort of regulation, and yet you are here using the slippery slope argument about any type of added gun control. Hmmmmm.

Cuck a doodle doo

Ya, you're definitely 1 or 1a on the board of people it'd be smart to stay away from. Very worrisome posts.

Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

Let's see if you can figure out the difference.

You're in luck. I don't associate with fat man children.

#low energy
#SAD

I can't. The definition of a slippery slope argument is that if you start doing something that it will lead to a series of bad things. You chose to use the analogy that indicates that we never should have had any sort of regulation on guns because of the 2nd amendment.

totally normal

I have met you. You are not fat.