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Politics is not a baseball game, and it is not a soap opera.

People are hurting in this country, and our job is not to be distracted by political gossip and Donald Trump's tweets. Our job is to revitalize American democracy and bring millions of people into the political process who today do not vote and who do not believe that government is relevant to their lives. Our job is to create an economy and government that works for all of us, not just the 1 percent and wealthy campaign contributors.

Here's the problem: the strategy the Democratic Party has been pursuing in recent years has failed. Since 2009, Democrats have lost more than 1,000 seats in state legislatures across the country. Republicans now control the White House, 34 out of 50 governorships as well as the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. In dozens of states, the Democratic Party is virtually non-existent. Too much is at stake for our country and our people for us not to learn from our past failures and move forward in a way that makes the Democratic Party stronger so we can take on and beat Trump and the right-wing Republican agenda.

What the recently released book excerpt from former interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile made clear is that unless we get our act together, we are not going to be effective in either taking on Donald Trump or in stopping the extremist right-wing Republican agenda. We have to re-establish faith with the American people that in fact we can make positive changes in this country through a fair and transparent political process that reflects the will of voters across this country.

In order to do that, we need to rethink and rebuild the Democratic Party. We need a Democratic Party that opens its doors to new people, new energy and new ideas. We need a Democratic Party that is truly a grassroots party, where decisions are made from the bottom up, not from the top down. We need a Democratic Party which becomes the political home of the working people and young people of this country, black and white, Latino and Asian and Native American ... all Americans.

And we need to make it abundantly clear that the Democratic Party is prepared to take on the ideology of the Koch brothers and the billionaire class – a small group of people who are undermining American democracy and moving this country into an oligarchic form of society. YES. We will take on the greed, recklessness and illegal behavior of Wall Street, corporate America, the insurance industry, the drug companies, and the fossil fuel industry.

Now, what the Establishment (political, economic and media) wants us to believe is that real and fundamental changes in our society are impossible.

No. We cannot guarantee health care to all as a right. No. We cannot revitalize the trade union movement, raise the minimum wage to a living wage of $15 an hour and provide pay equity for women. No. We cannot effectively compete in the global economy by making public colleges and universities tuition-free. No. We cannot lead the world in combatting climate change and transforming our energy system away from fossil fuels. No. We cannot reform our broken criminal justice system or finally achieve comprehensive immigration reform.

They want us to think that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, a nation which has more income and wealth inequality than almost any nation on earth, the best that we can do is to accept tiny, incremental change.

I could not disagree more.

Right now, a Democratic National Committee Unity Reform Commission, comprised of people who supported our campaign, people who supported Secretary Clinton's campaign, and people appointed by DNC Chair Tom Perez are working on a set of policies that will determine the future direction of the Democratic Party. In many ways, this Unity Commission will determine whether the Party goes forward in a dynamic and inclusive way, or whether it retains the failed status quo approach of recent years. It will determine whether the Party will have the grassroots energy to effectively take on Donald Trump, the Republican Party and their reactionary agenda or whether we remain in the minority.

In my view, this Commission must:

- Make the Democratic Party more democratic and the presidential contests more fair by dramatically reducing the number of superdelegates who participate in the nominating process. It is absurd that in the last presidential primary over 700 superdelegates (almost one-third of the delegates a candidate needed to win the nomination) had the power to ignore the will of the people who voted in the state primaries and caucuses.
- Make primaries more open by ending the absurdity of closed primary systems with antiquated, arbitrary and discriminatory voter registration laws. Republicans are the ones who make it harder for people to vote, not Democrats. At a time when more and more people consider themselves to be Independents our job is to bring people into the Democratic Party process, not exclude them. It is incredibly undemocratic that in some states voters must declare their party affiliation up to six months before the primary election.
- Make it easier for working people and students to participate in state caucuses. While there is much to be said for bringing people together face-to-face in a caucus to discuss why they support the candidate of their choice, not everybody is able to attend those caucuses at the time they are held. A process must be developed that gives everyone the right to cast a vote even if they are not physically able to attend a state caucus.
- Make the DNC's budget and decision-making processes more open and transparent. If we are going to build a Party that relies on working people who are willing to give $5, $10 and $27 donations, they deserve to know where that money is going and how those decisions are made.

I look forward to following the progress of the Unity Reform Commission, and I urge Chairman Tom Perez and the entire Democratic National Committee to develop policies which move the Democratic Party forward in a very different direction – a direction that will lead us to national and statewide victories. It's important that you do the same:

Please sign the petition calling on the Democratic National Committee and Chairman Tom Perez to accept, support and implement policies which make the Democratic Party more inclusive, more democratic and more transparent.

Right now, our job is to come together, and not be distracted by the political gossip and drama of the moment. We must fight President Trump's destructive efforts to divide us up by the color of our skin, our gender, our religion, our sexual orientation or our country of origin. We must rally the American people to oppose Trump's proposal to provide massive tax giveaways to billionaires while taking away the health care that millions now have.
But we must also make it clear – if we are going to elect Democrats who will move us forward as a country – that we must institute long-needed reforms in the Democratic Party. When we do that, we will not only create a dynamic and progressive party, we will be able to transform our nation and create a government that represents all of us, not just the people on top.

In solidarity,
Bernie Sanders


He gets it.


Props to you for posting something remotely positive.

Let's make it a trend now.

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In solidarity as a non-Democrat,
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I would take it a step further and get rid of caucuses, at least in terms of contests that send delegates to the convention. Every state or state-equivalent should have an open primary, full-stop.

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Washington (CNN) - Favorable views of the Democratic Party have dropped to their lowest mark in more than a quarter century of polling, according to new numbers from a CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Democrats, down from 44% in March of this year. A majority, 54%, have an unfavorable view, matching their highest mark in polls from CNN and SSRS, CNN/ORC and CNN/USA Today/Gallup stretching back to 1992.


Yeah, everyone hates a party of sneering nerds.

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Also, their Presidential candidates pay to have people dress as Donald Duck and go to opposition rallies. With that kind of leadership and good ideas, how could they go wrong?

I didn't know what you were talking about here but apparently yes, Hillary herself wanted people to dress as Donald Duck. Donna Brazile had to say "kill the fucking duck." What is this world we live in?

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It's long overdue for a 3rd party, a labor union party.

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We need a party to represent the wealthy.

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312player wrote:
It's long overdue for a 3rd party, a labor union party.

Labor unions represent less than 10% of the US population, that party would get killed... I know a thing or two about voting for a party that never wins, afterall I'm a Libertarian.

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leashyourkids wrote:
We need a party to represent the wealthy.


I thought that was the Republicans?

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The guys at DDHQ are saying they see troubling exit polls in VA for the dems. I figure this thread is the appropriate one for it. Granted exit polls, like other polls, can be off.

We'll see how this plays out

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
312player wrote:
It's long overdue for a 3rd party, a labor union party.

Labor unions represent less than 10% of the US population, that party would get killed... I know a thing or two about voting for a party that never wins, afterall I'm a Libertarian.


But a 10% voting bloc could sway virtually any national election. And labor union members are human lemmings.

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Seacrest wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
312player wrote:
It's long overdue for a 3rd party, a labor union party.

Labor unions represent less than 10% of the US population, that party would get killed... I know a thing or two about voting for a party that never wins, afterall I'm a Libertarian.


But a 10% voting bloc could sway virtually any national election. And labor union members are human lemmings.


They're all married to Dennis?

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Shitty as they may be, they're off to a great start tonight.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Good to see. All we need are Libertarians and Republicans and everyone will be doing well.

Where do the Blacks go?

They won't be allowed to vote anymore. Look at Wisconsin.


Blaming black voters for not finding Hillary an acceptable candidate worth voting for.

Pretty bad, even by your standards.

I guess calling them super-predators really motivated them to vote



This has always been a false assertion. The urban myth associated with that particular comment has been allowed to grow with time. Fact is that she was referring to gangs and not blacks. She clearly stated that gangs functioned like superpredators.


Here is the comment in its entirety


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 ... redators/#

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Holy shit, Virginia is a bloodbath.


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Holy shit, Virginia is a bloodbath.

This is their night. Granted, Virginia hasn't been a red state since 2004, but winning the races they should win is a good start for them, especially since they have been losing the special congressional elections. It at least gives them something to build off of going into the midterms.

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Help me out here. VA and NJ governor races are important why? I’m sure each side wants a win obviously and will spin it but in reality what?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Holy shit, Virginia is a bloodbath.

This is their night. Granted, Virginia hasn't been a red state since 2004, but winning the races they should win is a good start for them, especially since they have been losing the special congressional elections. It at least gives them something to build off of going into the midterms.


Unfortunately that weasel Perez has already been on taking credit for it when he hasn't done a damn thing.


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Help me out here. VA and NJ governor races are important why? I’m sure each side wants a win obviously and will spin it but in reality what?


I'll go out on a limb and say it's because governors are important


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Help me out here. VA and NJ governor races are important why? I’m sure each side wants a win obviously and will spin it but in reality what?


I'll go out on a limb and say it's because governors are important


Yeah sure to their states. Just wondered as next year really should be the big thing.

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The Democrats will find a way to take all the wrong lessons from this.

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I take back what I said about Perez,he may have actually been useful in Virginia.


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Virginia is a relief. Possible partial blueprint for North Carolina and Texas.

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So the guy that authored the Anti-trans bathroom bill in VA lost his seat to a transgender Dem candidate after he wouldn't debate her, shake her hand, or call her "she." That's the good stuff.


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So the guy that authored the Anti-trans bathroom bill in VA lost his seat to a transgender Dem candidate after he wouldn't debate her, shake her hand, or call her "she." That's the good stuff.


Never knew that. That is kinda funny.

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Virginia is a relief. Possible partial blueprint for North Carolina and Texas.

NC, yes.

Texas, no

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Virginia is a relief. Possible partial blueprint for North Carolina and Texas.

I think the blueprint would have been the Gillespie attacks (soft on crime and anti-confederacy) had he won moreso than anything that Northam did. That is a relief.

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Virginia is a relief. Possible partial blueprint for North Carolina and Texas.

NC, yes.

Texas, no


I said partial

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Virginia is a relief. Possible partial blueprint for North Carolina and Texas.

I think the blueprint would have been the Gillespie attacks (soft on crime and anti-confederacy) had he won moreso than anything that Northam did. That is a relief.


Agreed. But the heavy turnout and success among college educated was a mild surprise

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So the guy that authored the Anti-trans bathroom bill in VA lost his seat to a transgender Dem candidate after he wouldn't debate her, shake her hand, or call her "she." That's the good stuff.

:lol: :lol: that's great

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