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Good to see. All we need are Libertarians and Republicans and everyone will be doing well.

Where do the Blacks go?

They won't be allowed to vote anymore. Look at Wisconsin.


Blaming black voters for not finding Hillary an acceptable candidate worth voting for.

Pretty bad, even by your standards.

I guess calling them super-predators really motivated them to vote



This has always been a false assertion. The urban myth associated with that particular comment has been allowed to grow with time. Fact is that she was referring to gangs and not blacks. She clearly stated that gangs functioned like superpredators.


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http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 ... redators/#


If I'm not mistaken, many of the many shootings in the city are teen gang-bangers avenging disrespectful twitter comments--with no remorse or concern for innocent bystanders, many of whom are children. She was a generation ahead of the game.

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Yep. They will shoot into a crowd at a moment's notice and they often can't shoot straight.

urban terrorism permeates many of an impoverished neighborhood and it was the case during the nineties.

I often wondered why they never clarified those remarks either. She didn't even reference blacks either. Yet it has been brazenly stated for years as if she did.

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The Democrats had a HUGE night tonight, at every level.

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Not really. The Democrats still have a long way to go. A lot of really encouraging stuff happened in Virginia and the Northeast but we still need the Democratic Party to learn the right lessons from this if they're going to keep the Republicans from getting the constitutional convention.

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Not really. The Democrats still have a long way to go. A lot of really encouraging stuff happened in Virginia and the Northeast but we still need the Democratic Party to learn the right lessons from this if they're going to keep the Republicans from getting the constitutional convention.

I'm not quite sure how to say this, but I've never seen someone as jaded and also idealistic as you when it comes to politics.

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Not really. The Democrats still have a long way to go. A lot of really encouraging stuff happened in Virginia and the Northeast but we still need the Democratic Party to learn the right lessons from this if they're going to keep the Republicans from getting the constitutional convention.


What exactly are the right lessons. You know... for the record.

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Not really. The Democrats still have a long way to go. A lot of really encouraging stuff happened in Virginia and the Northeast but we still need the Democratic Party to learn the right lessons from this if they're going to keep the Republicans from getting the constitutional convention.


What exactly are the right lessons. You know... for the record.

They absolutely must abandon the urban liberal fringe. They will not be able to win national elections or swing the center of the country if they keep pandering to them.

I'm sure they are thrilled about winning NOVA, Washington state and New Jersey. Great. Nobody is doubting democrat's ability to turn blue states bluer. But YAAAASSSSS QUEEN-ing over some tranny winning an anonymous state legislature seat hurts them where it matters. Once again they will dedicate everything to some token identity cause while ignoring actual issues. That will hurt them.

And now the GOP is awoken too. They definitely got a bit arrogant and lax after the huge win a year ago. They wont be surprised next year.

Again, I'm rooting for the GOP and Trump. Everything must be done to destroy neoliberalism.


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Again, I'm rooting for the GOP and Trump. Everything must be done to destroy neoliberalism.

These two things don't add up. Either you are rooting for the former or you believe the latter. Can't do both, amigo.

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The Republicans favor neoliberal economic policy, too, they just don't glaze it with fawning over black women and gay men doing impressions of black women like the Dems do. I think we're past the point of accelerationism; Trump was the acceleration. Now they've been set up to be knocked down.

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What exactly are the right lessons. You know... for the record.

Speak to improving voters' material conditions. Explain how Republican control has immiserated voters and explain how you will make their lives better in ways they can understand and experience. Don't bother with "Trump is rude on the internet," no one gives a fuck, talk about how people are unemployed or sick or dying or dead. Abandon the chase for "moderate Republicans" who hardly exist and mobilize people who have been too discouraged to vote. There are more of those than there are Republicans who want to vote for Diet Republicans. Guys like denisdman talk about how disgusted they are by Republicans but when the rubber hits the road, are they ever voting Democratic? No.

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Not really.


Yes, really. This was a HUGE night for a party that was just declared dead.

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Yes, really. This was a HUGE night for a party that was just declared dead.

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Yes, really. This was a HUGE night for a party that was just declared dead.

:lol:


There is no way to look at tonight's results and say this wasn't a win for the D's, despite the claims that they are dead.

A transgendered woman won a seat tonight. The Trump effect is strong.

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Yes, really. This was a HUGE night for a party that was just declared dead.

:lol:


There is no objective way to look at tonight's results and say this wasn't a win for the D's, despite the claims that they are dead.

A transgendered woman won a seat tonight. The Trump effect is strong.

Im sure it was a win. We'll see what happens in 2018 and 2020. Tonight didn't mean much long term yet.

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Not really.


Yes, really. This was a HUGE night for a party that was just declared dead.

:lol:


There is no objective way to look at tonight's results and say this wasn't a win for the D's, despite the claims that they are dead.

A transgendered woman won a seat tonight. The Trump effect is strong.

Im sure it was a win. We'll see what happens in 2018 and 2020. Tonight didn't mean much long term yet.


I'm just talking about tonight.

The Trump/Russia stuff isn't a ruse. He, and many around him, are going down. This thread is going to look really stupid in short order.

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Lot of DSA/Socialist Alternative candidates won local seats. That's pretty encouraging.

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The Trump/Russia stuff isn't a ruse. He, and many around him, are going down. This thread is going to look really stupid in short order.

Maybe, but it's still going to take more than "Drumpf bad" to rehabilitate a party that got its shit wrecked outside the White House for six years.

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The Trump/Russia stuff isn't a ruse. He, and many around him, are going down. This thread is going to look really stupid in short order.

Maybe, but it's still going to take more than "Drumpf bad" to rehabilitate a party that got its shit wrecked outside the White House for six years.


Rome wasn't built in a day.

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Yes, as a liberal it's encouraging in a sports cliche "you can only beat the teams on your schedule" kind of way. However Dems won't have the advantage of the reverse coat tails of the worst President in history forever.


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Medicaid expansion in Maine is a great sign.

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WOW what a relief! :lol:

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It's good to see a Trump style campaign may be an outlier than the new normal.


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Good to see they don't have to shut the doors this morning.

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It's good to see a Trump style campaign may be an outlier than the new normal.


You don’t understand what happened yesterday. It was a referendum on embracing trump and what will happen to republican seats that dont fully embrace trump.


At leas that’s what fox told me.


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Abandon the chase for "moderate Republicans" who hardly exist and mobilize people who have been too discouraged to vote.
You seem to live in this fantasy world where the Democrats can be more relevant by becoming the Socialist party. There are far more "moderate Republicans" than there are fringe Bernie Sanders loving Socialists who want the government to solve every issue by taking it over. I mean, Bernie Sanders literally left the Democratic party as soon as he could. But, even if that is the strategy they employ, they are going to push many Democrats over to the Republicans even as they hate Trump. If it ever does come down to a "Burn it all down" Democrat and a Republican who isn't Trump then I think the answer will be pretty clear for a large portion of the voters that matter.

If you want a Socialist party then just have a Socialist party and see how many you can convince to join up. The fantasy of wanting the Democrats to become Socialists because a terrible candidate lost to another terrible candidate ignores the reality that most people are happy enough to not want to burn it all down and don't believe candidates like Sanders who try and convince you that everything is horrible and needs to be redone.

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There seems to be a misunderstanding as to what neoliberalism is. Establishment Republicans are the biggest proponents of neoliberalism there (along with Clintonian Democrats). That word gets thrown around a lot incorrectly.

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There seems to be a misunderstanding as to what neoliberalism is. Establishment Republicans are the biggest proponents of neoliberalism there (along with Clintonian Democrats). That word gets thrown around a lot incorrectly.


Neoliberalism as I was taught means favoring the market only until it is proven that it cannot meet a need. Then and only then is limited government intervention allowed. Am I close?

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The only person Trump is embarrassing is Trump. The demise of the GOP sits on themselves. The GOP has control of the congress and they can't get anything done. they can't even get stuff TO Trump. Trump isn't destroying the GOP....the GOP is destroying the GOP.

As far as the DEMs. This was a very small victory in the grand scheme of things. They're not dead but as was mentioned, they will fail on National elections if they keep pandering to the urban liberal fringe and the ultra-left. The GOP is handing it over to the DEMs and it's like they're refusing to accept it.

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Yes, really. This was a HUGE night for a party that was just declared dead.

:lol:


There is no way to look at tonight's results and say this wasn't a win for the D's, despite the claims that they are dead.

A transgendered woman won a seat tonight. The Trump effect is strong.

Last night's win was like a being elected Dungeonmaster at a ComicCon. Proves nothing but that the same fish chose to stay in their bowl.

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From an article about last night...


5. McAuliffe 2020 starts now
The happiest person in Virginia might be Gov. Terry McAuliffe.
The long-time friend of the Clintons, fundraiser extraordinaire and former Democratic National Committee chairman wasn't taken particularly seriously as a candidate himself -- a principal, rather than a supporting player -- when he ran for governor in 2013.
Now, McAuliffe seems impossible to ignore.
Swaggering onto stage at Northam's victory party to Mark Morrison's "Return of the Mack," McAuliffe cast the election results as Virginia's rejection of discrimination. He touted his own administration's efforts to protect LGBT workers, in a message that sounded 2020-ready.
A few weeks from leaving office, McAuliffe has made clear that he hasn't run out of political ambition. He leaves Virginia as a popular Democrat with a strong economic record and a revitalized Democratic bench set to take office.


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