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As a two decade Stern listener, I have heard MANY gay men, including George Takei, speak about their sex lives. What George described sounds like par for the course. They just stuffed their ass into a pair of tight jeans, and hit the clubs. Look at video from the pride parades. They are all naked and making out with each other.

He is definitely worse than a guy who preyed on multiple children.


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There are levels. From zero to Weinstein, I have George pretty low. Louis CK is a bit higher. His actions are pretty fucked up, but not criminal. Spacey a bit higher than CK. I'm sure we will hear more about him. Roy Moore is higher than Spacey. Children, bruh, and the fake Christian shit move him up. Weinstein is an absolute monster.

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Especially the pride parade kind.


Who cares about pride parades? They are easy to avoid, if desired. It is entirely possible for you to see exactly zero images from such parades.

Its crazy to me you have CK over Takei in the fucked up perv olynpics. One was assault one was not.

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It's all degeneracy.


There are levels. From zero to Weinstein, I have George pretty low. Louis CK is a bit higher. His actions are pretty fucked up, but not criminal. Spacey a bit higher than CK. I'm sure we will hear more about him. Roy Moore is higher than Spacey. Children, bruh, and the fake Christian shit move him up. Weinstein is an absolute monster.

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Especially the pride parade kind.


Who cares about pride parades? They are easy to avoid, if desired. It is entirely possible for you to see exactly zero images from such parades.

Its crazy to me you have CK over Takei in the fucked up perv olynpics. One was assault one was not.


I agree that what Louis did wasn’t nearly as detestable as some of the others (it’s not sexual assault), but I think some struggle with it because it’s so bizarre. I understand that’s not fair, but you have to admit it’s really weird and is hard to rank on the sexual deviant hierarchy. Personally, it’s even weirder because I always viewed him as a very normal, well-adjusted person.

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Pride parades are barely even gay anymore.

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It's all degeneracy.


There are levels. From zero to Weinstein, I have George pretty low. Louis CK is a bit higher. His actions are pretty fucked up, but not criminal. Spacey a bit higher than CK. I'm sure we will hear more about him. Roy Moore is higher than Spacey. Children, bruh, and the fake Christian shit move him up. Weinstein is an absolute monster.

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Especially the pride parade kind.


Who cares about pride parades? They are easy to avoid, if desired. It is entirely possible for you to see exactly zero images from such parades.

Its crazy to me you have CK over Takei in the fucked up perv olynpics. One was assault one was not.



I agree that what Louis did wasn’t nearly as detestable as some of the others (it’s not sexual assault), but I think some struggle with it because it’s so bizarre. I understand that’s not fair, but you have to admit it’s really weird and is hard to rank on the sexual deviant hierarchy. Personally, it’s even weirder because I always viewed him as a very normal, well-adjusted person.

I'm realizing more by the day how prude I really am. Yeah, I find CK's behavior very bizarre, but I find all this shit bizarre and creepy. I know gay and straight people might find what's acceptable to be a bit different, but I can't imagine just going down on some chick who's passed out at my place. I have to think that's worse than jacking off in front of her after telling her I'm going to.

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
It's all degeneracy.


There are levels. From zero to Weinstein, I have George pretty low. Louis CK is a bit higher. His actions are pretty fucked up, but not criminal. Spacey a bit higher than CK. I'm sure we will hear more about him. Roy Moore is higher than Spacey. Children, bruh, and the fake Christian shit move him up. Weinstein is an absolute monster.

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Especially the pride parade kind.


Who cares about pride parades? They are easy to avoid, if desired. It is entirely possible for you to see exactly zero images from such parades.

Its crazy to me you have CK over Takei in the fucked up perv olynpics. One was assault one was not.


I need to hear George address the allegations, and I will re-rank if necessary. CK gets the higher rank just for the sheer numbers. It appears that this was a lot of people over a lot of years.

The scale isn't perfect. It's like the BCS. It needs some tinkering.

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Yeah, but it’s called being a mature adult. These behaviors should sicken you. My reservation about Takei is that the source just seems incredibly opportunistic and also sounds like he was playing the game with Takei too. We’ll never know.

I’ll go all Pat Robertson here and say that I have at least thought about how this promiscuous sexual culture that condones what most would call “anti-social” behaviors (at best) might be some of the fuel behind these things. I’m not saying it’s true, and there are certainly some weirdos in middle America, too, but there is a clear theme in Hollywood that probably warrants some discussion around all the potential contributing factors.

Maybe the Cleavers had it right.

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Pride parades are barely even gay anymore.


Yeah they've moved on to pedophilia
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Pride parades are barely even gay anymore.

Yeah they've moved on to pedophilia


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Now poor Hope Solo is crying that her ass got grabbed. Wow, hope she can overcome this trauma...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

Hope Solo told a Portuguese newspaper that former FIFA President Sepp Blatter sexually assaulted her at the Ballon d'Or awards ceremony in 2013.

In an interview published Friday in the newspaper Expresso, Solo said Blatter grabbed her rear end shortly before the two appeared onstage at the annual soccer awards event.

A representative for Solo confirmed Friday to The Associated Press that the report was accurate and said the former goalkeeper for the U.S. women's national team had no further comment on the matter.

Blatter could not immediately be reached for comment by the AP, but the embattled former head of soccer's governing body told the Guardian newspaper: "This allegation is ridiculous."

Solo has been dogged by a number of off-the-field controversies. Notably, a domestic violence case stemming from a 2014 altercation at a family member's home in Washington state.

Solo anchored the U.S. team in goal during its 2015 Women's World Cup championship run, allowing just three goals in seven games with five shutouts during the tournament.

For her career, Solo has made 202 total appearances with the national team, with 153 wins and an international-record 102 shutouts.

Solo's tenure with the national team ended following last year's Olympics in Brazil, when the Americans were ousted by Sweden in the quarterfinals. Afterward, Solo called the Swedish team "cowards" for their defensive style of play.
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Then-FIFA president Sepp Blatter holds a press conference in Zurich on March 20, 2015. (Michael Buholzer / AFP/Getty Images)

She was suspended from the team shortly thereafter and has not returned.

Blatter was suspended from office and banned from soccer for six years following allegations of a widespread corruption scandal that came to light in 2015. Both U.S. and Swiss officials cooperated in the investigation, which is ongoing, and more than 40 people have been indicted.

Blatter has also had a history of what many consider to be sexist behavior concerning the women's game.

U.S. forward Alex Morgan has said that Blatter failed to recognize her at the annual award event in 2012, even though she was one of three nominees for the women's Player of the Year.

Blatter also famously argued in 2004 that players could boost the popularity of the women's game by wearing tighter shorts.


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George proclaiming his innocence.

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On Saturday morning, Takei posted a series of statements on Twitter in which he denied knowing Brunton and said he was “shocked and bewildered” by the allegation.

“The events he describes back in the 1980s simply did not occur,” Takei wrote, “and I do not know why he has claimed them now. I have wracked [sic] my brain to ask if I remember Mr Brunton, and I cannot say I do.”


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George proclaiming his innocence.

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On Saturday morning, Takei posted a series of statements on Twitter in which he denied knowing Brunton and said he was “shocked and bewildered” by the allegation.

“The events he describes back in the 1980s simply did not occur,” Takei wrote, “and I do not know why he has claimed them now. I have wracked [sic] my brain to ask if I remember Mr Brunton, and I cannot say I do.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... oung-actor

HuffPo says it's complicated. :lol:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a07 ... mg00000063

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Now poor Hope Solo is crying that her ass got grabbed. Wow, hope she can overcome this trauma...

She called that an assault? As 312 would say.....smh


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I don't recall that line in the Mr. Ed theme.

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George proclaiming his innocence.

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On Saturday morning, Takei posted a series of statements on Twitter in which he denied knowing Brunton and said he was “shocked and bewildered” by the allegation.

“The events he describes back in the 1980s simply did not occur,” Takei wrote, “and I do not know why he has claimed them now. I have wracked [sic] my brain to ask if I remember Mr Brunton, and I cannot say I do.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... oung-actor

HuffPo says it's complicated. :lol:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a07 ... mg00000063


Well, that just makes me wonder if that guy was listening to Stern last month.

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Sepp Blatter is possibly the most corrupt dude in the world, I wouldn't put anything past him.


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George proclaiming his innocence.

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On Saturday morning, Takei posted a series of statements on Twitter in which he denied knowing Brunton and said he was “shocked and bewildered” by the allegation.

“The events he describes back in the 1980s simply did not occur,” Takei wrote, “and I do not know why he has claimed them now. I have wracked [sic] my brain to ask if I remember Mr Brunton, and I cannot say I do.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... oung-actor

HuffPo says it's complicated. :lol:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a07 ... mg00000063


This is where it really does get complicated, though. Takei presumably wasn’t using his stature to overpower them into it. If he was, that’s different.

When people have consensual sex, doesn’t it usually start with someone making the first move? If we hold people to the standards that they can never take a chance with a physical “move,” how the hell are sexual relations sussposed to work?

I’m just glad I’m married and don’t have to navigate these waters. If you get a bad read on someone else, it could wind up with very serious consequences nowadays... even if you stop the minute you realize they’re not interested.

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This is where it really does get complicated, though. Takei presumably wasn’t using his stature to overpower them into it. If he was, that’s different.


I have no reason to not believe him that he didn't use sex as a power play. It's not like he is a big shooter in Hollywood anyway. What was he going to do, get free tickets to Comic Con?

His statement is a pretty clear denial. No hemming and hawing like Spacey and Roy Moore.

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When people have consensual sex, doesn’t it usually start with someone making the first move? If we hold people to the standards that they can never take a chance with a physical “move,” how the hell are sexual relations sussposed to work?


Like I learned on Stern, gay men usually move pretty quickly with this stuff.

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I’m just glad I’m married and don’t have to navigate these waters. If you get a bad read on someone else, it could wind up with very serious consequences nowadays... even if you stop the minute you realize they’re not interested.


No shit. Dating seems like a huge pain in the ass. It's right here when I want it. I usually get the green light.

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leashyourkids wrote:
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George proclaiming his innocence.

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On Saturday morning, Takei posted a series of statements on Twitter in which he denied knowing Brunton and said he was “shocked and bewildered” by the allegation.

“The events he describes back in the 1980s simply did not occur,” Takei wrote, “and I do not know why he has claimed them now. I have wracked [sic] my brain to ask if I remember Mr Brunton, and I cannot say I do.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... oung-actor

HuffPo says it's complicated. :lol:

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a07 ... mg00000063


This is where it really does get complicated, though. Takei presumably wasn’t using his stature to overpower them into it. If he was, that’s different.

When people have consensual sex, doesn’t it usually start with someone making the first move? If we hold people to the standards that they can never take a chance with a physical “move,” how the hell are sexual relations sussposed to work?

I’m just glad I’m married and don’t have to navigate these waters. If you get a bad read on someone else, it could wind up with very serious consequences nowadays... even if you stop the minute you realize they’re not interested.

Doesn't seem all that complicated to me, we just don't know if the accuser is telling the truth. If he is, it's textbook assault. You can't "make a move" on an unconscious person :lol:

Like with most things like this, I'm guessing it goes away if there isn't more stories to come.

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Speaking of gay parades what is the point? It has always been my thought that the end goal of most gay people was to be what they were and accepted in society. Like hi here I am your next door neighbor all cool. Isn’t it weird to have the Mardi Gras type weird parade every year to show they are weirdo dress up people?

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Speaking of gay parades what is the point? It has always been my thought that the end goal of most gay people was to be what they were and accepted in society. Like hi here I am your next door neighbor all cool. Isn’t it weird to have the Mardi Gras type weird parade every year to show they are weirdo dress up people?


I went a couple times in the mid/late '90s. Nice crowd. Got invited to a few parties.

They looked like they were having quite a bit of harmless fun.

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that the end goal of most gay people was to be what they were and accepted in society. Like hi here I am your next door neighbor all cool.


That's because that isn't the end goal of the gay agenda

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that the end goal of most gay people was to be what they were and accepted in society. Like hi here I am your next door neighbor all cool.


That's because that isn't the end goal of the gay agenda

go on...

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that the end goal of most gay people was to be what they were and accepted in society. Like hi here I am your next door neighbor all cool.


That's because that isn't the end goal of the gay agenda

go on...



If you can't see where celebrating "fierce" 8 year old drag queens and telling confused 13 year olds that the answer is to cut their dick off is leading....

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Lately it seems being gay is a pretty good deal. Sometimes you can say oh I’m gay and enjoy a parade and be in a governmentally protected class. Have cool parades and otherwise act the fool. Then when it fits just act same as everyone else and be under cover.

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Lately it seems being gay is a pretty good deal. Sometimes you can say oh I’m gay and enjoy a parade and be in a governmentally protected class. Have cool parades and otherwise act the fool. Then when it fits just act same as everyone else and be under cover.

www.chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=109456

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Lately it seems being gay is a pretty good deal. Sometimes you can say oh I’m gay and enjoy a parade and be in a governmentally protected class. Have cool parades and otherwise act the fool. Then when it fits just act same as everyone else and be under cover.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=109456

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