"These stories are true" is a denial? Hot take

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This take, modern liberal feminism in 2017:

https://twitter.com/KateHarding/status/ ... 6609357824

Democracy 2017: I am sincerely arguing that we should not force a Democrat to resign for sexually abusing a woman, because I know Republicans never will, and that once the first Democrat goes, R's next move is finding shady Ds from states with R governors.

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Im just joking but didn't he immediately follow that with saying that he always asked and none of them said no?

It would be like if I said you ate people's lunches at work.

And you say

These stories are true, but I always asked them if I could have their lunches first.

He did. I don't think that was him minimizing what happened as much as it was him clarifying. He pretty much had to include that in order for him to say he learned later that being more famous and powerful means their consent wasn't what consent normally is, etc.

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Sure, and if they said yes it makes me a jerk, not a criminal.

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I am just glad to see it only took until two pages in to get to the craven what about Trump comments to deflect for poor Al.

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Do you believe the women accusing POTUS are liars?


If you think Franken should be investigated, resign etc, you're sort of locked in to that same thought on Trump.

I agree Al, it’s far too common .

The women who have shared their stories about Harvey Weinstein over the last few days are incredibly brave. It takes a lot of courage to come forward, and we owe them our thanks.

And as we hear more and more about Mr. Weinstein, it’s important to remember that while his behavior was appalling, it’s far too common.

That’s what Gretchen Carlson addresses in a New York Times op-ed she authored. In it, she says, “When I filed my sexual harassment lawsuit against Fox News’s chairman and chief executive, Roger Ailes, in July 2016, I felt alone. But after I told my story, thousands of women — police officers, teachers, oil-rig operators, sports executives, military officers, engineers, waitresses, lawyers, secretaries — told me theirs.

As I’ve listened to their experiences, I’ve realized that the disappointing responses women often face when they go public both embolden harassers and encourage victims to stay silent.”

We must do something to address this all-too-common problem. And one thing we can do—which Gretchen has become a bold advocate for—is reforming arbitration laws, which prevent people who experience workplace harassment from going to court. Instead, they are forced into arbitration, a process that heavily favors the employer, often denying them justice after they’ve been harassed at work. That’s why I’ve been working to pass the Arbitration Fairness Act—so that people in the workplace wouldn’t have to sign away their rights to have their day in court when they take a job.

This is only one part of the solution, and it’s unclear what, if any, role arbitration clauses played in Mr. Weinstein’s case. But it’s critical that we address this issue. Gretchen Carlson ends her piece with this: “I’m hopeful that the Weinstein story will represent the start of a sea change in our society’s treatment of sexually harassed workers. By ending arbitration clauses, blacklisting and workplace cultures where abuse thrives, we can ensure that victims of harassment speak out. I encourage victims to stand up and tell their stories, which I know requires immense bravery. And I’m hopeful that we’ll see changes in our laws and our culture that will allow them to do so without being victimized yet again.” I couldn’t agree more.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Fuck this creep. Doesn't surprise me - he looks like a pedo.

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Jesus Christ.

Interesting how he brought up the intentions vs. impact duality.....lots of grey area in life, but especially art (and comedy) when it comes to intentions vs. impact.

Boom! I called it! (Ogie is my mult)

If you have a big D after your name or you're gay a sorry is all you need.

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That's not true at all.

Who has said it's ok now?


Almost everyone on the left is criticizing him. Unlike the other side, who used Joseph and Mary to say that Roy Moore as all good.

Eh, to be fair, most of the mainstream right did criticize Moore. Some wacky people like Hannity and other "Christian" righties don't constitute everyone on the right. A lot of liberals over on Jezebel and other liberal rags are saying Franken's accusers should not be trusted because she is a Hannity bot, etc. That doesn't mean most of the mainstream left isn't attacking him.

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Who knew a guy named Toxic Masculinity would distort the truth?

For shame, sir!

FOR SHAME!

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I can’t think of a single poster here that defended Moore in any way shape or form.

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I can't feel shame anymore.

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Some of the Republicans in here are quite the snowflakes.

Franklin took an inappropriate picture and Moore had sex with 14 year olds, right? Stop with the constant victim complex.

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If we're going by just this board, no one has defended Franklin either.

TM was clearly talking about people outside of this board.

I was just trying to meet Toxic's level of crazy.

Of course most people on both sides know all this shit is wrong.

But, MANY try to play team politics with it.

Asking Mitch McConnell to hold Trump (19 accusations) to the same standard as Franken (1, at the time) is trying to deflect away from Al?

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He did more than that though. Franken groped a girl who was asleep. He also wrote a "skit" in which he was to kiss her, harassed her into repeatedly rehearsing the kiss scene, then jammed his tongue down her throat. She had to shove him away from her.

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Yeah, I just read that part after I posted.

Still some cry babies with imaginations in here.

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Name names or gtfo

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Thank you. I'm talking about the Jezebel and Roots of the world.

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I heard Franklin forced Marcie to eat out Peppermint Patty while he jerked it.

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Toxic Masculinity and Mike. I dgaf.

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Both made solid points here.

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I don't think the throw-in line about always asking was meant to shield him from criminal charges, I think it was in the hopes that they MIGHT shield him from civil action.

Outside of a few select areas (children, elderly, handicapped, etc.) and professions (healthcare provider, law enforcement, etc.) the law treats consent as consent, no matter the fame of either party.