Dropped the kids off at school and my wife and I went to a 9:15 showing.

Without spoiling anything, I thought it was good and went in a different direction then I thought it was going to go and I wonder how this 'trilogy' will end in the next movie.

Spoiler: I can't believe that Snoake is Jarjar.

(also, if you haven't read the approved cannon books that take place after ROTJ, I LOVE that Jar Jar becomes a homeless street performer- a great Fuck You to Lucas).

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Good movie ,Great pace and performances especially by the male extended cameo. Th female one was meh.
The trailer for Infinity war was interesting.

Only one let down was Finns fight scene.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I'm not really sure what I just saw.

I don't think it's out of order to 'reveal' that there is no shortage of comedy bits. I have no direct quarrel with anything that happened, or didn't happen ... I just don't feel certain I know ultimately where it's going to go, which is unusual as, ultimately, each third movie you pretty much knew.

I guess I'm more perplexed ... it'll make sense soon enough I presume. Just some odd left turns that I felt might have been there as much, if not moreso, for the sake of having them occur.

If I weren't poor I'd plan to see it another time or two. Maybe I'm over-analyzing it.

It may not read like it, but I would say definitely go see it. It just felt very different than the previous seven. Probably good long-term.

Oh shit, and I don't know what Aunt Beru's blue milk was or where it came from, but you can fucking keep the green milk.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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My thought on what may confusing, is what I mentioned initially. It just doesn't give a shit about The Force Awakens. Here's it's SPOILER FREE take on the events of TFA:



It doesn't make TLJ bad by any means, it's just like Rian was like "Fuck JJ's shit."

I'm disappointed. I expected more and got....a movie. It had Star Wars characters but it wasn't a Star Wars movie. KD hit the nail on the head, it was a sequel only in the sense that the same characters were in the film.

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Does Rey accuse Luke of sexually harassing her during her training?

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

I think I figured it out ... meaning I think I figured out why a perfectly fine movie didn't sit as well as I expected it would.

This is the 8th (well, 9th ... Rogue One was as much a part of this saga as anything) .... anyway, this is the 8th/9th Star Wars movie.

However, this is the very first one that wasn't made for me.

Of course I don't mean 'me' me ... you understand what I mean.

For nearly 40 years, from 1977 until 2016, every Star Wars movie was made for me ... if it wasn't chiefly about my characters - Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Obi-Wan, R2, 3PO, Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Yoda - then it was about getting to the point wherein they entered the forefront of galactic legend ... even #7, which was an injection of (necessary) new blood, was only done so with a very obvious and very comforting familiar template.

This time it was jarring ... familiar faces old and new, but this was an entirely different storytelling paradigm. The comedy bits -- I mean, a sarcastic and smart-ass Luke during the first lesson ... ... but by the time it was over, though I didn't realize it until a bit ago, it wasn't my story anymore, at least not chiefly. This movie was made to slough off more old in favor of the new --- which is great, which is necessary, which is fine.

I suspect if you have fairly young kids, and either the previous one or this one is their first Star Wars movie, they probably won't mention Luke or Leia much, if at all, when they want to talk about the movie ... Rey and Kylo are the main characters and they're the only main characters they've ever 'known', and thus will only recognize them as such. Sure, you can walk them back through the other movies, but while they very well may appreciate who these (to them) ancillary characters are, they're just all second-fiddle to their characters.

I think next time I see it, whenever it is, knowing what's going to happen and knowing what it was that made this feel 'odd' to me, I'll be able to start to appreciate it much better for what it was and what 7/8/9 are/will be - the (now) unmistakable, and inevitable, passing of the torch(es) by my characters to the younger folks' characters.

Now, a tip for those that haven't seen it yet .... if you need a cue as to when the best time to go to the restroom is w/out missing anything terribly important or inneresting, when Finn arrives on the casino planet, you've got a few minutes to duck out.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I've had some time to reflect and basically Don said it better than I ever could (what a surprise ). Star Wars has moved on and I wasn't ready to yet. Maybe that's why I didn't enjoy it as much as I'd hoped.

The plot issues are still the plot issues though. No getting around the idiotic premise of the whole film.

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That a fair assessment Don. Some of the comedic stuff seemed odd to me. For all of my friends who complained that Rogue One wasn't like a star wars movie (from the opening to the music) I felt this one was very much different for me. My kids run from 8-14 and they talk about the old characters a lot. Very sad when Han died and my daughter remarked last night as I took her to town to see it with her friends that if they killed Chewie the series was dead to her. I'll be seeing it again in a the next few days with my kids, hopefully in one of the old time theaters out here instead of the giant ones, Ill try to watch that with DT's thoughts in mind.


After watching the movie and the previews I do know that I will be avoiding "The Quiet Place" as that seemed creepy as hell.

Not a Star Wars guy and have not seen it. Probably will at some point. But it seems like from watching Social media that people either think it is the greatest movie of the bunch or complete trash. Not much middle ground.

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Yeah.. I'm not seeing the greatest Star Wars movie ever angle on this that I've seen. No. Just..no. Now maybe to a film biff but at times to me it seemed disjointed. There were parts I really liked and others I rolled my eyes at. Id be pretty middle of the road on this but I avoid the twitters.

Princess Leia sure was hot in the Return on the Jedi

DT nailed it. I saw it early this morning, and liked it, but something was just off. It bothered me when we found out who Rey's parents are, and his post tells me why it did.

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My daughter really liked it and it was due to the increased emphasis on newer characters (mostly Poe and Rey). I’m old.

Remember when Ben told Luke that Vader killed his father? Just because Kylo said her parents were nobodies doesn't mean he was telling the truth. I mean it doesn't mean he wasn't of course, but they've got a whole 'nother movie to fuck with things. If you go back an watch TFA and watch how the cast reacts to Rey, they all weirdly (except Finn) talk to her like they know her. It's entirely possible JJ directed them to do that or the actors figured she was the main character and treated her like that subconsciously, but there's still room for fuckery.

The good outweighed the bad for me.

But the bad was bad.

Really enjoyed the Luke-Rey-Ren-Snoke stuff. Nice cameos too.

Didn't really care about the Resistance stuff. All felt forced and dumb. Characters were morons.

Wonder how it will end in Epidsde IX.

I popped for the porg-Chewbacca stuff. Maybe because my son laughed his ass off at it. Or maybe not. It got me though.

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Vader was a nobody too. I think I'd like it if Rey is too.

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Rey's parents being nobody important has been a theme since TFA, but it still could be a misdirection to manipulate her.

Snoke dying was a little disappointing, but I can see why Kylo Ren killed him after the force lighting incident.

Seeing Luke face off with the First Order as a force projection on Crait was really well done, and I think he didn't die but has become the force and will be a big presence in episode 9.

It certainly could be a mis-direction, but between that and the kid with the broom at the end (using the force to pick it up) to me was the break from the past movies. Basically said don't need to be a Skywalker to be a Jedi, putting that story arch to rest for the most part. TFA and Rogue One were the throwback movies for the old fans, and this was the bridge to something new. Disney ain't making movies for 45 year old men.

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Dood - spoiler that shit. Not cool.

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Yes, but Vader was immaculately conceived.
I still like the subversive idea of Rey being the illegitimate (?) granddaughter of Obi Wan and Padme.

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as subversive as royalty

I enjoyed it for the fun / entertainment factor. Also saw it w/ the guys at work and the theather crowd was pretty rowdy so it made it more fun.

The middle was really too long and boring. They could have editted out a lot of the middle parts.

The ending I still don't know about. I guess like someone said it's time for new characters and no longer the old ones.

Some parts were like watching The Orville with the side jokes.

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I'm not sure where the last movie will go now since the big bad guy is dead. Kylo Ren does not really sell me as a bad ass like Vader or the Emperor.

Yoda's appearance was awesome but cheap. I didnt mind it and the whole theater when nuts when he showed up.

I agree the side characters sort of sucked. Finn's role diminished greatly compared to the first movie. I thought he was one of the centerpieces of this trilogy. Maybe he comes back big next movie. Rose was ok, Poe like Finn could have had a bigger role.

That planet that was like Vegas I did not like. It reminded me of the late 90's movies which sucked due to the CGI and disney like story.

It was good. I liked it. I dont know what I'll think in say 5-10 years.

Disappointing for me, partly because I thought the music was lacking. No new musical themes that I could notice, and the Force Theme was severely overused. Maybe age has finally caught up to John Williams.

I enjoyed parts of the movie, but it just didn't connect.

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Decent film, it told a new story, and most importantly to me really made the Force what it was meant to be in ANH. It pretty much retconned the bullshit about the Force we are fed in the awful prequels. You know, the awful "M" word.

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Hawaii - The big bad guy is not dead ... the big bad guy killed that guy you/we presumed was the big bad guy.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

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I didnt like the Leia scene where she flys in like superman or some superhero. They should have just killed her off since she really didnt do much for the rest of the movie. I guess they needed her to make that sacrifice at the end.

btw...one thing I had liked about SW movies were the new faces. They never used known hollywood actors. I noticed a lot of hollywood faces in these last 2 films. I didnt like Laura Dern at all. She is not SW material. And the Del Toro guy was passable since his career is pretty much dead so he looked like a new face.

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Was the mirror scene with Rey supposed to give us a clue that one of the Jedi/Sith powers is the ability to project an image remotely (as Luke did at the end)?

I suppose that could be an advanced version of the ability that Snoke and the Emperor had that enabled them to project their hologram, but I had always assumed there was some device they were using for that (similar to when the Jedi council would meet and some would be holograms).

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Saw it yesterday afternoon and it was fine. I have kind of tapered my expectations for the "main" trilogy. There were parts I didn't
really care for all that much and I thought at almost 2-1/2 hours it was a tad too long but overall I was entertained and they have
set it up for the story to go in any number of directions. Based on how much I enjoyed Rogue One I think I actually look forward to
the Star Wars Story movies more. The new Han Solo movie can't come soon enough for me. Thankfully it is coming in late May and
not the holiday season. Very interested to see what Ron Howard does with the Solo story, plus I love me some Chewie and we should
see plenty of him in that film.

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