I don't know if Gmo is bad or not, i don't think we'll know for another 10 or so years. I do know Monsanto might be the most despicable corporation on the planet, they were the pioneers of gmo.

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Arguing against GMO's is as foolish as arguing against Global Warming or vaccines as both are backed by science and have the same general consensus amongst the scientists in the given fields.

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You're right. No Nobel laureate would ever work to produce a product that was not good for humanity. God bless those saints . . .

Well, who is paying them?

And exactly who is endowing the positions and facilities they're postulating from

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universities, I think I answered this, when I say "public institutions" I'm very clearly referring to universities

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I heard this exact response 10 years ago. It's not changing brother.

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Obama is a Nobel laureate in peace, so...

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I'm still not hearing any type of good counterargument. Is there one?

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Wealthy alumni in most cases

Seriously, you're not creating a real argument here, you're just running like a conspiracy theorist here with no data to back up the point.

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To be clear, I'm not arguing against them as much as I'm asserting my distrust of the companies that claim they're completely safe.

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I don't think it's companies you distrust. It's the scientific community.

As Ogie said, it's no different than denying global warming.

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Then don't look to the companies for the answer. Look to the university employed scientists who perform the research, follow the scientific method, and then draw their conclusion from provable and reproducible laboratory results. Reproducible is the key word here as a scientist who is fudging numbers and data will not have his work accurately reproduced.

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Monsanto was most definitely not the pioneer of GMOs

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I can't bring myself to eat a Tyson product, nor unquestionably accept the findings of the professors from the endowed chairs they sit in at old State U. Inc.

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It's because you don't have an argument, at least in terms of the environment. You admitted that you didn't know much about GMOs and their effects on the environment. I don't think the question is settled one way or the other, though. GMOs require fewer pesticides, but farming companies tend to use more herbicides, which appears to be hurting many species. And if Monsanto is pushing it . . . we really need to be sure about this. Their track record is pretty damn bad.

And yes, to whomever wrote the article, I want to hurt hungry people in Africa and India. I'm selfish and immoral. Seriously, who finished writing that article--the author's third-grade daughter? If we are cool with GMOs, are we gonna get extra points for Paradiso? More presents from Santa? What the Christ...

Oil companies endow plenty of universities, I don't think that has stopped 97% of scientists (most of whom work at universities) from saying that fossil fuels are bad for the environment. Your argument is invalid.

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No, I don't trust multinational corporations and their paid shills like that clown Mitch Daniels

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"wealthy alumni"

no, we need actual names.

Provide a consensus of peer reviewed study showing that GMO's are unsafe. Surely there are some noble scientists out there who believe in science and can't be bought. Then I'll listen to this argument.

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Mitch Daniels is a scientist?

Public universities are all state run so it is public record, go google it...

You're a teacher right? I can certainly tell it isn't in a scientific field, but perhaps ask some of the science faculty at your school if GMO's are safe. I think you'll get your answer, unless Monsanto paid them off too

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I don't quite understand this response.

To the first part... of course I admitted I don't know much about GMOs. Nobody in this thread does. We all just read what experts in the field have to say and make our own determinations. I'm good with trusting the scientific community though. You're gonna need a better response if you aren't.

To the second part.. Not sure how to respond to that. The author made his thesis crystal clear.

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You sure about that?

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Well when they also pay for the party currently in power to completely convince a third of the electorate to ignore the science, does it really matter?

Having lived through the b.s. arguments from tobacco companies, the parallels are striking and unsettling. Simple enough?

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Did anyone say he was?

The scientific concesus is that GMO's are not harmful. Do you disagree with that? If so, I would advise searching Google as it will probably save us both time here. Not trying to be condescending or a dick but as the author said, the science is emphatic.

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Yes, of course.

Look up GMOs and then Monsanto. Look at the timeline. Not much else you need there.

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Simple? Yes. Enough? No.

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1) Well, I know a little about it.

2) I'm saying the author is full of shit. He doesn't give a shit about people in Africa. It's a childish argument he's using. I know he doesn't give a shit because I know what the guy has voted for. Bad faith. He does not come across as very trustworthy or as expert.

GMO has been going on for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. Cross breeding crops isn't new.

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