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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:11 am 
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So the new head coach must have Vic as his Defensive coordinator?

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So the new head coach must have Vic as his Defensive coordinator?

Pace was compelled to hire Fox. New coach compelled to hire Fangio. It has to work eventually.

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So the new head coach must have Vic as his Defensive coordinator?

No, more like "Vic is not the reason Fox got fired, so if you want to keep him and he wants to stay, fine by us."

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The Bears recently sat down with Vic for an interview -hard for me to imagine that a litany of things weren't discussed during that process, including this. In other words, we don't know if this is just petty incompetence on the Bears end, or an already discussed -and agreed upon- course of action.


That aside, I'm not sure I like the idea of forcing a coaching staff on an incoming HC, it limits your options. The only team I can recall it working for recently has been the Steelers (I think Dick LeBeau was initially retained when Tomlin got the position and they won an SB together). I also don't like that this seems to indicate that the Bears have tunnel vision in selecting an HC and aren't truly open to finding the best coach possible.


Once again we're left to question the Bears on a process because they can't seem to ever go about doing anything in a smooth, deliberate, transitional -and at least from the outside looking in- professional manner.

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I am not sure it will be forced. But if a candidate does not already have a DC on the line why not suggest Fangio?

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So the new head coach must have Vic as his Defensive coordinator?

No, more like "Vic is not the reason Fox got fired, so if you want to keep him and he wants to stay, fine by us."


Yes

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I am not sure it will be forced. But if a candidate does not already have a DC on the line why not suggest Fangio?




Its one thing if you find 'your' guy, and he says to you 'hey, do you mind if I interview Vic for the DC position, I really like him?' Its another thing entirely to say 'Hey, we really like Vic Fangio, we want you to retain him as your DC if we hire you'.

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You aren't committed to finding the best Head Coach if you are forcing a defensive coordinator on that new coach, you're only committed to finding the best offensive coach when you do something like this. Now it might still work out (I pointed out Tomlin and DL in an earlier post), but overall I think its a mistake to do it this way.


Find the guy you really believe is the best coach -not the best offensive or defensive coach- the best coach. Then let him tell you who he likes and who he wants to bring in.

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I am not sure it will be forced. But if a candidate does not already have a DC on the line why not suggest Fangio?




Its one thing if you find 'your' guy, and he says to you 'hey, do you mind if I interview Vic for the DC position, I really like him?' Its another thing entirely to say 'Hey, we really like Vic Fangio, we want you to retain him as your DC if we hire you'.


We will see but again my gut is it’s not forced.

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I am not sure it will be forced. But if a candidate does not already have a DC on the line why not suggest Fangio?




Its one thing if you find 'your' guy, and he says to you 'hey, do you mind if I interview Vic for the DC position, I really like him?' Its another thing entirely to say 'Hey, we really like Vic Fangio, we want you to retain him as your DC if we hire you'.


We will see but again my gut is it’s not forced.


Sounds like it is suggested.

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pittmike wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
I am not sure it will be forced. But if a candidate does not already have a DC on the line why not suggest Fangio?




Its one thing if you find 'your' guy, and he says to you 'hey, do you mind if I interview Vic for the DC position, I really like him?' Its another thing entirely to say 'Hey, we really like Vic Fangio, we want you to retain him as your DC if we hire you'.


We will see but again my gut is it’s not forced.




If that's true, and its DeFillipo that actually wants Vic, then I'm ok with that. I just don't think thats the reality of the situation. And given this front offices track record of ham fisting just about anything, they do not get my benefit of the doubt here.

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Not sure why Fangio would have wanted the Bengals DC job anyways. Marvin Lewis is a defensive guy so he would be coaching behind his shadow and they also have a 4-3 in place so I can't imagine them changing it anytime soon.

If the Packers do offer Fangio their DC job, that will a very attractive I imagine. Assuming Rodgers comes back 100% there is zero pressure. You don't even have to make the defense top 10, just middle of the pack and they win 11-12 games.


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Not sure why Fangio would have wanted the Bengals DC job anyways. Marvin Lewis is a defensive guy so he would be coaching behind his shadow and they also have a 4-3 in place so I can't imagine them changing it anytime soon.

If the Packers do offer Fangio their DC job, that will a very attractive I imagine. Assuming Rodgers comes back 100% there is zero pressure. You don't even have to make the defense top 10, just middle of the pack and they win 11-12 games.


Their coach is in the last year of his contract.

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Caller Bob wrote:
Not sure why Fangio would have wanted the Bengals DC job anyways. Marvin Lewis is a defensive guy so he would be coaching behind his shadow and they also have a 4-3 in place so I can't imagine them changing it anytime soon.

If the Packers do offer Fangio their DC job, that will a very attractive I imagine. Assuming Rodgers comes back 100% there is zero pressure. You don't even have to make the defense top 10, just middle of the pack and they win 11-12 games.


Their coach is in the last year of his contract.


As long as Rodgers can still play, McCarthy is going nowhere.


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#Bears denied permission for #Bengals to talk to Vic Fangio but he'll be free to talk to teams soon.


Turned on the Score around 10:00 last night.

Julie DiCaro totally agrees with you. So you have that going for you.

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