but was Rex Ryan calling the defensive plays

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Either way, sounds like both the Bears and Packers come out of this with good D-coordinators.


I'm happy if Vic stays put.

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He seems like a rugged individualist...like he'd hate anyone who liked him too much. Also, the market has told him that DC will be his highest position.

I think he is a good DC and am happy to have him continue. I don't think it would have doomed anything if he wasn't retained as long as they hired a competent replacement.

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Never said he was bad.

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I went to a game as a young kid. It was sub 10 degrees so my dad must have gotten great seats from someone who didn't want to go. I was at about the 50 and no more than 10 rows up on the Bear sideline so I could see and hear everything. At a point in the game someone in the crowd threw a shoe and hit Noah in the helmet. He was looking in the crowd and swearing. I only remember thinking how that guy survived the weather without a shoe.

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The person who benefits most from his return is Floyd.

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Considering the defenses Rex Ryan had since Pettine left.... unlikely.

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Fangio is overrated.

It's easy to have a great defense when you have great players. Fangio has proven he can have an above average to great defense with no great players.

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Shouldn't there have been an announcement by now? Are there even any DC jobs remaining? Is he telling the Bears to fuck off? Is his salary going to be an issue in relation to the rookie coach's?

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Patrick Willis is a HOF caliber LB and Bowman not much worse. He had Whitner, Aldon Smith, Ray McDonald (eek) and Justin Smith too.

On the Bears he's been bumslayer extraordinaire for one season and dogshit the rest of the time. No Bears defenders are really developing under Fangio. Certainly no Bears defender has taken the next step to becoming an all pro or even pro bowl caliber player through Fangio's entire three year tenure on the Bears. Plus the Bears have no defensive identity the way Lovie's teams did or the truly great defenses of today do.

I was speaking more about the Bears. None have become great buy even with injuries he's been able to sustain a really good defense. Find him a great player and things start to changr.

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and 49ers were a bottom dweller before he got there

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So what is the deal, is this fucking daego done hemming and hawing? Is he coming back?

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If Vic is being a little bitch about this, then I would rather have Bettcher who is younger and better.

WTF is FAngio's problem? He's not getting a better job. Caller Bob.

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He's a fucking Italian. Can't trust those people.

I'm glad Fangio is playing hardball with these fuckers.

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Are you a Bears fan or a fan of this stupid ass wap? He couldn't even beat the Packers backup QB.

Neither. I'm just enjoying watching the Bears fuck up another "slam dunk" hire that everyone had as a done deal. If they don't re-sign him, what's the excuse going to be? That Nagy wanted to go in another direction? That Fangio refused to take a pay cut because they can't have him making more than Nagy? I caught shit from some for saying the Bears pissed Fangio off by blocking him from talking to the Bengals, and that is apparently coming back to bite them.

I think it's still more likely than not that he returns, but nothing wrong with making the Bears squirm. Regardless of whether he really matters, it would be a huge PR fail for them if he walks. Dave McGinnis had the balls, and he hadn't banked the millions that Fangio has.

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Jaw Breaker making some great points.

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He is but if Fangio is back, great. If not, there are other people who are good at the job available. Find me one of those other guys. Of course, the Bears are liable to let Fangio go and then hire someone with a bad resume.

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This is a question I don't know the answer to. I'm guessing there are at least some success stories here.

How many times in recent history has the coach been fired, and the offensive or defensive coordinator stuck around, and it worked out well for everyone? Now, the one that comes to mind to me is Dick LeBeau who I believe went from Cowher to Tomlin. However, it is at least phrased that Bill Cowher "retired" from the Steelers.

It just seems like a bad idea.

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it doesn't happen very often, but is the bad you expect to happen here?

Buddy Ryan and Da Coach.

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It's official per Biggs


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As much as the Bears sought a fresh voice and new approach for the offense and quarterback Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, they were pretty happy with how the defense has come along.

They have to feel like they might have the best for both sides of the ball now after defensive coordinator Vic Fangio agreed to return Friday, four days after the Bears hired Matt Nagy as head coach.

The Bears couldn’t know exactly how Fangio would react when he was informed Monday morning the team had selected someone else as the next head coach. General manager Ryan Pace gave Fangio the first interview for the position last week, and there was at least some concern that Fangio, who became a free agent Tuesday, would seek work elsewhere. Nagy and Pace were measured in their remarks at Tuesday’s introductory news conference, but by the end of that night, signs were pointing toward a return.

Fangio returned from the West Coast early Wednesday and was in discussions with the team that day. The sides continued to talk, and an agreement was reached Friday, giving the Bears a full set of coordinators after Nagy previously hired Mark Helfrich for offense and Chris Tabor for special teams.

The NFC North rival Packers and the Ravens were the most prominent options for Fangio, and both filled their defensive coordinator positions by Tuesday night. By no means did that close off all options for Fangio. He had been connected with Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur and was viewed as a possibility to pair with him in the event Shurmur gets a head-coaching job. Four teams are still looking to hire head coaches and staffs, and Shurmur has been rumored to have a good chance with the Cardinals.

But the Bears presented a chance for Fangio to continue building what he has worked on the last three years. The defense finished this season ranked seventh against the pass, ninth in points allowed, 10th in total defense, 11th against the run and tied for 13th with 22 takeaways. It accomplished that while losing six starters or key contributors to injured reserve: outside linebackers Leonard Floyd, Willie Young and Pernell McPhee, inside linebacker Jerrell Freeman, safety Quintin Demps and defensive end Mitch Unrein.

Hiring a veteran defensive coordinator was paramount for Nagy, a first-time head coach who will be directing the offense. Fangio knows the strengths and weaknesses of the personnel, and that will be an aid in tweaking the roster this offseason. This situation offers Fangio more autonomy running the defense than he had under John Fox.

With Fangio coming back, it’s likely the Bears will consider retaining multiple position coaches on that side of the ball, with Nagy having the final say. The Bears have made considerable progress building Nagy’s staff, taking advantage of the head start they got on other teams seeking a new coach.

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He still won't be able to solve the Packers.

Should've hired Eli Manning as DC.

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I'll admit I was wrong...I wonder what the Bears had to cough up money-wise.

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Or her