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Personally, I think the Russians never thought Trump could win. They would have been perfectly happy to just sow American discontent, regardless of who won. Trump would have his network, all the far right conspiracy machines would be churning, working to unearth anything on President HRC. The Russians would be absolutely giddy either way.

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It's an accepted FACT that Clinton's campaign paid for the dossier. How do you think Steele assembled the dossier? He hasn't been in Russia in 20 years. He reached out to Russian spies with Kremlin connections. I haven't heard anyone dispute that.

But again, you're not concerned with Russian interference except in as much as it can be used as a tool to undermine a president you feel was elected by slack-jawed racists.


Correct JORR, Clinton paid for the fake dossier with campaign donations. The only Russian collusion going on was from Hillary and her cronies.



I wouldn't even say that. Maybe the Trump campaign played footsie with Russians too. There's a special counsel investigating that. I just don't like the fake outrage over "Russian interference" when it's obvious that that is not the real concern. Because the Clinton campaign did collude with Russians to at least some degree with that dossier.

Look, the real thing is that this type of stuff goes on all the time with all campaigns. We can have real discussions about whether it's wrong and whether we should allow it. But it's been used as a way to brand Trump as some kind of traitor.

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This is fast becoming an act like Hannity is. Bravo performance! Bravo!


No you lemming, this has been reported multiple times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.136b54999f71

The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Fusion GPS gave Steele’s reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS’s role.

The dossier has become a lightning rod amid the intensifying investigations into the Trump campaign’s possible connections to Russia. Some congressional Republican leaders have spent months trying to discredit Fusion GPS and Steele and tried to determine the identity of the Democrat or organization that paid for the dossier.

People involved in the matter said that they would not disclose the dollar amounts paid to Fusion GPS but that the campaign and the DNC shared the cost.

The Clinton campaign paid Perkins Coie $5.6 million in legal fees from June 2015 to December 2016, according to campaign finance records, and the DNC paid the firm $3.6 million in “legal and compliance consulting’’ since November 2015

Fusion GPS executives invoked their constitutional right not to answer questions from the House Intelligence Committee.

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Personally, I think the Russians never thought Trump could win. They would have been perfectly happy to just sow American discontent


I agree with that. And it's worked.

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Personally, I think the Russians never thought Trump could win. They would have been perfectly happy to just sow American discontent, regardless of who won. Trump would have his network, all the far right conspiracy machines would be churning, working to unearth anything on President HRC. The Russians would be absolutely giddy either way.


They didn't think he would win. He didn't think he would win. Obama didn't give a statement about the interference because he didn't think he would win.

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The whole "Russians bombing social media with anti-Clinton ads" thing has been debunked. But regardless, do you think foreigners should be banned from purchasing political ads on American platforms? If so, what defines an "American platform"?

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This is fast becoming an act like Hannity is. Bravo performance! Bravo!


No you lemming, this has been reported multiple times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.136b54999f71

The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Fusion GPS gave Steele’s reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS’s role.

The dossier has become a lightning rod amid the intensifying investigations into the Trump campaign’s possible connections to Russia. Some congressional Republican leaders have spent months trying to discredit Fusion GPS and Steele and tried to determine the identity of the Democrat or organization that paid for the dossier.

People involved in the matter said that they would not disclose the dollar amounts paid to Fusion GPS but that the campaign and the DNC shared the cost.

The Clinton campaign paid Perkins Coie $5.6 million in legal fees from June 2015 to December 2016, according to campaign finance records, and the DNC paid the firm $3.6 million in “legal and compliance consulting’’ since November 2015

Fusion GPS executives invoked their constitutional right not to answer questions from the House Intelligence Committee.

I missed the part where Clinton paid the Russians.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The whole "Russians bombing social media with anti-Clinton ads" thing has been debunked. But regardless, do you think foreigners should be banned from purchasing political ads on American platforms? If so, what defines an "American platform"?

It has?


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Peter Puck wrote:
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The whole "Russians bombing social media with anti-Clinton ads" thing has been debunked. But regardless, do you think foreigners should be banned from purchasing political ads on American platforms? If so, what defines an "American platform"?

It has?



Of course not. DannyB is actually a Russian bot.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-switch/wp/2018/01/25/russians-got-tens-of-thousands-of-americans-to-rsvp-for-their-phony-political-events-on-facebook/



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The whole "Russians bombing social media with anti-Clinton ads" thing has been debunked. But regardless, do you think foreigners should be banned from purchasing political ads on American platforms? If so, what defines an "American platform"?

It has?

Russia has no more or less influence on social media than any other country or group or whatever. It was nonsense from the start, and just way for butthurt lefties to make excuses for why people in the midwest decided they didn't want to share in their Liberal Utopia.


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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-switch/wp/2018/01/25/russians-got-tens-of-thousands-of-americans-to-rsvp-for-their-phony-political-events-on-facebook/



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However, since the IRA was using incendiary, divisive, eye-drawing content about polarizing issues, it likely was able to squeeze more impressions and engagement out of each dollar of spend than Trump and Clinton’s ads driving awareness for the candidates That’s because Facebook’s ad auction system preferences engaging ads by providing lower rates. By focusing on hot-button issues and playing into people’s biases, the IRA’s ads got widely re-shared for free by viewers

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:45 am 
Guys just let JORR and his gang vent. Yesterday was a bad day for them. They need a distraction today.


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Juiced wrote:
Peter Puck wrote:
This is fast becoming an act like Hannity is. Bravo performance! Bravo!


No you lemming, this has been reported multiple times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.136b54999f71

The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Fusion GPS gave Steele’s reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS’s role.

The dossier has become a lightning rod amid the intensifying investigations into the Trump campaign’s possible connections to Russia. Some congressional Republican leaders have spent months trying to discredit Fusion GPS and Steele and tried to determine the identity of the Democrat or organization that paid for the dossier.

People involved in the matter said that they would not disclose the dollar amounts paid to Fusion GPS but that the campaign and the DNC shared the cost.

The Clinton campaign paid Perkins Coie $5.6 million in legal fees from June 2015 to December 2016, according to campaign finance records, and the DNC paid the firm $3.6 million in “legal and compliance consulting’’ since November 2015

Fusion GPS executives invoked their constitutional right not to answer questions from the House Intelligence Committee.

I missed the part where Clinton paid the Russians.


It's reasonable to assume that the Russians who helped assemble the dossier were paid. But even if they weren't, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Is it okay for Clinton to collude with Russians if the Russians help for free? This just makes my point that the real concern isn't Russian interference at all.

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It's an accepted FACT that Clinton's campaign paid for the dossier. How do you think Steele assembled the dossier? He hasn't been in Russia in 20 years. He reached out to Russian spies with Kremlin connections. I haven't heard anyone dispute that.

But again, you're not concerned with Russian interference except in as much as it can be used as a tool to undermine a president you feel was elected by slack-jawed racists.


Correct JORR, Clinton paid for the fake dossier with campaign donations. The only Russian collusion going on was from Hillary and her cronies.



I wouldn't even say that. Maybe the Trump campaign played footsie with Russians too. There's a special counsel investigating that. I just don't like the fake outrage over "Russian interference" when it's obvious that that is not the real concern. Because the Clinton campaign did collude with Russians to at least some degree with that dossier.

Look, the real thing is that this type of stuff goes on all the time with all campaigns. We can have real discussions about whether it's wrong and whether we should allow it. But it's been used as a way to brand Trump as some kind of traitor.


The next question if we are strong to answer the first as you laid it out is, of course, was this the first time candidates have accepted their aid and comfort?

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https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

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Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression
of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these
activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort
compared to previous operations.

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US
presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process,
denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess
Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We
have high confidence in these judgments.

 We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s
election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her
unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence
in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.

 Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the
electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton
was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining
her future presidency.

 Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior
since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and
goals.

Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert
intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government
agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.”
Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US
presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage
candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.

 Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US
presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.

 We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence
Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data
obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to
WikiLeaks.

 Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local
electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or
compromised were not involved in vote tallying.

 Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a
platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.
We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US
presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their
election processes.

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Ok, so one of the Soviet troll companies paid less than the Clinton campaign on Facebook. So?


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:lol: I don't blame you just because you're Caller Bob's favorite poster.

I suspect that in every American election various foreign governments have the candidate they would prefer to see win. That has nothing to do with collusion.

It seems we're stretching the definition of "collusion" to include things like a Russian oligarch who had a cup of coffee with Trump in 1992 and decided Trump might be more friendly to his business and so spent a bunch of his oil money on Facebook ads. I'm not sure if we should even try to stop that. I don't know how we could short of cracking down on the Internet like a Third World dictator. This is the global economy.

There's a lot of cognitive dissonance on the American Left. They don't value America's borders but suddenly they're worried about foreign interference in elections. The Left understands the problems of the idea of "corporate personhood". Corporations don't have nationalities. They are not citizens. Facebook and Twitter and Google are corporations. Yet we should trust them to vet our news?

This is like the Red Scare all over again, except worse. McCarthy actually believed there was a threat. This time it's nothing more than a cynical attempt to overturn/undermine a fair American election. Democrats know Russia isn't an existential threat. All you have to do is look at Obama's own words. They're on the record.

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This is fast becoming an act like Hannity is. Bravo performance! Bravo!


No you lemming, this has been reported multiple times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.136b54999f71

The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Fusion GPS gave Steele’s reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS’s role.

The dossier has become a lightning rod amid the intensifying investigations into the Trump campaign’s possible connections to Russia. Some congressional Republican leaders have spent months trying to discredit Fusion GPS and Steele and tried to determine the identity of the Democrat or organization that paid for the dossier.

People involved in the matter said that they would not disclose the dollar amounts paid to Fusion GPS but that the campaign and the DNC shared the cost.

The Clinton campaign paid Perkins Coie $5.6 million in legal fees from June 2015 to December 2016, according to campaign finance records, and the DNC paid the firm $3.6 million in “legal and compliance consulting’’ since November 2015

Fusion GPS executives invoked their constitutional right not to answer questions from the House Intelligence Committee.

I missed the part where Clinton paid the Russians.


It's reasonable to assume that the Russians who helped assemble the dossier were paid. But even if they weren't, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Is it okay for Clinton to collude with Russians if the Russians help for free? This just makes my point that the real concern isn't Russian interference at all.

We know that before all this started Trump sold a lot of apartments to Soviets looking to get cash out of Russia. I believe there was even interest in his building over there. Trump is connected to Felix Sater. So they paid a company who hired British spy with deep knowledge of the Soviets to get dirt on Trump in light of his business connections and how Putin and his cronies do business over there. That's an odd definition of collusion.


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You just don't get it Jet, those don't count. Because.

I have no rooting interest except the United States of America. How about you guys?

It does not appear that way.


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You just don't get it Jet, those don't count. Because.

I have no rooting interest except the United States of America. How about you guys?

It does not appear that way.



I know. You don't seem concerned that the Clinton campaign used Russian agents to compile opposition research.

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The Russians were pushing fake news and hate news stories all over the web and social media to undermine HRC. This certainly helped lead to Democratic voter lethargy and lower turnouts on election day.


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You just don't get it Jet, those don't count. Because.

I have no rooting interest except the United States of America. How about you guys?

It does not appear that way.



I know. You don't seem concerned that the Clinton campaign used Russian agents to compile opposition research.


Did I (and I'm being serious here) miss the part where Clintons met with Russians? As I understand it, they hired a US firm, who then chose to go the Russia route as I assume they were following a trail. I can't see a firm being hired to do opposition research having a meeting and deciding to start in Russia.

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I don't think you guys realize how transparent you really are. Trump flat went to fire Mueller and only stopped because the WH Counsel threatened to quit if he did. That's Nixon level obstruction of justice. It's not FAKE NEWS. Even Hannity is admitting it's true. Not one peep out of you "non partisan" people just worried about the nation. Sad.


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One thing that is being lost in all of this. Putin flat out stated that his interference,if there was any, was in direct response to the United States interference in the last Russian parliamentary elections. So once again, we are reaping what we have sown. Thanks Obama!

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I don't think you guys realize how transparent you really are. Trump flat went to fire Mueller and only stopped because the WH Counsel threatened to quit if he did. That's Nixon level obstruction of justice. It's not FAKE NEWS. Even Hannity is admitting it's true. Not one peep out of you "non partisan" people just worried about the nation. Sad.


I'm confused...did he fire Mueller?


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You just don't get it Jet, those don't count. Because.

I have no rooting interest except the United States of America. How about you guys?

It does not appear that way.



I know. You don't seem concerned that the Clinton campaign used Russian agents to compile opposition research.


Did I (and I'm being serious here) miss the part where Clintons met with Russians? As I understand it, they hired a US firm, who then chose to go the Russia route as I assume they were following a trail. I can't see a firm being hired to do opposition research having a meeting and deciding to start in Russia.


Really? Why are you defending a campaign colluding with Russian agents? Seriously, it's either outrageous or it isn't.

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