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the blatant nepotism at my firm, its like they don't even try and hide it.


Or the tentacles of the law office led by a southwest sider that pushed an unqualified family member into an Appellate and then Supreme Court seat, or another member into a current run for Cook Co commissioner, or the idiot southwest side US congressman who brought his son back to town, then quit & left said idiot to be installed in DC, or the prior mayor who got there on family, continued the family practice of spreading it around to quietly be repaid in spades.

Or 43, then Jeb! on a national level. The thieving Paul family and Javanka now.

At least it was the cronies(& not family) of the long time puppet/Cook Co board pres who elevated his son into the chair for which he was ill prepared. Or JJJ openly trading on family influence, but weaving a bs facade of upward mobility and sophistication on the charmed electorate.


What about Hillary?


She's never won a race in which I voted for her, so she doesn't count in my book. :lol:


:lol: You're bad luck.

Hers is a tad bit different in that she was elected Senator of New York. She wasn't appointed. Obviously she won on Name recognition but she wouldn't be the first pol to do that.


She also was intricately involved in different aspects of Bill Clinton's governorship and presidency. She was as involved for better or worse than any of his chief advisors. In many respects she was his chief advisor. She also helped with policy. Again rightly or wrongly depending on how we look at it.

I think I read somewhere that she has it in her rider when doing speaking engagements now she has to be introduced as “ the most qualified person ever to not be elected president “

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Hillary should hire LTG for her next attempt at president. He can be her Kellyanne Conway.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:23 am 
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the blatant nepotism at my firm, its like they don't even try and hide it.


Or the tentacles of the law office led by a southwest sider that pushed an unqualified family member into an Appellate and then Supreme Court seat, or another member into a current run for Cook Co commissioner, or the idiot southwest side US congressman who brought his son back to town, then quit & left said idiot to be installed in DC, or the prior mayor who got there on family, continued the family practice of spreading it around to quietly be repaid in spades.

Or 43, then Jeb! on a national level. The thieving Paul family and Javanka now.

At least it was the cronies(& not family) of the long time puppet/Cook Co board pres who elevated his son into the chair for which he was ill prepared. Or JJJ openly trading on family influence, but weaving a bs facade of upward mobility and sophistication on the charmed electorate.


What about Hillary?


She's never won a race in which I voted for her, so she doesn't count in my book. :lol:


:lol: You're bad luck.

Hers is a tad bit different in that she was elected Senator of New York. She wasn't appointed. Obviously she won on Name recognition but she wouldn't be the first pol to do that.


She also was intricately involved in different aspects of Bill Clinton's governorship and presidency. She was as involved for better or worse than any of his chief advisors. In many respects she was his chief advisor. She also helped with policy. Again rightly or wrongly depending on how we look at it.

I think I read somewhere that she has it in her rider when doing speaking engagements now she has to be introduced as “ the most qualified person ever to not be elected president “


She needs to quit with that B.S. She isn't but she was more qualified than the last 2 guys that were elected.

She needs to stop with the "grave injustice" angle and move on with her life.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:26 am 
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Hillary should hire LTG for her next attempt at president. He can be her Kellyanne Conway.



To be honest the "Non Trump supporters" on here advocate for him much more than I do for her. I take the alternative viewpoint because I think she gets a raw deal with some of this and very few if any on here cut her slack on anything. Hatred and Bias clouds their judgment on all things Hillary IMO.

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Hillary should hire LTG for her next attempt at president. He can be her Kellyanne Conway.



To be honest the "Non Trump supporters" on here advocate for him much more than I do for her. I take the alternative viewpoint because I think she gets a raw deal with some of this and very few if any on here cut her slack on anything. Hatred and Bias clouds their judgment on all things Hillary IMO.



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There is absolutely no need for you to turn this thread into yet another politics pissing match. You all have 15 other threads you can do that in.

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we got a guy on our team that is some sort of protected class, but we don't know who it is and what the protected category is.

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There is absolutely no need for you to turn this thread into yet another politics pissing match. You all have 15 other threads you can do that in.


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we got a guy on our team that is some sort of protected class, but we don't know who it is and what the protected category is.


Midget?

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There is absolutely no need for you to turn this thread into yet another politics pissing match. You all have 15 other threads you can do that in.



As a capitalist (which I think you are) shouldn't the marketplace decide it?


Again the hypocrisy. You turn every White Sox thread into an ad hominem attack on Keyser at some point. Before that it was BigFan WYC?

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No. I have decided this should not be a politics thread. As I stated YOU literally have dozens of other threads here to do that in.

I reply to Keyser with facts, not "ad hominem attacks" across multiple threads. Stop crying and STFU.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:52 am 
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No. I have decided this should not be a politics thread. As I stated YOU literally have dozens of other threads here to do that in.



I reply to Keyser with facts, not "ad hominem attacks" across multiple threads. Stop crying and STFU.


You actually were the person crying you damn hypocrite. As long as you are overstepping your boundaries as "just another poster" and attempting to legislate its fine. When someone calls you on your bullshit they need to STFU. I'm not going to just shut the fuck up and for the record I will continue to say whatever the fuck I want to say.

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My boundaries? :lol: :lol:

Whatever dude. Continue to say what you want, and people will continue to not care.

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No. I have decided this should not be a politics thread. As I stated YOU literally have dozens of other threads here to do that in.



I reply to Keyser with facts, not "ad hominem attacks" across multiple threads. Stop crying and STFU.


You actually were the person crying you damn hypocrite. As long as you are overstepping your boundaries as "just another poster" and attempting to legislate its fine. When someone calls you on your bullshit they need to STFU. I'm not going to just shut the fuck up and for the record I will continue to say whatever the fuck I want to say.

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My boundaries? :lol: :lol:

Whatever dude. Continue to say what you want, and people will continue to not care.


Yet you cared enough to respond.

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No. I have decided this should not be a politics thread. As I stated YOU literally have dozens of other threads here to do that in.



I reply to Keyser with facts, not "ad hominem attacks" across multiple threads. Stop crying and STFU.


You actually were the person crying you damn hypocrite. As long as you are overstepping your boundaries as "just another poster" and attempting to legislate its fine. When someone calls you on your bullshit they need to STFU. I'm not going to just shut the fuck up and for the record I will continue to say whatever the fuck I want to say.

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You know why DT? He is full of shit. Same guys complaining about the same shit without any credibility on any of it. It is really rich to hear a guy that destroys every white sox thread (and Many Cubs threads) complaining about thread destruction. Before that he followed BigFan around like a damn lap dog looking for shit to fuck with him about. Now he is hypocritically talking about the "integrity of threads" in the vain that so called baseball purists discuss the steroid era.

Edgy works in certain instances. In my experiences in life I have come to live by the old adage "when engaging a pig sometimes it is necessary for one to get in the mud" Simple.

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It's a legitimate problem. Underperforming workers or whatever that are "protected" because of the fear of being accused of prejudice if you take otherwise legitimate and fair action against them.


Unpack this for me.


Obviously one's race has no impact on their job performance. In the case of my coworker, playing that card was a power move and completely out-of-line. Yet he received the response he was looking for.


I've seen women flirt or worse to move ahead but I've never seen someone successfully use their race or gender to force a promotion.



I've been told by white bosses that they were only allowed to hire black or Hispanic males during a certain period of time. I've also been told by those same bosses that an African American coworker was up for a promotion because the company needed to promote minorities.

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There is a coworker that numerous people have had an issue with. This person is such a shitty person that people outside the company have come up to me to see what the deal is with said person. This person has been thrown out of stores be receivers and barred from ever going back. Management refuses to fire him because "he's had it rough".

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I've been told by white bosses that they were only allowed to hire black or Hispanic males during a certain period of time. I've also been told by those same bosses that an African American coworker was up for a promotion because the company needed to promote minorities.


Interesting you should mention that. When a leader at my company learned that I have the slightest percentage of Hispanic heritage, I was strongly encouraged to "mark that down on the annual survey" because it would look better.


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I've been told by white bosses that they were only allowed to hire black or Hispanic males during a certain period of time. I've also been told by those same bosses that an African American coworker was up for a promotion because the company needed to promote minorities.


Interesting you should mention that. When a leader at my company learned that I have the slightest percentage of Hispanic heritage, I was strongly encouraged to "mark that down on the annual survey" because it would look better.



We had a guy that the company wanted to hire as a merchandiser. They said they had to wait because they had a hiring freeze though. They asked me to write down his name and number. His last name was Sanchez or some shit like that even though he looked as white as I do. Boss stopped me and said "Wait,he's hispanic?"

Week later he was hired.
So yeah it does help.

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Edgy works in certain instances.

Sure; it's called 'Junior High School'.

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When I first became involved in my profession we had a quota system that worked in reverse. Our staff was 83% African American and we had to get that figure down to 65%. There was a freeze on African American hires for a period of about 2 to 3 years. Different techniques were used by employers in order to attract white employees also. Expedited Certification programs were installed as a means of attracting white applicants. Other enhancements were implemented as well. In a period of less than 5 five years the composition of the workplace at my job changed dramatically as a result.

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Sure; it's called 'Junior High School'.



When a guy first tells you to shut the fuck up isn't that also an example of "edgy" or am I missing something? Doesn't exactly constitute warm and fuzzy.

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Edgy works in certain instances.

Sure; it's called 'Junior High School'.



When a guy first tells you to shut the fuck up isn't that also an example of "edgy" or am I missing something? Doesn't exactly constitute warm and fuzzy.

Doesn't warrant giving them any attention either. I mean, this is pretty basic stuff here. I'm not trying to give you the business, I'm trying to diffuse a situation that shouldn't have existed in the first place, because Frank's original point is right insofar as his take that we don't need another thread infected with partisan political prattle.

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