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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:27 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:34 am 
And Trump is the President.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:52 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:55 am 
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I heard Trump also said he wants to fire all of Congress. Treason?

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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:49 am 
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JORR, JLN and the rest of the trumpkins, simply can't handle the truth.

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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:51 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I heard Trump also said he wants to fire all of Congress. Treason?


And Trump has as much authority to fire Congress as he does to fire Mueller. How can you obstruct justice by wanting something done that can't be done?


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:53 am 
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I heard Trump also said he wants to fire all of Congress. Treason?


And Trump has as much authority to fire Congress as he does to fire Mueller. How can you obstruct justice by wanting something done that can't be done?

Wow you're stupid.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:25 pm 
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Baby McNown wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I heard Trump also said he wants to fire all of Congress. Treason?


And Trump has as much authority to fire Congress as he does to fire Mueller. How can you obstruct justice by wanting something done that can't be done?

Wow you're stupid.


You know, it's odd, I've never actually seen you make a point or argument. You seemingly just regurgitate the final narrative spun from wherever you get your news and analysis and then call people names that disagree with you.

Anyway, here are the issues regarding obstruction vis a vis firing Mueller as I understand them:

1. Does Trump have the authority to fire Mueller, and would ordering a White House attorney to do something that cannot be done be considered an obstruction of an inquiry under the relevant statute? Also, is expressing a desire to do something, but ultimately not following through substantively, constituted as an "endeavor to...." under the law?

2. Can Trump be charged with any crime as a sitting President?

3. Can Trump, as the head of the federal law enforcement agency, obstruct justice by exercising his authority to shape said agency as he sees fit (by firing Rosenstein and appointing someone who would fire Mueller)?

I think most experts agree that the answers to both #1.a and #2 are "no", and any answer to #3 has never ever been tested.

My gut tells me that the answers to #1.b and .c are likewise "no", because a world where you can obstruct justice—or attempt to—by wishing justice wouldn't happen to you or even ordering something you don't have the authority to order in the first place, is just nonsensical and absurd.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:35 pm 
Maybe Chas can help you understand this whole issue.

What you don't seem to realize is that going on long winded lectures doesn't make you right. You should really try not to do that. It only makes you look more like an idiot when you are shot down in one line.


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Again, no discussion, no argument made, just appealing to some nebulous authority. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:00 pm 
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Again, no discussion, no argument made, just appealing to some nebulous authority. :roll:

You don't want a discussion. You want to type 18 pages worth of Shit until people finally give up and then you declare you are right no matter how wrong you are. Or you will just declare you are still right even after 20 pages showing you how wrong you are. If you were interested in a discussion that would be a totally different matter.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:11 pm 
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Baby McNown wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Again, no discussion, no argument made, just appealing to some nebulous authority. :roll:

You don't want a discussion. You want to type 18 pages worth of Shit until people finally give up and then you declare you are right no matter how wrong you are. Or you will just declare you are still right even after 20 pages showing you how wrong you are. If you were interested in a discussion that would be a totally different matter.


I've posed 5 questions regarding obstruction since waking up this morning. You have responded to none of them other than to declare me wrong and call me stupid. Yet I'm the one who doesn't want a discussion. Enjoy your Sunday, Baby.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:14 pm 
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Again, no discussion, no argument made, just appealing to some nebulous authority. :roll:

You don't want a discussion. You want to type 18 pages worth of Shit until people finally give up and then you declare you are right no matter how wrong you are. Or you will just declare you are still right even after 20 pages showing you how wrong you are. If you were interested in a discussion that would be a totally different matter.


I've posed 5 questions regarding obstruction since waking up this morning. You have responded to none of them other than to declare me wrong and call me stupid. Yet I'm the one who doesn't want a discussion. Enjoy your Sunday, Baby.

Like I said. You have no interest in discussion. You don't want answers you don't like. You just want to be told you are right. Very fitting that you are a disciple of Trump.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:27 pm 
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Really. You said the Clinton campaign used Russian agents to compile opposition research. I was seriously asking if that actually happened or if it was just hyperbole to fit your narrative. I found your statement to be a rather large leap.

First the (non-Trump) Republicans hire Fusion. Then the Dems hired Fusion. Did the GOP tell Fusion to go to Russia? Did the Dems tell Fusion to go to Russia? Or, did Fusion hire a guy to investigate and that's where his investigation led him? Is that info even out there?

I think I asked a valid question as we know the Trumps met with Russians directly and repeatedly (and MANY lied about having the meetings).

In all honesty, I don't see the investigation going anywhere anyway.

But, dismissing the Russian investigation while embracing the great text/secret society conspiracy seems disingenuous at best.


I think it's common knowledge at this point that Russian agents assisted Steele in preparing the dossier. Additionally, Fusion worked for anti-Trump Republicans prior to the creation of the dossier. The dossier was funded in full by the DNC/Clinton campaign.

Is it okay to collude with Russia in attempts to prove your opponent colluded with Russia? You see how silly that is?

And I don't have a narrative. I'd like to find out what really happened. One question I have is whether Mueller is investing Trump or if he's investigating Russian involvement in the last election cycle. There is a difference there.

The fact is that Trump is actually president while Clinton is not. Obviously that matters. But trying to tar Trump as a traitor while his opponent clearly hired/was assisted by Russian operatives doesn't really sound right, does it?




You've got this backward. What is common knowledge at this point is that Russian agents assisted Clinton in securing favorable terms for a shady plutonium deal. Additionally, a known sexual harasser worked for Clinton right under the noses of all these fake liberal, pro-women's rights dopes. Is it okay to undermine the sovereign authority of a sitting U.S. president just to install a corrupt and venal hypocrite in his place? You see how absurd that is?

You do have a narrative. You don't want to find out what really happened. The fact is that Clinton is a hypocrite and a douchebag while Trump is President. Obviously that is important. But trying to paint Trump as a gassbag while his opponent clearly cooperated with shady operatives on the plutonium deal doesn't really sound consistent, does it?


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:35 pm 
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Beerdown wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Killer V wrote:
Really. You said the Clinton campaign used Russian agents to compile opposition research. I was seriously asking if that actually happened or if it was just hyperbole to fit your narrative. I found your statement to be a rather large leap.

First the (non-Trump) Republicans hire Fusion. Then the Dems hired Fusion. Did the GOP tell Fusion to go to Russia? Did the Dems tell Fusion to go to Russia? Or, did Fusion hire a guy to investigate and that's where his investigation led him? Is that info even out there?

I think I asked a valid question as we know the Trumps met with Russians directly and repeatedly (and MANY lied about having the meetings).

In all honesty, I don't see the investigation going anywhere anyway.

But, dismissing the Russian investigation while embracing the great text/secret society conspiracy seems disingenuous at best.


I think it's common knowledge at this point that Russian agents assisted Steele in preparing the dossier. Additionally, Fusion worked for anti-Trump Republicans prior to the creation of the dossier. The dossier was funded in full by the DNC/Clinton campaign.

Is it okay to collude with Russia in attempts to prove your opponent colluded with Russia? You see how silly that is?

And I don't have a narrative. I'd like to find out what really happened. One question I have is whether Mueller is investing Trump or if he's investigating Russian involvement in the last election cycle. There is a difference there.

The fact is that Trump is actually president while Clinton is not. Obviously that matters. But trying to tar Trump as a traitor while his opponent clearly hired/was assisted by Russian operatives doesn't really sound right, does it?




You've got this backward. What is common knowledge at this point is that Russian agents assisted Clinton in securing favorable terms for a shady plutonium deal. Additionally, a known sexual harasser worked for Clinton right under the noses of all these fake liberal, pro-women's rights dopes. Is it okay to undermine the sovereign authority of a sitting U.S. president just to install a corrupt and venal hypocrite in his place? You see how absurd that is?

You do have a narrative. You don't want to find out what really happened. The fact is that Clinton is a hypocrite and a douchebag while Trump is President. Obviously that is important. But trying to paint Trump as a gassbag while his opponent clearly cooperated with shady operatives on the plutonium deal doesn't really sound consistent, does it?


Uh ohhh....


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:56 pm 
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Well that wouldn't have been my guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
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Well that wouldn't have been my guess.

Which part?

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 Post subject: Re: Missing FBI texts
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:09 pm 
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Beerdown wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Killer V wrote:
Really. You said the Clinton campaign used Russian agents to compile opposition research. I was seriously asking if that actually happened or if it was just hyperbole to fit your narrative. I found your statement to be a rather large leap.

First the (non-Trump) Republicans hire Fusion. Then the Dems hired Fusion. Did the GOP tell Fusion to go to Russia? Did the Dems tell Fusion to go to Russia? Or, did Fusion hire a guy to investigate and that's where his investigation led him? Is that info even out there?

I think I asked a valid question as we know the Trumps met with Russians directly and repeatedly (and MANY lied about having the meetings).

In all honesty, I don't see the investigation going anywhere anyway.

But, dismissing the Russian investigation while embracing the great text/secret society conspiracy seems disingenuous at best.


I think it's common knowledge at this point that Russian agents assisted Steele in preparing the dossier. Additionally, Fusion worked for anti-Trump Republicans prior to the creation of the dossier. The dossier was funded in full by the DNC/Clinton campaign.

Is it okay to collude with Russia in attempts to prove your opponent colluded with Russia? You see how silly that is?

And I don't have a narrative. I'd like to find out what really happened. One question I have is whether Mueller is investing Trump or if he's investigating Russian involvement in the last election cycle. There is a difference there.

The fact is that Trump is actually president while Clinton is not. Obviously that matters. But trying to tar Trump as a traitor while his opponent clearly hired/was assisted by Russian operatives doesn't really sound right, does it?




You've got this backward. What is common knowledge at this point is that Russian agents assisted Clinton in securing favorable terms for a shady plutonium deal. Additionally, a known sexual harasser worked for Clinton right under the noses of all these fake liberal, pro-women's rights dopes. Is it okay to undermine the sovereign authority of a sitting U.S. president just to install a corrupt and venal hypocrite in his place? You see how absurd that is?

You do have a narrative. You don't want to find out what really happened. The fact is that Clinton is a hypocrite and a douchebag while Trump is President. Obviously that is important. But trying to paint Trump as a gassbag while his opponent clearly cooperated with shady operatives on the plutonium deal doesn't really sound consistent, does it?


Uh ohhh....
:lol:

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