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Bagels

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:02 pm

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Nas wrote:

billypootons wrote:

Elgin Baylor is running the clips again...or

Clippers found out Blake got Kendell Jenner pregnant

If you would have told me that the Bulls would have gotten more for trading Butler than the Clippers got for trading CP3 and Griffin I would have thought that you were crazy. Especially with Jerry West around.

Thibs should have been out there offering Teague, Dieng and a 2nd round pick

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:04 pm

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Clippers got raped. What an awful trade.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:05 pm

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Bagels wrote:

Nas wrote:

billypootons wrote:

Elgin Baylor is running the clips again...or

Clippers found out Blake got Kendell Jenner pregnant

Thibs should have been out there offering Teague, Dieng and a 2nd round pick

Yep!

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:07 pm

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Bulls could have offered Mirotic, Holiday, Zipster and a 2nd rounder and that would have been a better return.

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Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:13 pm

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Bagels wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

When healthy Blake’s a superstar. Good gamble for Detroit.

Its a good gamble only bc Detroit wasn't doing shit anyways and had 0 chance of getting any kind of impact free agent anytime soon
That said I still don't think this makes them great or anywhere close
Do you agree with Nas that they're a top 5 team in the east now ?

They are not a top 5 in the state

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:26 pm

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Bagels wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

When healthy Blake’s a superstar. Good gamble for Detroit.

They might be but the top of the east is weak like Ukraine.

Spacing will be a problem even with Blake shooting 3s now.

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Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:30 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Bulls could have offered Mirotic, Holiday, Zipster and a 2nd rounder and that would have been a better return.

No.

Bradley and Harris are good players. The narrative that the Clippers received nothing in return is false.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:32 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Bulls could have offered Mirotic, Holiday, Zipster and a 2nd rounder and that would have been a better return.

No.

Bradley and Harris are good players. The narrative that the Clippers received nothing in return is false.

You usually get a lot more for a super star.

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:33 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Bulls could have offered Mirotic, Holiday, Zipster and a 2nd rounder and that would have been a better return.

No.

Bradley and Harris are good players. The narrative that the Clippers received nothing in return is false.

Avery Bradley has a PER of 10 right now. At this point, Denzel Valentine can do the same things as Avery Bradley.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:16 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Bulls could have offered Mirotic, Holiday, Zipster and a 2nd rounder and that would have been a better return.

No.

Bradley and Harris are good players. The narrative that the Clippers received nothing in return is false.

Avery Bradley has a PER of 10 right now. At this point, Denzel Valentine can do the same things as Avery Bradley.

Get back to me when Valentine makes all defensive first team.

I used to think your Nwaba = Leonard comp was trolling but looks like you were serious :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:17 pm

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Griffin is an injury waiting to happen.

Huge win Clippers.

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Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:24 pm

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It was a good move for the Clipppers because teams typically don't get much for a guy in the last year of a deal. Doc is probably done with the Clippers at some point and shortly thereafter they will probably cut Austin Rivers too.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:34 pm

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:

He just signed a new deal

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:39 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Bulls could have offered Mirotic, Holiday, Zipster and a 2nd rounder and that would have been a better return.

No.

Bradley and Harris are good players. The narrative that the Clippers received nothing in return is false.

Avery Bradley has a PER of 10 right now. At this point, Denzel Valentine can do the same things as Avery Bradley.

Get back to me when Valentine makes all defensive first team.

I used to think your Nwaba = Leonard comp was trolling but looks like you were serious :shock:

Valentine's defense isn't as bad as people make it out to be. He is improved in that regard with room to grow. He's a "participator" in the concepts of team defense

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Don Tiny

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:40 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

When healthy Grant Hill’s a superstar. Good gamble for the Magic, the Suns, & the Clips, .

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Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:44 pm

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This was a good trade for the Clippers provided they resign Bradley. Pick figures to be in the top half of the first round. Harris is a good player also.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:44 pm

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'Charles Barkley wrote:

Don Tiny wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

When healthy Grant Hill’s a superstar. Good gamble for the Magic, the Suns, & the Clips, .

That's Turrible!

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Douchebag

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:58 pm

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long time guy wrote:

This was a good trade for the Clippers provided they resign Bradley. Pick figures to be in the top half of the first round. Harris is a good player also.

Avery Bradley is massively overrated.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:00 pm

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Douchebag wrote:

long time guy wrote:

This was a good trade for the Clippers provided they resign Bradley. Pick figures to be in the top half of the first round. Harris is a good player also.

Avery Bradley is massively overrated.

No that would be Lance Stephenson.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:09 pm

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Don Tiny wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

When healthy Grant Hill’s a superstar. Good gamble for the Magic, the Suns, & the Clips, .

This guy gets it

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veganfan21

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:17 pm

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Griffin ain't shit. Doc Rivers will never lead LA anywhere.

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:24 am

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2225 ... it-pistons

i tend to agree with most of this

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Douchebag

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:34 am

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billypootons wrote:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22258759/zach-lowe-blake-griffin-trade-future-la-clippers-detroit-pistons

i tend to agree with most of this

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A word on loyalty: The Clippers went out of their way to label Griffin a "Clipper for life." As I first revealed here, the preamble to their free agency pitch meeting involved walking Griffin through a makeshift museum of his life and then retiring his number -- literally raising it to the rafters as music played in an empty Staples Center -- in a staged "ceremony."

Ooops.

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They (Detroit) have $28 million in combined 2018-19 salary invested in Leuer, Langston Galloway, Ish Smith and Josh Smith. (Yes, that Josh Smith. He hasn't played for the Pistons since December 2014, but they are paying him $5.3 million per season through 2019-20 anyway.)

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Bagels

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:47 am

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ZephMarshack

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:52 am

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I have to agree with Dave McMenamin that we'll likely be seeing more and more guys demanding no trade clauses if they find themselves in Griffin's situation in the future.

This is also exactly the kind of thing that leads to players wanting to say screw loyalty and form superteams. If it's okay for teams to decide "it's just business" in situations like this, it's equally acceptable for the players themselves to do so as well.

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 am

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ZephMarshack wrote:

Blake's agent failed... especially after that phony retirement ceremony bit, could have easily gotten a no trade clause... right?

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Big Chicagoan

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:56 am

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Only a matter of time before the Kardashians trade him in, too.

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Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:10 pm

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Does this trade make the Pistons better than the Celtics?

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Douchebag

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:14 pm

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:

Does this trade make the Pistons better than the Celtics?

Maybe better than the '87 Celtics (If Larry Bird was walking through that door today).

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: Blake Griffin to the Pistons?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:26 pm

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Nas wrote:

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You usually get a lot more for a super star.

No you don't.

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