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That's essentially what happened. The DNC continued the Fusion GPS contract and Fusion GPS hired Steele who very likely hired Russians to get dirt on Trump. I understand that it's politics and it's Hillary but no one would attack PittMike for hiring Chas. However if we need to sacrifice Hillary for Kushner and Trump Jr I'm all for it. Seeing the embarrassment on the face of the president would bring joy to me.



:lol: :lol: :lol: All you do all day long is insist on GETTING TRUMP because a guy who volunteered in his campaign may have done business with a Russian, but I guess Clinton/DNC hiring Russian spies through an intermediary is no big deal. #RESISTANCE in a nutshell.

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That's essentially what happened. The DNC continued the Fusion GPS contract and Fusion GPS hired Steele who very likely hired Russians to get dirt on Trump. I understand that it's politics and it's Hillary but no one would attack PittMike for hiring Chas. However if we need to sacrifice Hillary for Kushner and Trump Jr I'm all for it. Seeing the embarrassment on the face of the president would bring joy to me.



:lol: :lol: :lol: All you do all day long is insist on GETTING TRUMP because a guy who volunteered in his campaign may have done business with a Russian, but I guess Clinton/DNC hiring Russian spies through an intermediary is no big deal. #RESISTANCE in a nutshell.


And all you do is pretend that the latest embarassment for this band of goofs is the only factor being considered :lol:

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That's essentially what happened. The DNC continued the Fusion GPS contract and Fusion GPS hired Steele who very likely hired Russians to get dirt on Trump. I understand that it's politics and it's Hillary but no one would attack PittMike for hiring Chas. However if we need to sacrifice Hillary for Kushner and Trump Jr I'm all for it. Seeing the embarrassment on the face of the president would bring joy to me.



:lol: :lol: :lol: All you do all day long is insist on GETTING TRUMP because a guy who volunteered in his campaign may have done business with a Russian, but I guess Clinton/DNC hiring Russian spies through an intermediary is no big deal. #RESISTANCE in a nutshell.


:cry: :lol: :cry: :lol: I love your use of the word volunteer. I've been consistent from the beginning about Trump. MANY of the people who I said were likely criminals have either been charged, accepted plea deals or are Carter Page and Roger Stone. At least 1 of the remaining 2 will get indicted. Kushner and Don Jr are the cherries on top. I want the president to be embarrassed not removed. That way I won't be forced to defend him.

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One thing has me a little confused here. If I hire a private investigator and he finds evidence to support my court case, is that evidence ineligible for this and all court cases going forward.


Correct and the only thing that should matter is whether the information is factual or not. Does it become necessarily more factual if it's Sean Hannity who hired the investigators?

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That's essentially what happened. The DNC continued the Fusion GPS contract and Fusion GPS hired Steele who very likely hired Russians to get dirt on Trump. I understand that it's politics and it's Hillary but no one would attack PittMike for hiring Chas. However if we need to sacrifice Hillary for Kushner and Trump Jr I'm all for it. Seeing the embarrassment on the face of the president would bring joy to me.



:lol: :lol: :lol: All you do all day long is insist on GETTING TRUMP because a guy who volunteered in his campaign may have done business with a Russian, but I guess Clinton/DNC hiring Russian spies through an intermediary is no big deal. #RESISTANCE in a nutshell.


:cry: :lol: :cry: :lol: I love your use of the word volunteer. I've been consistent from the beginning about Trump. MANY of the people who I said were likely criminals have either been charged, accepted plea deals or are Carter Page and Roger Stone. At least 1 of the remaining 2 will get indicted. Kushner and Don Jr are the cherries on top. I want the president to be embarrassed not removed. That way I won't be forced to defend him.


MANY have been charged with crimes completely unrelated to the stated intention of the ongoing investigation (which, by the way, doesn't specify the crimes being investigated by said investigation).


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Nas wrote:
That's essentially what happened. The DNC continued the Fusion GPS contract and Fusion GPS hired Steele who very likely hired Russians to get dirt on Trump. I understand that it's politics and it's Hillary but no one would attack PittMike for hiring Chas. However if we need to sacrifice Hillary for Kushner and Trump Jr I'm all for it. Seeing the embarrassment on the face of the president would bring joy to me.



:lol: :lol: :lol: All you do all day long is insist on GETTING TRUMP because a guy who volunteered in his campaign may have done business with a Russian, but I guess Clinton/DNC hiring Russian spies through an intermediary is no big deal. #RESISTANCE in a nutshell.


And all you do is pretend that the latest embarassment for this band of goofs is the only factor being considered :lol:


You have no evidence of any collusion in the election by the Trump campaign because there likely wasn't any. When we see it we can discuss it. Until then it's just made up crap. And we've forgotten where it began. With the butthurt who can't stand that Clinton is not president. So it isn't even about collusion anymore. Now it's "obstruction". Obstruction of an investigation of a crime that never occurred? How does that work exactly?

And it has to hurt that the only facts regarding colluding with Russians in the 2016 presidential election fall on the Clinton campaign.

But as I've said all along, the crying has NOTHING to do with Russian collusion. It's about weakening Trump and ideally ending his presidency. if you really cared about Russians sticking their noses into our election, you wouldn't defend Hillary hiring Russian spies through an intermediary.

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One thing has me a little confused here. If I hire a private investigator and he finds evidence to support my court case, is that evidence ineligible for this and all court cases going forward.


Correct and the only thing that should matter is whether the information is factual or not. Does it become necessarily more factual if it's Sean Hannity who hired the investigators?

Sean Hannity is a big believer in all things Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity says 'You bet your bottom dollar it is. Anything Sean Hannity says, does, promotes is 100% gold. You can take that to the bank. Sean Hannity has spoken.'


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MANY republicans start growing a pair when they don't have to count on the Trumpets vote.


To be fair, he says he wants to be a federal litigator again, and saying the underboss of the DOJ should be fired might be an impediment to that ends.

Still, and Gowdy said as much, it is a dangerous precedent for various heads of executive branch law enforcement agencies to be able to use opposition research as probable cause for a warrant to surveil a US citizen, and not only that, to be allowed to obscure the source and inherent bias of that research.

I guess its going to be pretty hard now for Dems to pretend that the dossier didn't act as probable cause to surveil a US Citizen using FISA, and that Rosenstein didn't hide the fact that the dossier was political research funded by the DNC from the FISC judge.


Can we also stop having posters here claiming Clinton did not pay for the dossier?


She didn't. If you hire a contractor for some work and that contractor hires a sub contractor who hire Chas should you be attacked for hiring a pedophile?


Without a doubt. I handle liability lawsuits. My client gets sued all the time for work it subcontracts out. Do we try to get the sub to pick up our suit? Of course. Does it really matter in the eyes of the plaintiff? Nope.

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Nas wrote:
That's essentially what happened. The DNC continued the Fusion GPS contract and Fusion GPS hired Steele who very likely hired Russians to get dirt on Trump. I understand that it's politics and it's Hillary but no one would attack PittMike for hiring Chas. However if we need to sacrifice Hillary for Kushner and Trump Jr I'm all for it. Seeing the embarrassment on the face of the president would bring joy to me.



:lol: :lol: :lol: All you do all day long is insist on GETTING TRUMP because a guy who volunteered in his campaign may have done business with a Russian, but I guess Clinton/DNC hiring Russian spies through an intermediary is no big deal. #RESISTANCE in a nutshell.


:cry: :lol: :cry: :lol: I love your use of the word volunteer. I've been consistent from the beginning about Trump. MANY of the people who I said were likely criminals have either been charged, accepted plea deals or are Carter Page and Roger Stone. At least 1 of the remaining 2 will get indicted. Kushner and Don Jr are the cherries on top. I want the president to be embarrassed not removed. That way I won't be forced to defend him.


MANY have been charged with crimes completely unrelated to the stated intention of the ongoing investigation (which, by the way, doesn't specify the crimes being investigated by said investigation).



I'm confident that the Flynn deal was made to get him to cooperate. What he agreed to was a charge the feds easily lose in court. Manafort was having money problems and we'll likely find out more about what he did really soon after the shoes fall elsewhere.

I didn't see Trump Jr being involved and I thought Kushner was too smart to be involved. That kinda explains why the president wanted to shut down the investigation about Russian interference in our election.

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Nas wrote:
pittmike wrote:
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MANY republicans start growing a pair when they don't have to count on the Trumpets vote.


To be fair, he says he wants to be a federal litigator again, and saying the underboss of the DOJ should be fired might be an impediment to that ends.

Still, and Gowdy said as much, it is a dangerous precedent for various heads of executive branch law enforcement agencies to be able to use opposition research as probable cause for a warrant to surveil a US citizen, and not only that, to be allowed to obscure the source and inherent bias of that research.

I guess its going to be pretty hard now for Dems to pretend that the dossier didn't act as probable cause to surveil a US Citizen using FISA, and that Rosenstein didn't hide the fact that the dossier was political research funded by the DNC from the FISC judge.


Can we also stop having posters here claiming Clinton did not pay for the dossier?


She didn't. If you hire a contractor for some work and that contractor hires a sub contractor who hire Chas should you be attacked for hiring a pedophile?


Without a doubt. I handle liability lawsuits. My client gets sued all the time for work it subcontracts out. Do we try to get the sub to pick up our suit? Of course. Does it really matter in the eyes of the plaintiff? Nope.


That's fair.

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MANY republicans start growing a pair when they don't have to count on the Trumpets vote.


To be fair, he says he wants to be a federal litigator again, and saying the underboss of the DOJ should be fired might be an impediment to that ends.

Still, and Gowdy said as much, it is a dangerous precedent for various heads of executive branch law enforcement agencies to be able to use opposition research as probable cause for a warrant to surveil a US citizen, and not only that, to be allowed to obscure the source and inherent bias of that research.

I guess its going to be pretty hard now for Dems to pretend that the dossier didn't act as probable cause to surveil a US Citizen using FISA, and that Rosenstein didn't hide the fact that the dossier was political research funded by the DNC from the FISC judge.


Can we also stop having posters here claiming Clinton did not pay for the dossier?


She didn't. If you hire a contractor for some work and that contractor hires a sub contractor who hire Chas should you be attacked for hiring a pedophile?
of course. We get insurance for our subs subs subs all the time. It's non-negotiable.

edit: someone already expressed this

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The hack Nunes says with a straight face there wasn't proof that the president knew who Papadopoulos was. There is a photo of him in the room with the president and video of the president mentioning him and Carter Page as advisors.

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The hack Nunes says with a straight face there wasn't proof that the president knew who Papadopoulos was. The is a photo of him in the room with the president and video of the president mentioning him as Carter Page as advisors.

You people and your need for 'proof' .... smh ....

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I am not sure how the psychology of board posters always manifests itself but JLN isn't the first that came to mind. If he embraces it though I can't stop him.


Hey I don't like to take personal shots at people.
Lots of people take personal shots and then complain about the state of the board...

Thank you for not being one of them.



Some merely responded to a poster (RPB) that complained about why he decided to take shots at other posters.

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The hack Nunes says with a straight face there wasn't proof that the president knew who Papadopoulos was. The is a photo of him in the room with the president and video of the president mentioning him as Carter Page as advisors.

You people and your need for 'proof' .... smh ....


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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I am not sure how the psychology of board posters always manifests itself but JLN isn't the first that came to mind. If he embraces it though I can't stop him.


Hey I don't like to take personal shots at people.
Lots of people take personal shots and then complain about the state of the board...

Thank you for not being one of them.



Some merely responded to a poster (RPB) that complained about why he decided to take shots at other posters.

Uh....what?



You once asked me to refrain from personal attacks against one of the posters on here and i answered by stating that the person makes things personal. I then proceeded to explain how there are numerous people on here most notably an unnamed fake lawyer who tends to respond with personal attacks. From that it has spawned into some message board "thing" about me whining about personal attacks.

I really don't but i just tired of attempting to hold discussions with guys that had personal agendas.

Its obvious to me who they are and rather than be civil I'm not.

If it "derails" discussions from time to time then so be it.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
pittmike wrote:
I am not sure how the psychology of board posters always manifests itself but JLN isn't the first that came to mind. If he embraces it though I can't stop him.


Hey I don't like to take personal shots at people.
Lots of people take personal shots and then complain about the state of the board...

Thank you for not being one of them.



Some merely responded to a poster (RPB) that complained about why he decided to take shots at other posters.

Uh....what?



You once asked me to refrain from personal attacks against one of the posters on here and i answered by stating that the person makes things personal. I then proceeded to explain how there are numerous people on here most notably an unnamed fake lawyer who tends to respond with personal attacks. From that it has spawned into some message board "thing" about me whining about personal attacks.

I really don't but i just tired of attempting to hold discussions with guys that had personal agendas.

Its obvious to me who they are and rather than be civil I'm not.

If it "derails" discussions from time to time then so be it.


No, that spawned from you complaining about people getting personal with you, and you've exacerbated it by continuing to make unprovoked personal shots at people.


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No it didn't. You are a liar and a hypocrite. Your constant efforts at keeping score on this only underscores the petty way that you tend to go about discussions.

As was the case with the whole doxxing thing and others, you continuously beat stuff into the ground. You drone on well past expiration dates and you refuse to let things go.

As previously stated you have no interest in addressing things in an objective fashion. As such each interaction with you will be of a personal nature. If you seek message board consensus have at it.

At some point during every discussion with you someone will invariably be an idiot, a moron, etc. You typically come out on the losing end of your mundane arguments and its really to the point where most people simply ignore you.

As i stated before you are sort of fucked up. The mere fact that you keep the "personal attack" thing going long after others have moved on says a lot.

My position won't change regardless of how many disagree with me about it. The fact that you told me to "stop posting" though you are quite accepting of the rights of Neo Nazis is as previously stated, quite revealing.

You seem to be seeking the approval of others of like mind (and that covers a tremendous amount of territory) with your repeated attempts to beat a dead horse.

Keep the bullshit spewing because it will only serve to validate who and what you are.

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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.

It's a perfectly cromulent thing to do.

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No it didn't.



Yes, it did.

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The fact that you told me to "stop posting" though you are quite accepting of the rights of Neo Nazis is as previously stated, quite revealing.



1. In the instance that set you off most recently, I merely explained to you why others have told you to stop posting.

2. Congress shall make no law....but why am I quoting that to you? You have an advanced degree in history, you should be quite familiar with that historical document, shouldn't you?


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No it didn't.



Yes, it did.

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The fact that you told me to "stop posting" though you are quite accepting of the rights of Neo Nazis is as previously stated, quite revealing.



1. In the instance that set you off most recently, I merely explained to you why others have told you to stop posting.

2. Congress shall make no law....but why am I quoting that to you? You have an advanced degree in history, you should be quite familiar with that historical document, shouldn't you?



Those were your words. Own it and as i stated earlier your tolerance for Neo Nazis and lack of tolerance for a non descript dude posting on a message board is truly quite revealing.

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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.



Does it mean anything that the Democrats on the Intel committee desperately tried to stop the Nunes memo from seeing the light of day, yet the Republicans on the committee voted unanimously to release Schiff's rebuttal? I hope everyone is really paying attention here.

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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.



Does it mean anything that the Democrats on the Intel committee desperately tried to stop the Nunes memo from seeing the light of day, yet the Republicans on the committee voted unanimously to release Schiff's rebuttal? I hope everyone is really paying attention here.


It's really not hard to figure out why and Nunes said it yesterday. Their memo has been unopposed for a week and the president won't release the democrats memo or he'll take a hatchet to it.

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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.



Does it mean anything that the Democrats on the Intel committee desperately tried to stop the Nunes memo from seeing the light of day, yet the Republicans on the committee voted unanimously to release Schiff's rebuttal? I hope everyone is really paying attention here.

The Democrats wanted each memo released on the same day.

Or, y'know, as a leader of a committee, Nunes should have attempted to reach a consensus memo. What's the point of a committee if everyone is going to release their own conclusions? :lol:


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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.



Does it mean anything that the Democrats on the Intel committee desperately tried to stop the Nunes memo from seeing the light of day, yet the Republicans on the committee voted unanimously to release Schiff's rebuttal? I hope everyone is really paying attention here.

The Democrats wanted each memo released on the same day.

Or, y'know, as a leader of a committee, Nunes should have attempted to reach a consensus memo. What's the point of a committee if everyone is going to release their own conclusions? :lol:



You didn't really address the facts. You just put a spin on them.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.



Does it mean anything that the Democrats on the Intel committee desperately tried to stop the Nunes memo from seeing the light of day, yet the Republicans on the committee voted unanimously to release Schiff's rebuttal? I hope everyone is really paying attention here.

The Democrats wanted each memo released on the same day.

Or, y'know, as a leader of a committee, Nunes should have attempted to reach a consensus memo. What's the point of a committee if everyone is going to release their own conclusions? :lol:



You didn't really address the facts. You just put a spin on them.


You're just being an anti-Demite.

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What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.



Does it mean anything that the Democrats on the Intel committee desperately tried to stop the Nunes memo from seeing the light of day, yet the Republicans on the committee voted unanimously to release Schiff's rebuttal? I hope everyone is really paying attention here.

The Democrats wanted each memo released on the same day.

Or, y'know, as a leader of a committee, Nunes should have attempted to reach a consensus memo. What's the point of a committee if everyone is going to release their own conclusions? :lol:



You didn't really address the facts. You just put a spin on them.

No.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:23 am 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
What this Russia Mueller thing absolutely needed was 2 memos from two extremely partisan guys from each side to reinforce and embiggen the resolve of what everyone already thought.



Does it mean anything that the Democrats on the Intel committee desperately tried to stop the Nunes memo from seeing the light of day, yet the Republicans on the committee voted unanimously to release Schiff's rebuttal? I hope everyone is really paying attention here.


Well, the Republicans had previously voted not to release the Democratic memo at the same meeting they voted to release the Nunes memo. The political motivations here are obvious.

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Nunes and Trump are partners in this big charade. Trump wanted to release the republican memo without even seeing it! Now he has to review the democrat one and think about it before possibly releasing. :lol:

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