I thought the same thing about Maria Bartiromo at the height of the Money Hunny craze. Then I saw how gangly and frighteningly pasty she was in person as well

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That quite likely is true, although a president's actions can have effects. For example, Trump's deregulation and corporate tax cuts have undoubtedly bolstered the market and consumer confidence. But who knows what other forces are at play. The conventional wisdom is that today's drop is due to a combination of higher inflation and the possibility of rising interest rates, but it could just be that the wrong team won the Super Bowl.

In any case, the president has always gotten credit/blame for market performance on his watch. I don't see any reason to stop that simply because many people don't want to credit Trump for anything. Hoover almost certainly wasn't to blame for the Great Depression, but that didn't stop his name from becoming a synonym for homeless encampments.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I agree with your last statement in terms of credit but I do think it’s funny how Obama was painted as being horrible for the economy and Trump is seen as being great for your 401K. The stock market soared, unemployment went down and there was record consecutive job growth under Obama but few would agree if you brought it up at a cocktail party. I guess it helps to sing your own praises.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

The market was trending up steadily. The recent crazy ass rally was a result of Trump's business friendly moves.

So he was responsible for the 20+ insanity and this correction but long term the market will do what it was going to do regardless of who's President.

Imo

Trump sells it better and nothing he says is seen as wrong to his disciples. Trumpets and LeBronites are the worst people to attempt to have a civil discussion with.

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GO BEARS!!!

Here's an interesting fact I just read. I saw a chart with the grade level at which each president spoke from the 20th Century forward. Trump was the lowest at a fourth grade level. Hoover was by far the highest at an 11th grade level. (Obama and Nixon were next at 9th grade.) I think it's pretty likely that people were enraged at what they saw as the pompous speech of Hoover and the opposite is probably true for Trump.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

We now pick presidents based on who we would rather have a drink with. That's been true my entire lifetime.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

My .sig would seem to agree with that assessment.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

That's the late night TVing of the presidency. It started when Bill Clinton played his taxophone on Arsenio.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Or when Dukakis cucked up the rape question.

Happy talk with Uncle Ronnie is forgotten by you now gramps?

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I don't remember Reagan doing much of that type of thing, but Nixon did go on Laugh-In.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Hoover was the Tall Midget of Presidents. Trump is the Beardown.

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I don't remember half the time if I'm hiding or I'm lost

Futures currently down another 600...

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Welp that's better than the -1000 I saw earlier

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Go big or go home. He's got the best collapses.

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Yesterday was a very healthy correction to some very overvalued sectors. Keep your positions strong people and make firm, non-emotional decisions today.

Trump doesn't drink.

Cocaine is a helluva drug, or so I've heard.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Never met a person who has a nose issue that hasn't/doesn't use coke.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Market about to close +500 so.....YUP

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Trump resurrected the economy!

IT'S A MIRACLE!

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It's now Show-Friends Peeps, it's Show-Business. Getting paid $$$$. BuissszzNAS!

Welp there's another -1000 point/4% haircut today. Republican budget/loony-lying executive branch impact?

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

What?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

The market was still very over bloated. All of this is natural and probably good. Heed the storm by staying true to your core principles.

American workers are now being paid "too much" so the market tanks and RR goes full "DRUMPFT HATES THE ECONOMY? LIAR IN CHEEF I S'POSE".

I voted for the guy, but he had nothing to do with the economy, really. For manufacturing, which I'm in, things have been headed downhill since 2002. He did nothing to stop that slide, but really, what could he do. Many idiots voted for Trump because they're out of work, or think they're underpaid.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Denisdman, others and I had a reasoned discussion about the equity markets being wildly over valued months ago. And a laugh at the double talk b.s. coming from financial reporters. But I'm certain it seems to have blown past your croissant tray.

But it seems to me that MANY have suddenly awakened to the septic tank that is currently posing as leadership and found no real fundamentals behind the run up of the last 6-8 months. And no long term planning being offered, even from the sideline guys chirping from the foreign cheap seats.

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There's still some froth in the market to shed. We just want slow, sustained growth until 2040, when we cash out our 401ks before the student loan bubble bursts.