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What were Edwards' numbers facing teams for the second time in a series? Anecdotally, it felt like he struggled the second time around.

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
What were Edwards' numbers facing teams for the second time in a series? Anecdotally, it felt like he struggled the second time around.


Not sure how to find that. Playing around on FG I noticed that his high leverage struggles was in day games and the 2nd half of the season.

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Dude pitched in the clinching inning of the fucking world series. He is fine. His mechanics were off last year.

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Even at a deflated price it puts the value of quintanas contract into perspective

Quintana as the #4 for the next few years is a pretty good feeling! #depth
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You’re an idiot.

I'm curious why you say that ... in regards to his post anyway. I can see one way you might take exception with his posit but it's not at all devoid of truth.

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It was over 45 appearances in High Leverage situations.


Where are you getting that from? I only see 11 innings on Fangraphs and 53 batters faced.


https://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.as ... eason=2017


Baseball Reference splits.
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This Cubs team is good enough to win a ton of games in the regular season but they will have issues in the playoffs because they still don't have a #1 starter. They have 2 solid #2's and 2 borderline #2's and a #4.



Hendricks pitched as well as anyone in the playoffs the last two years.
Lester showed last year he was still able to perform in the playoffs as well.
Quintana had 2 good appearances in the playoffs and 1 really shitty one. I'll take him as a 3...basically could be your 4 all year though.
We'll be fine.

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Cubs have the best "Fab 4" rotation now since Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz/Avery.
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I don't think Lester will be Lester.

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Luckily, going forward Lester is owed only 4/85 million(very affordable and manageable)
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Cubs have the best "Fab 4" rotation now since Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz/Avery.


How many World Series did they win?

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Cubs have the best "Fab 4" rotation now since Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz/Avery.


How many World Series did they win?

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Yay! Another special catcher for a pitcher you don’t have.
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Luckily, going forward Lester is owed only 4/85 million(very affordable and manageable)


That option year hasn't been vested.

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Luckily, going forward Lester is owed only 4/85 million(very affordable and manageable)


That option year hasn't been vested.

It won't be. He has to throw 200 in the last year or 400 in two years. Not gonna happen.
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Cubs have the best "Fab 4" rotation now since Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz/Avery.


How many World Series did they win?

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Yay! Another special catcher for a pitcher you don’t have.

:lol:

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Luckily, going forward Lester is owed only 4/85 million(very affordable and manageable)


That option year hasn't been vested.

It won't be. He has to throw 200 in the last year or 400 in two years. Not gonna happen.


If he didn't throw another pitch he's earned his contract

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Happy to have Yu


Need another dominant bullpen arm to really feel confident.
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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.


That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.
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pittmike wrote:
I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.


That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.


Do you think he is markedly better than Jake? I wouldn't say so. Plus in my opinion he is more likely than Jake to see the DL.

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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

Well if you lose a real good pitcher, best to find another good one to replace him.
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pittmike wrote:
I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

Well if you lose a real good pitcher, best to find another good one to replace him.


Of course. It just seemed a little odd to me that some on the radio were overly excited. I simply viewed it as a one for one. Not shitting on it just an opinion.

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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.


That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.


Closer is still a chink in their armour

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pittmike wrote:
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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

Well if you lose a real good pitcher, best to find another good one to replace him.


Of course. It just seemed a little odd to me that some on the radio were overly excited. I simply viewed it as a one for one. Not shitting on it just an opinion.


I'd rather have had Jake.

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pittmike wrote:
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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.


That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.


Do you think he is markedly better than Jake? I wouldn't say so. Plus in my opinion he is more likely than Jake to see the DL.

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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.

Ace replaced with an ace. Not terrible.

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Cubs have the best "Fab 4" rotation now since Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz/Avery.


How many World Series did they win?


They were unlucky to only win 1. They probably should have had 2 or 3 total.

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This signing is the turning point for the Cubs.


Good or bad?

I think he certainly helps the team in terms of winning their division. But his performance last season in the World Series was about as bad as bad gets. Will he perform well in the big moments, like Jake did over and over? I have some doubt about that.

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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.


That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.


Closer is still a chink in their armour


That is something that will be easy to acquire at the deadline, if it proves to be needed. Teams out of the playoff hunt have greater need for a decent prospect than a closer for a team going nowhere. Maddon has lots of new arms to choose from, it will be interesting to see how the bullpen shakes out.

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I am glad you guys are happy with the signing. From what I can tell really though is you replaced Jake with something like Jake.


That is a pretty pessimistic slant on it.


Since Jake had about as good a run as any Cub in recent history not named Ferguson Jenkins, I would say that is an optimistic slant.

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