What solution do you have to cure all mass killings?

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“Guys, gals, now hear this: No one wants to take away your hunting rifles. No one wants to take away your shotguns. No one wants to take away your revolvers, and no one wants to take away your automatic pistols, as long as said pistols hold no more than ten rounds. If you can't kill a home invader (or your wife, up in the middle of the night to get a snack from the fridge) with ten shots, you need to go back to the local shooting range."

“Semi-automatics have only two purposes. One is so owners can take them to the shooting range once in awhile, yell yeehaw, and get all horny at the rapid fire and the burning vapor spurting from the end of the barrel. Their other use – their only other use – is to kill people."

“The idea that America exists in a culture of violence is bullshit. What America exists in is a culture of Kardashian.”

“We're like drunks in a barroom. No one's listening because everyone is too busy thinking about what they're going to say next, and absolutely prove that the current speaker is so full of shit he squeaks.”

“To claim that America’s “culture of violence” is responsible for school shootings is tantamount to cigarette company executives declaring that environmental pollution is the chief cause of lung cancer.”

-Stephen King, "Guns."

In the hunting world generally a weapon is limited by magazine or plug to only load up to 3-5 shots. You could ban any loading mechanism larger than that without taking the lawful users of weapons use away.

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Ya, it's why my brother has one.

I believe I said that in specific reference to that individual. The good boy, who didn't do nothing.

And Chicago street violence alone claims more lives every year than all school shootings combined. You just can't be bothered to give a shit about Chicago street violence because as long as it's the negroes and Mexicans killing each other you're cool with it. School shootings are high profile and make for great TV, but they pale in comparison to street crime.

Identify and somehow deal with people with that propensity beforehand. I already mentioned limit total capacity of magazines.

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This is not true.

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What is the other purpose?

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Mental health facilities are rarely covered by insurance.

There has been a cost cutting fueled deinstitutionalization the last decade not seen since the Reagan years.

Prisons are the new psychiatric facilities.

Plus antidepressants for the wrong people make homicidal urges more prevalent.

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/30/567477160/how-the-loss-of-u-s-psychiatric-hospitals-led-to-a-mental-health-crisis

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this is a strange argument coming from you

You disagree with what?

You think access to these guns is not a reason for the spike in Mass shootings? Really?

Do you believe this young man should have been able to purchase an AR-15? If not, how would you propose stopping him?

If you wanted to do something serious about gun deaths you'd criminalize handguns, which are definitely much more dangerous and claim many times over the amount of lives than the spooky AR-15. I could actually get behind that, but its really all about image and glocks aren't really that scary looking so I'm probably not going to find much support.

Also, the reason the pro-guns refuse to cede any ground is they are acutely aware that the long-term goal is to just repeal the 2A and ban all guns. Granting any incremental progress or momentum towards that goal brings the day it happens that much closer. They are 100% correct too, you dont have to look very hard to see that the ideological core of the left wants to ban guns as part of their great culture war.

Just one would be competitive shooting which most certainly is not yelling yee haw and rapid firing at beer cans. Look, semi-automatic to me is just a buzzword to me people latch onto. It is really meaningless. Full auto should scare many as well as what I mentioned before about magazine capacity.

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Look just simplify it with another killing method and ask yourself the same question. Is the reason a mad man drives a semi truck into a mall full of people because there was a truck or because he was deranged?

As for this guy I am not sure. I am certain of a couple of things though. He was legally old enough to buy the weapon. He showed signs of trouble and even the FBI was contacted on him. Lastly, systems should have been in place that made that aware so he was refused the sale of the gun.

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So it really isn't just guns. Cool. Now fix all of it.

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What?

You're a crazy person.

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So, instead of banning the weapon that they often use, you want to scan people for a propensity for violence and lock them up?

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You just now are coming to this realization?

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It is a weird thing to me that society attempts one solution of another or consider that more than one fix is needed.

I do own guns, I am NOT an NRA member and I feel terrible when these incidences occur. I simply believe that banning some scary looking weapon that is not functionally different than many others is wrong.

This problem has many causes and without addressing all of them it is a waste of time. People feel they want to do something now. That is not the answer here.

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You're being an idiot. The mentally deranged identify themselves. In almost all of these cases people say that guy was off and strange. In this case specifically the fucking FBI was called.

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The biggest reason to repeal the 2A is if these continue to be an unsolvable problem with extreme resistance to any new legislation about it. If the gun lobby wants to fight any small incremental change then they set themselves up for enough people getting tired of it and changing the "living document" of the Constitution.

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There are hundreds of thousands of people who fit the same profile as this guy. Should we lock them up today?

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There is no way that there are "hundreds of thousands" of teenagers who have been expelled from school, and have posted messages online about being a 'professional killer,' and shooting up schools and killing law enforcement officers as this guy did.

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If people really cared about gun homicides they would be more concerned with handguns. rifles and other long guns account ~3% of annual gun homicides. Literally a drop in the bucket.

Besides, weapons like the AR-15 are the type of weapon needed for the 2nd Amendment to work as intended. It's purpose is to ensure we can adequately repel a tyrannical government, and weapons such as the AR-15 have already proven this capability. Just look at the Bundy Ranch Standoff in Nevada a few years back.

Try to limit magazine sizes, it's useless since they are now very easily 3D printed. Also good luck trying to ban AR-15s when we can now mill them in a garage or basement and actually find it cheaper than buying new by the time we get to the 3rd or 4th weapon.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

An idea that's been building momentum among a certain segment of people is to equip more people with guns to prevent mass killings.

Time to reopen the loony bins and, while we are at it, go back to 3 strikes and you're out for the losers who refuse to stay out of jail.

As I said school have a security budget,what is it being spent on in most schools? Parents need to be asking questions.This kind of thing,kids shooting up other kids, is I think a by product of the every child is special give hem a trophy culture. They can;t handle facing the fact that they are not the best in the world so they lash out.Suzie won't go to prom with you so go shoot up the library.Jocks pick on you shoot up the cafeteria.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

are guns are the only way to overthrow tyrannical governments?

The Bundys are snowflakes who should be in jail.

Go read just about any popular youtube video and you'll see tons of comments that would indicate the person is "dangerous". Social media networks are hiring hundreds or thousands of people to just read these comments and either delete them and/or report them.

Now, maybe the expelled part isn't always there but many of these school shootings don't have that either. It's loner kids who like guns. There are hundreds of thousands of those kids around.

However, even if it's one thousand kids who have been expelled from school, and have posted violent messages online, should we lock them all up?

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