If people really cared about gun homicides they would be more concerned with handguns. rifles and other long guns account ~3% of annual gun homicides. Literally a drop in the bucket.

Besides, weapons like the AR-15 are the type of weapon needed for the 2nd Amendment to work as intended. It's purpose is to ensure we can adequately repel a tyrannical government, and weapons such as the AR-15 have already proven this capability. Just look at the Bundy Ranch Standoff in Nevada a few years back.

Try to limit magazine sizes, it's useless since they are now very easily 3D printed. Also good luck trying to ban AR-15s when we can now mill them in a garage or basement and actually find it cheaper than buying new by the time we get to the 3rd or 4th weapon.

Besides, weapons like the AR-15 are the type of weapon needed for the 2nd Amendment to work as intended. It's purpose is to ensure we can adequately repel a tyrannical government, and weapons such as the AR-15 have already proven this capability. Just look at the Bundy Ranch Standoff in Nevada a few years back.

are guns are the only way to overthrow tyrannical governments?

Besides, weapons like the AR-15 are the type of weapon needed for the 2nd Amendment to work as intended. It's purpose is to ensure we can adequately repel a tyrannical government, and weapons such as the AR-15 have already proven this capability. Just look at the Bundy Ranch Standoff in Nevada a few years back.

If you wanted to do something serious about gun deaths you'd criminalize handguns, which are definitely much more dangerous and claim many times over the amount of lives than the spooky AR-15. I could actually get behind that, but its really all about image and glocks aren't really that scary looking so I'm probably not going to find much support.

Also, the reason the pro-guns refuse to cede any ground is they are acutely aware that the long-term goal is to just repeal the 2A and ban all guns. Granting any incremental progress or momentum towards that goal brings the day it happens that much closer. They are 100% correct too, you dont have to look very hard to see that the ideological core of the left wants to ban guns as part of their great culture war.

There is no way that there are "hundreds of thousands" of teenagers who have been expelled from school, and have posted messages online about being a 'professional killer,' and shooting up schools and killing law enforcement officers as this guy did.

are guns are the only way to overthrow tyrannical governments?

There is no way that there are "hundreds of thousands" of teenagers who have been expelled from school, and have posted messages online about being a 'professional killer,' and shooting up schools and killing law enforcement officers as this guy did.

Go read just about any popular youtube video and you'll see tons of comments that would indicate the person is "dangerous". Social media networks are hiring hundreds or thousands of people to just read these comments and either delete them and/or report them.

Now, maybe the expelled part isn't always there but many of these school shootings don't have that either. It's loner kids who like guns. There are hundreds of thousands of those kids around.

However, even if it's one thousand kids who have been expelled from school, and have posted violent messages online, should we lock them all up?

YouTube reportedly reported the kid's comments to the FBI yet he passed the b/g check to get a gun. The FBI screwed up here.

The school put a notice out he was not allowed on campus with a backpack, yet he passed the b/g check to get a gun. Why didn't the school report him to the Feds?

The kid had 200 followers on his social media page. Kids were not surprised that he would shoot up the school. Yet, no one reported him.

Seems like many people allowed this kid to slip through the cracks and now 17 kids are dead.

Go read just about any popular youtube video and you'll see tons of comments that would indicate the person is "dangerous".

Go read just about any popular youtube video and you'll see tons of comments that would indicate the person is "dangerous". Social media networks are hiring hundreds or thousands of people to just read these comments and either delete them and/or report them.

Now, maybe the expelled part isn't always there but many of these school shootings don't have that either. It's loner kids who like guns. There are hundreds of thousands of those kids around.

However, even if it's one thousand kids who have been expelled from school, and have posted violent messages online, should we lock them all up?

Let's see, that totals YouTube, school administrators, and social media followers as all people who you think should have the effective ability to stop someone from buying a firearm by their reports causing a failed background check, is that right?

You wanted 3 felonies = life sentence. That's a major change.

Your posts in this thread are far different. Why is that?

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Besides, weapons like the AR-15 are the type of weapon needed for the 2nd Amendment to work as intended. It's purpose is to ensure we can adequately repel a tyrannical government, and weapons such as the AR-15 have already proven this capability. Just look at the Bundy Ranch Standoff in Nevada a few years back.

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Besides, weapons like the AR-15 are the type of weapon needed for the 2nd Amendment to work as intended. It's purpose is to ensure we can adequately repel a tyrannical government, and weapons such as the AR-15 have already proven this capability. Just look at the Bundy Ranch Standoff in Nevada a few years back.

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If you wanted to do something serious about gun deaths you'd criminalize handguns, which are definitely much more dangerous and claim many times over the amount of lives than the spooky AR-15. I could actually get behind that, but its really all about image and glocks aren't really that scary looking so I'm probably not going to find much support.

Also, the reason the pro-guns refuse to cede any ground is they are acutely aware that the long-term goal is to just repeal the 2A and ban all guns. Granting any incremental progress or momentum towards that goal brings the day it happens that much closer. They are 100% correct too, you dont have to look very hard to see that the ideological core of the left wants to ban guns as part of their great culture war.

0.0000000001 % chance it will happen but if it did...0% chance you as a citizen are putting up an defense against the military.

0.0000000001 % chance it will happen but if it did...0% chance you as a citizen are putting up an defense against the military.

If they wanted to, the government could have erased Bundy and his pals from existence in about 2 seconds.

The biggest reason to repeal the 2A is if these continue to be an unsolvable problem with extreme resistance to any new legislation about it. If the gun lobby wants to fight any small incremental change then they set themselves up for enough people getting tired of it and changing the "living document" of the Constitution.

So our rights are now conditional based on the probability that we could effectively...use them? That doesn't sound like a good approach.

0.0000000001 % chance it will happen but if it did...0% chance you as a citizen are putting up an defense against the military.

If they wanted to, the government could have erased Bundy and his pals from existence in about 2 seconds.

Goat fuckers with old Soviet shit have stymied the USA for over a decade in Afghanistan. An F-22 can't stand on a street corner.