You were happy when someone tried to shoot up the NSA huh?

This gets back to something that I posted in a different thread.

The reason you are such a fervent defender of the 2nd amendment is that you view things through a prism of violence. That's your solution to things. The 2nd amendment is predicated on violence against other persons, justifiable or not. It's an amendment centered around permissible access to instruments of violence.

This is you. You don't rant about restrictions on the 1st amendment, you don't rant about restrictions on the 6th amendment, both of which have vastly more restrictions on them than the 2nd amendment. You don't care as much about those amendments because they aren't inherently about violence.

You're the same guy who continues to repeat that the 2nd amendment is "The" firewall against tyranny. NO, it's not. That's just your view, because you view violence as the answer. If you asked Martin Luther King what the firewall against tyranny was, he'd tell you the 1st amendment. This is who you are, someone who views the world through a prism of violence, and violence as the first solution to use.

Happy that someone tried to shoot up the NSA? You're honestly a sick person, but again, this is your worldview, violence as the answer. If you don't like the NSA, here are some options.

1. Work to expose the NSA for the abusive organization you think it is. You can use freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech to achieve these goals.
2. Become violent against the NSA.

Your option is #2 because that is who you are, a violent person. Maybe you've always been this way, maybe you have anger issues. Maybe you should save a few bucks on the next pointless gun you are going to buy and seek some therapy.

Honestly, you are sick individual. Fucking sick.

Rural understanding of urban America is really no better.

I concur.

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I think I get what you and Hatchet are saying. All liberals should be in city fortresses with an overlord, like Dennis Hopper in Land of the Dead. Then conservatives can wander about aimlessly throughout the rest of the country as zombies. I am with you on that.

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That was a terrible fucking movie.

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I can give you a long answer or a short answer. I'll give you the short answer for now, but if you want, I will also give you the long one.

You can call me violent if you want, but I have never committed an act of violence, I do not ever intend to commit an act of violence, and I would be very happy to see that continue the rest of my life. I do however believe I reserve the right to do so in defense of my life, liberty, and property if so threatened. I do also believe that the collective ability of millions of Americans to own firearms serves as a larger deterrent against further abuses.

As for exposing the NSA, ask Mr. Snowden how that worked out and tell me if you honestly think he changed how they operate.

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Without the 2nd amendment some of the other ones are easily taken away.

Which ones?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I only thought you were because you talk out your ass so much here on legal issues and most of it is awful (which the legal community is not necessarily immune to). Now I know to completely discount your BS.

Here is a report on what purportedly exactly here: https://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/the-fbi-was-warned-about-a-school-shooting-threat-from?utm_term=.gmALJOBxD#.ou6EV56O0 Yeah, the FBI screwed the pooch.

Yeah. Dennis Hopper was the only good thing about that movie.

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So "stuff I disagree with". Thanks, counsel.



Nothing in there details how reporting something to the FBI pertains to a background check for purchasing a firearm. That is, unless you mean that a YouTube comment from an account sharing the name of the shooter should have shown up in a background check of the shooter, and disqualified him from purchasing a firearm, to which I reply:



What exactly happened here that should have shown up on a background check? You profess to know, but so far have shown nothing. I hope you don't practice this way, maybe that's why you come off as so frustrated and indignant?

No, it would not shock me. However, one would think you would be more outspoken against the IDF and the Israeli government if you were to apply your anti-cop, anti-US military, anti-Spain and pro-Bundy logic that I've seen. I'll concede that maybe you are and I have not seen it (as I am not a regular here), but I have not seen it here where it could have included it in some of your posts.

I'm no fan of Netanyahu and feel Israel would be better off without him (and may soon get that wish). I'd happily discuss this further on another thread if you want.

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I am curious as well.

I would not go that far. Just explains what I have been wasting my time reading off and on when here.

Let's see, you have the FBI receiving a report about a guy threatening to shoot up a school. They work with the locals to press charges (just like what apparently happened here with some kid who made comments online after this). If the press charges where where imprisonment is more than a year, that shows up in the b/g check and stops a purchase in FLA. Or, the FBI does a modicum of investigating, they find he was, apparently, seeking treatment from a mental health facility, abusing animals, making other wacked out statements and he has issues at the school, they work with the locals to seek a protective order to keep him away from the schools. That shows up in the b/g check and stops the purchase.

I'll give you the short answer, you are a sick violence obsessed person.

You said you were "happy" that someone shot up the NSA. That's someone who glorifies and revels in violence against the innocent. You are a sick human being.

The NSA is comprised of mothers, fathers, single mothers, grandmothers, innocent people with innocent aspirations to go to work that day, do the job they were hired to do, and go home. You are happy that someone shot up these people.

That is the short answer, you are a violent sick fuck.

It pours out in your obsession with the 2nd amendment, these fanciful armed conflicts with the US government, this hypothetical war against the state that you and the other violence obsessed ultra minority in this country harp on. Guns control isn't an issue that will cost the democrats the election any more than it wins elections for the GOP. You perceive it as a major issue because of the places you frequent and like minded violence obsessed people you communicate with.

Bitch please. You "TYRANNY!!" people spent 8 year crying about it and never rose up with your muskets. All it is is a talking point.

I agree with you on those points. I may not agree on some of the others, but it's good.

If you are a white American who does not have an exit strategy to another foreign country you should definitely own and familiarize yourself with an AR-15 or similar weapon.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

He just wants a race war so badly that he moved to a country that's far more likely to have one than the US.

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I'm just saying have a contingency.

Feel free to point out any specific inaccuracies you see either on the board or via PM. I enjoy learning.




They did investigate, and they said they couldn't identify the owner of the account (Leaving aside for a moment whether an account in your name is enough to presume it is actually "you"):



In reality, nothing really happened that should have shown up on a background check but did not, instead you're saying the FBI should have investigated and attempted to prosecute the user of that YouTube account for that comment—Using warrantless NSA prism-type stuff I'm guessing —and if it was indeed belonging to the shooter, he then would been disqualified if the act was felonious, or if the school would have gotten protective order against him. Of course you're right the downstream effect of disqualification during a background check would have happened, given those things, but this is far from the FBI "botch" you're painting it as.

That doesn't sound a whole lot like "more than enough". Sounds instead like a lot of things needed to happen, and in the right order, in order for this to show up on the guy's background check.

I'm going to defer to JLN or America on this, but do you think the White Nationalist group would be willing to open up their database for background checks? Have they discussed it when you have been at the meetings?

When did you stop beating your wife?

I have a feeling there are a lot of delusional Hispanics making up most of these white nationalist groups. Lauren Southern's orbiters hardly look like the Wehrmacht.

I don't have to. It's part of the President's new tax bill, nested in there.

Speech & assembly, search & seizure, voting. And I didn't say they would be but that they could be. I think it's poignant that it is the 2nd one. The first was rights to live freely and the second was a way for them to ensure and defend the first.

I see it as more of a social issue anyway. Germany & Switzerland have a high rate of guns per person but fairly low homicide rate. Countries with low gun ownership and high crime are Britain & Mexico. japan and China have strict gun control and low crime but I'm not interested in being China or other countries like it. We have high guns/high crime. There are thousands of responsible gun owners. Our issue seems to be the mentally ill and social conditions.