People react differently when those who are killed are killed by an agent of the government rather than by some loon.

This is both on the left and the right. Just look at the reaction when someone is gunned down by police. There is often real anger and violence that follows. I don't condemn such violence as I can certainly understand where the anger comes from when the cop gets off without even being charged in a case where the shooting is at best questionable and at worst cold blooded murder.

Heck, there has been actual blowback to such cases. See Dallas. I'd argue that was blowback in the exact same way Oklahoma City was blowback to Waco

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Take a couple steps back.
First they started shooting up the compound before the actual warrant was even legally presented and served.
Second,They shot first
Third,they shot a guy in the back ,several times trying to run to cover and just for good measure they walked up on him and gave him a 9mm double tap to the head and then left him laying in a ditch for several days.
Fourth, If they really wanted to do this in a peaceable and calm manner, Grab Koresh when he was in town walking or running. Then d0on't let the media set up 4 hours before the raid.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I don't understand why so many people this board have a penchant for defending child rape(Nassar, Waco). Koresh admitted to sleeping with 13 year old girls..you do realize that? That's reason enough to bust up the joint.

Then why wasn't there an FBI warrant for that?

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Well we know why Chas does.

Who gives a fuck, they were pedo's

Well they sure shoot a lot of unarmed citizens because they fear for their lives.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It is Bob but if you knew like the govt did that these guys where pretty well armed. You do it in ways that minimize the potential for mass gun play. You don't ride into town with cops in Horse trailers in body armor and looking like stormtroopers from History channel . Face it, this was basically the Us govt replaying Custers Last stand.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Bottom line, cite another example other than David Koresh for your gun arguments. (PSA).

You know I am a fuck up we know that okay but fuck you okay pal. We adults are trying to have a civil talk. Go play in traffic

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Gun nuts threatening to kill everyone if they don't get their way is a great reason to want tighter gun control.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

They do that even when they know the citizen is not carrying a gun so taking guns away from citizens will not end cop shootings. They will just say they fear the suspect because he had a knife. CPD is currently dealing with such a high profile case.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Ruby Ridge.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Ruby Ridge would be a prime example. The government paid out millions in settlement dollars after that one.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

We're not talking about cops here. We are talking about somebody walking to a school and slaughtering MANY people.

This isn't a left or right issue. It's a gun person issue. You people try to turn it into "well X won't work because of Y" and then that's it. There are countless measures, laws, and practices in place to lessen these murders, and the calls of "Never apologize. Never surrender. Never negotiate." Is the biggest problem as to why things won't change and why this continues to happen. It's not because of laws or politicians, its because of people like you that these mass shootings continue to occur. If you are OK with the blood on your hands that's fine, but don't try to deny it.

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Is that you saying you've had enough? You can knock your pot shots off at me anytime. That's the only reason I've gone after your pedo ass today.

It's almost always they thought they had a gun.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I'm not sure if Adolph Hilter supports the Government better not underestimate the ability of it's citizens to rise against them narrative.

I'm somewhat open to restrictions on hand guns as they are the weapon of choice for the vast majority of homicides. The rifles we talk so much about are less than 3% of homicides and are also the type of weapon most useful for repelling tyranny. If you really cared about gun violence you'd leave the AR-15 alone and look at Glocks and similar weapons.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

He had a famous quote along the lines of the first step in taking over a society is in disarming it

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

And disarm him he did. With ease.

And there it is. Tyranny This isn't the fucking Dark Ages, man.

Stop changing the argument. I am not talking about cops or handguns. I am talking about the readily available assault rifles which are being used to blow away innocent victims in mere seconds. Unless you are in the military or on a police force, these weapons are not needed. Period.

For you to say they are means you are problem here.

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Okay are M-1 Garands okay? Or M-1 Carbines. Both single shot from WW2. What about collectors are they okay?
The thing with the mental health side that people talk about is that yes medication makes people stable. The problem is staying on the medications. Because of the ACLU and other liberal agenda type shit you can not force someone to take meds,cry all about Regan for defunding the hospitals but it is the dems who made it so people can not be forced to take meds.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Did you use wine coolers or candy to disarm them?

Holy fuck Chas. What you listed are basically hunting rifles, and guns that you see on Pawn Stars.

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The M-1 Garand with 2 simple modifications and hillbilly can do in his garage make it fully auto and accept a 20 round magazine same as an AR-15. So once again you need to learn somewhat of the topic if you are going to speak on it.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

There are gun nuts, and then there are gun nerds.

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And this is illegal. So move along, Betty.

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Jerry: Nice shotgun.

Cop: Thanks.

Jerry: Clean as a whistle.

George: You could eat of that shotgun.

Jerry: What is that, a 12 gauge?

Cop: Yeah.

Jerry: 12 gauge. Seems to be the most popular gauge.

George: My favorite.

Jerry: Mine too, love the 12 gauge.

George: Makes the 11 gauge look like a cap pistol.

Who threatened to kill everyone?

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