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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:53 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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I'll say this for the guy...he believed what he preached. He wasn't on TV to be a superstar, or make mounds of money.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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ah the board idiot makes his appearance.

Hey you didn't call me a bigot! Progress!

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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You're a bigot and idiot. Happy?

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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Hatchetman wrote:
You're a bigot and idiot. Happy?

"bigiot"?


'Charlatan' is a perfectly cromulent word ... sham, fraud, hoaxster. It's much easier, and appropriately, affixed to Trump but in his own way ol' Bill earned a deferential usage of the term in regards to him.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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You're a bigot and idiot. Happy?

What did I say that was wrong?

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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virtually everything you say is wrong. just like you accused me of voting for Trump. you have a real talent.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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virtually everything you say is wrong. just like you accused me of voting for Trump. you have a real talent.

I was joking about you being dumb enough to donate to Billy Graham. Your reaction though makes me think you may have.

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Good man, but Graham was lucky to have 1/2 the Evangelical career of Old Navy Preacher.


You can’t get to heaven dying....never mind.


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I think I know who is going to fill his shoes.

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Say it with me bitch!

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He was still alive? Wow...


Same here. The guy who wrote most of his NY Times obit died in 2002.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/obit ... -dead.html

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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I'll say this for the guy...he believed what he preached. He wasn't on TV to be a superstar, or make mounds of money.

Yeah. To compare him to others is bad. He was as genuine as any religious figure we have seen for awhile.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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RFDC wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
I'll say this for the guy...he believed what he preached. He wasn't on TV to be a superstar, or make mounds of money.

Yeah. To compare him to others is bad. He was as genuine as any religious figure we have seen for awhile.


Genuine? Really?

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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Nas wrote:
RFDC wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
I'll say this for the guy...he believed what he preached. He wasn't on TV to be a superstar, or make mounds of money.

Yeah. To compare him to others is bad. He was as genuine as any religious figure we have seen for awhile.


Genuine? Really?

What is there about him that is not genuine?

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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I'll say this for the guy...he believed what he preached. He wasn't on TV to be a superstar, or make mounds of money.

Yeah. To compare him to others is bad. He was as genuine as any religious figure we have seen for awhile.


Genuine? Really?

What is there about him that is not genuine?


Beyond Bible pimping? The way he would mix politics and religion to fit whatever point he was trying to make.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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He was not a perfect man, no one is.

But to call him a pimp and make it seem like he was motivated by political gain is just wrong.

He got too involved with Nixon during the 70s to which he regretted later in life.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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City of Fools wrote:
I'll say this for the guy...he believed what he preached. He wasn't on TV to be a superstar, or make mounds of money.

Yeah. To compare him to others is bad. He was as genuine as any religious figure we have seen for awhile.


Genuine? Really?

What is there about him that is not genuine?


Beyond Bible pimping? The way he would mix politics and religion to fit whatever point he was trying to make.


how did he advance himself? what did he get out of it?

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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He was not a perfect man, no one is.

But to call him a pimp and make it seem like he was motivated by political gain is just wrong.

He got too involved with Nixon during the 70s to which he regretted later in life.


I'm not saying that he had to be a perfect man. I don't know of a televangelist that wasn't motivated by power and money. They all used the faith of others to take their money. I despise ANYONE who uses God to swindle others. It really boils my blood. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.

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City of Fools wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
RFDC wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
I'll say this for the guy...he believed what he preached. He wasn't on TV to be a superstar, or make mounds of money.

Yeah. To compare him to others is bad. He was as genuine as any religious figure we have seen for awhile.


Genuine? Really?

What is there about him that is not genuine?


Beyond Bible pimping? The way he would mix politics and religion to fit whatever point he was trying to make.


how did he advance himself? what did he get out of it?

https://billygraham.org/give/give-online/

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RFDC wrote:
He was not a perfect man, no one is.

But to call him a pimp and make it seem like he was motivated by political gain is just wrong.

He got too involved with Nixon during the 70s to which he regretted later in life.


Well said. I wish my fellow board members could accept Jesus into their hearts.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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I don't know of a televangelist that wasn't motivated by power and money. They all used the faith of others to take their money. I despise ANYONE who uses God to swindle others. It really boils my blood. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.


OK so you despise all religions pretty much (don't know of any that don't take donations). That's fine. Can't argue with that.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Yeah. To compare him to others is bad. He was as genuine as any religious figure we have seen for awhile.


Genuine? Really?

What is there about him that is not genuine?


Beyond Bible pimping? The way he would mix politics and religion to fit whatever point he was trying to make.


how did he advance himself? what did he get out of it?

https://billygraham.org/give/give-online/

I'm as spurious as the next guy about any televangelist. But you never heard about him living in opulence, like Creflo, Paisley, Meyers, Swaggarts, Olsteen, list goes on.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Graham
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I don't know of a televangelist that wasn't motivated by power and money. They all used the faith of others to take their money. I despise ANYONE who uses God to swindle others. It really boils my blood. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.


OK so you despise all religions pretty much (don't know of any that don't take donations). That's fine. Can't argue with that.

Actual religions are different than a guy enriching and celebrating himself either directly or indirectly.

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I'm as spurious as the next guy about any televangelist. But you never heard about him living in opulence, like Creflo, Paisley, Meyers, Swaggarts, Olsteen, list goes on.


Saying that he wasn't as bad as others doesn't exactly change anything unless I compared him to Jimmy and others.

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How is it that Pat Robertson seems to have outlived this guy?

Wait...is Pat Robertson still alive?

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How is it that Pat Robertson seems to have outlived this guy?


I wonder if it has anything to do with that fact that Robertson is 12 years younger than Graham? Just spit balling.


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I wish all the board members would listen to Dr. Graham and give their lives to Christ. It might make for a better message board.

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I wish all the board members would listen to Dr. Graham and give their lives to Christ. It might make for a better message board.

He likely found out he was wrong. He must feel dumb.

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I wish all the board members would listen to Dr. Graham and give their lives to Christ. It might make for a better message board.

He likely found out he was wrong. He must feel dumb.

Likely? Does that mean you are not sure he was wrong?

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I wish all the board members would listen to Dr. Graham and give their lives to Christ. It might make for a better message board.

He likely found out he was wrong. He must feel dumb.

Likely? Does that mean you are not sure he was wrong?
Only God and Seacrest know for sure.

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