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I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.



No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.



No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates

Bad take.

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.

But between the two of us, it looks like I'm the one that has what I want.

Calling me a bully as you try to be one. Hilarious.

Guys like you will always be jealous of guys like me. You will never admit it. But we both know.

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.



No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates

Bad take.



Not really

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.



No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates


MANY don't have any issue with it because they benefit "traditional" American companies. MANY didn't have an issue with the individual subsidies when they exclusively benefitted "traditional" Americans. They started complaining when "others" started using these programs.

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MANY don't have any issue with it because they benefit "traditional" American companies. MANY didn't have an issue with the individual subsidies when they exclusively benefitted "traditional" Americans. They started complaining when "others" started using these programs.

Yes we used to subsidize companies that built the parts for machines that were to push us beyond the final frontier of space. Now we have to feed, clothe and satisfy parts of the word that have stubbornly rejected civilized society for two millennia.

Hopefully we get back to valuing our accomplishments again. I'm not holding my breath.


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IMU wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.

But between the two of us, it looks like I'm the one that has what I want.

Calling me a bully as you try to be one. Hilarious.

Guys like you will always be jealous of guys like me. You will never admit it. But we both know.


Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'd sooner be the guy shitting on Lower Whacker than you.

You are a bully. You picked on an autistic kid. I'm just telling what you are: a weasel beta male bitch.

I have a great quality life/education thanks to the country I love and am proud of.

Sorry I don't want to roll over and let liberals turn it over to the gay trans disabled POC

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America wrote:
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MANY don't have any issue with it because they benefit "traditional" American companies. MANY didn't have an issue with the individual subsidies when they exclusively benefitted "traditional" Americans. They started complaining when "others" started using these programs.

Yes we used to subsidize companies that built the parts for machines that were to push us beyond the final frontier of space. Now we have to feed, clothe and satisfy parts of the word that have stubbornly rejected civilized society for two millennia.

Hopefully we get back to valuing our accomplishments again. I'm not holding my breath.


We're currently subsidizing people that park their money in offshore bank accounts and tax shelters.

This country is also subsidizing clowns like our current President. Corporate bankruptcy laws are nothing more than a Government subsidy program for rich white men. It helps socialize the risks while privatizing the profits.

That is the dirty little secret that hypocrites and apologists are loathe to talk about however. If it was truly about a free market system guys like Trump would have been popped financially years ago.

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America wrote:
Nas wrote:
MANY don't have any issue with it because they benefit "traditional" American companies. MANY didn't have an issue with the individual subsidies when they exclusively benefitted "traditional" Americans. They started complaining when "others" started using these programs.

Yes we used to subsidize companies that built the parts for machines that were to push us beyond the final frontier of space. Now we have to feed, clothe and satisfy parts of the word that have stubbornly rejected civilized society for two millennia.

Hopefully we get back to valuing our accomplishments again. I'm not holding my breath.


We're currently subsidizing people that park their money in offshore bank accounts and tax shelters.

This country is also subsidizing clowns like our current President. Corporate bankruptcy laws are nothing more than a Government subsidy program for rich white men. It helps socialize the risks while privatizing the profits.

That is the dirty little secret that hypocrites and apologists are loathe to talk about however. If it was truly about a free market system guys like Trump would have been popped financially years ago.


Nas I agree there are inefficiency, abuses, gift and flaws in this system.

The issue is that the type of liberals in the OP don't want to reform or fix the system.

They want to throw it out and adopt cultural Marxism and socialism. The people don't take pride in blackness. The instead see it as a disability and currency. Same for Latinos and LGBT

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
long time guy wrote:
America wrote:
Nas wrote:
MANY don't have any issue with it because they benefit "traditional" American companies. MANY didn't have an issue with the individual subsidies when they exclusively benefitted "traditional" Americans. They started complaining when "others" started using these programs.

Yes we used to subsidize companies that built the parts for machines that were to push us beyond the final frontier of space. Now we have to feed, clothe and satisfy parts of the word that have stubbornly rejected civilized society for two millennia.

Hopefully we get back to valuing our accomplishments again. I'm not holding my breath.


We're currently subsidizing people that park their money in offshore bank accounts and tax shelters.

This country is also subsidizing clowns like our current President. Corporate bankruptcy laws are nothing more than a Government subsidy program for rich white men. It helps socialize the risks while privatizing the profits.

That is the dirty little secret that hypocrites and apologists are loathe to talk about however. If it was truly about a free market system guys like Trump would have been popped financially years ago.


Nas I agree there are inefficiency, abuses, gift and flaws in this system.

The issue is that the type of liberals in the OP don't want to reform or fix the system.

They want to throw it out and adopt cultural Marxism and socialism. The people don't take pride in blackness. The instead see it as a disability and currency. Same for Latinos and LGBT


To be honest TM it depends on how you look at it. There has always been two schools of thought on the whole black separatist thing. I will read the piece before really commenting. From the quotes i kind of have an idea what they are talking about though. Might be wrong.

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
long time guy wrote:
America wrote:
Nas wrote:
MANY don't have any issue with it because they benefit "traditional" American companies. MANY didn't have an issue with the individual subsidies when they exclusively benefitted "traditional" Americans. They started complaining when "others" started using these programs.

Yes we used to subsidize companies that built the parts for machines that were to push us beyond the final frontier of space. Now we have to feed, clothe and satisfy parts of the word that have stubbornly rejected civilized society for two millennia.

Hopefully we get back to valuing our accomplishments again. I'm not holding my breath.


We're currently subsidizing people that park their money in offshore bank accounts and tax shelters.

This country is also subsidizing clowns like our current President. Corporate bankruptcy laws are nothing more than a Government subsidy program for rich white men. It helps socialize the risks while privatizing the profits.

That is the dirty little secret that hypocrites and apologists are loathe to talk about however. If it was truly about a free market system guys like Trump would have been popped financially years ago.


Nas I agree there are inefficiency, abuses, gift and flaws in this system.

The issue is that the type of liberals in the OP don't want to reform or fix the system.

They want to throw it out and adopt cultural Marxism and socialism. The people don't take pride in blackness. The instead see it as a disability and currency. Same for Latinos and LGBT


To be honest TM it depends on how you look at it. There has always been two schools of thought on the whole black separatist thing. I will read the piece before really commenting. From the quotes i kind of have an idea what they are talking about though. Might be wrong.


Fair enough. I defer to your lived experience and education

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:21 pm 
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long time guy wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.



No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates

Bad take.

Ok then let's get rid of all corporate tax breaks also known as corporate welfare. Starting right now.

Still think it's bad take?


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FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.



No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates

Bad take.

Ok then let's get rid of all corporate tax breaks also known as corporate welfare. Starting right now.

Still think it's bad take?


Sure. Lets also end offshore corporate funds.

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Germany spent like 5 years playing nice with Muslims before they realized how huge a mistake it was.

The USA has spent over a century now begging blacks to get their fucking shit together and has responded to their consistent failure to do so as being the fault of white people. So much so that blacks are actually self-segregating themselves because they have fed such a gargantuan plate full of blatant lies. And lets get real, the only hispanics showing up to this shit are going 2nd and 3rd generation who refer to themselves at latinx, are A2 Spanish speakers and basically just view their ethnicity as social currency.



I have to admit some part of this makes sense in my head which disturbs me.

America - how about the Korean, Indian, and Russian Jews that have come here in the last 30-40 years? Looks like they’re doing the best in the US. Even better than us whites. When I visited my old neighborhood in Skokie last years, these ppl seemed to own all the nice homes driving around in their beemers and mercs. Seems like the American dream is working out for them big time.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:25 pm 
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
IMU wrote:
I have no interest in defending whatever ideals you're currently trying to uphold. A country that allows someone like you to enjoy success and happiness is failing.


God forbid a country allow happiness and success for people you don't like or agree with.

I have no issue with a person who earns what they deserve and maximize their potential.

These latinx queers, socialists, racial separatists and other "oppressed" want to be given hand outs for simply existing or being born to "the oppressed". They rely on bitch boy demasculated men like you to enable them and pay the taxes to subsidize their lifestyle.

They are the antithesis of what our free market should be.

My ideals are outlined in the bill of rights, constitution and federalist papers. They are not radical.

Each person equal opportunity and equal freedoms.
You cuck. You burrito. You bully.



No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates

Bad take.

Ok then let's get rid of all corporate tax breaks also known as corporate welfare. Starting right now.

Still think it's bad take?


Sure. Lets also end offshore corporate funds.

100% and you know who will cry the loudest about those things? Let me give you a hint. The initials are G O P


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Baby McNown wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
long time guy wrote:

No one's lifestyle has been more subsidized than that of Free Market advocates

Bad take.

Ok then let's get rid of all corporate tax breaks also known as corporate welfare. Starting right now.

Still think it's bad take?


Sure. Lets also end offshore corporate funds.

100% and you know who will cry the loudest about those things? Let me give you a hint. The initials are G O P


Of course. The GOP love to spend like drunken sailors. Cave on guns and immigrants. They don't represent me anymore.

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
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America wrote:
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MANY don't have any issue with it because they benefit "traditional" American companies. MANY didn't have an issue with the individual subsidies when they exclusively benefitted "traditional" Americans. They started complaining when "others" started using these programs.

Yes we used to subsidize companies that built the parts for machines that were to push us beyond the final frontier of space. Now we have to feed, clothe and satisfy parts of the word that have stubbornly rejected civilized society for two millennia.

Hopefully we get back to valuing our accomplishments again. I'm not holding my breath.


We're currently subsidizing people that park their money in offshore bank accounts and tax shelters.

This country is also subsidizing clowns like our current President. Corporate bankruptcy laws are nothing more than a Government subsidy program for rich white men. It helps socialize the risks while privatizing the profits.

That is the dirty little secret that hypocrites and apologists are loathe to talk about however. If it was truly about a free market system guys like Trump would have been popped financially years ago.


Nas I agree there are inefficiency, abuses, gift and flaws in this system.

The issue is that the type of liberals in the OP don't want to reform or fix the system.

They want to throw it out and adopt cultural Marxism and socialism. The people don't take pride in blackness. The instead see it as a disability and currency. Same for Latinos and LGBT


To be honest TM it depends on how you look at it. There has always been two schools of thought on the whole black separatist thing. I will read the piece before really commenting. From the quotes i kind of have an idea what they are talking about though. Might be wrong.


Fair enough. I defer to your lived experience and education



Black separatism is in many respects a response to white racism and always has been. Advocates of it i.e. Marcus Garvey, Martin Delany, Malcolm X haven't historically looked in the direction of Govt for help either.

In fact economically their views have been lockstep with that of Conservative Republicans in many regards. Self Help is paramount in the black separatist movement. In fact it would be highly hypocritical if they chose to promote a governmentally subsidized alternative.

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The Section 8 housing program is one of the more funnier and interesting of all the Govt sponsored welfare programs.

Here you have Republicans bitching and moaning all the time about handouts for black people. This has been their battle cry for 40 plus years. They bitch about subsidies yet you never hear a peep about Section 8 and we know why don't we? They get rich from the shit. The Real Estate Lobby in Washington has fought long and hard to insure that this program be continued.

They have no problem with subsidizing Section 8 yet they are so disturbed and annoyed by Govt subsidies for blacks.

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They don't represent me anymore.

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Black separatism is in many respects a response to white racism and always has been. Advocates of it i.e. Marcus Garvey, Martin Delany, Malcolm X haven't historically looked in the direction of Govt for help either.

In fact economically their views have been lockstep with that of Conservative Republicans in many regards. Self Help is paramount in the black separatist movement. In fact it would be highly hypocritical if they chose to promote a governmentally subsidized alternative.


America promoted the government dependent message of Martin Luther King and now MANY are upset that "others" are now dependent on government. Truthfully the government preferred this type of weakness.

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Black separatism is in many respects a response to white racism and always has been. Advocates of it i.e. Marcus Garvey, Martin Delany, Malcolm X haven't historically looked in the direction of Govt for help either.

In fact economically their views have been lockstep with that of Conservative Republicans in many regards. Self Help is paramount in the black separatist movement. In fact it would be highly hypocritical if they chose to promote a governmentally subsidized alternative.

Yeah, that is true....some of those (black and white) separatist groups claim to even respect one another.


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I love when B Mac is like “oh yeah how bout this?” and those who he was arguing with are like “yeah that’s cool” and he shuts up. The only good endings to B Mac arguments here. And it’s been happening for like a decade :lol:

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Black separatism is in many respects a response to white racism and always has been. Advocates of it i.e. Marcus Garvey, Martin Delany, Malcolm X haven't historically looked in the direction of Govt for help either.

In fact economically their views have been lockstep with that of Conservative Republicans in many regards. Self Help is paramount in the black separatist movement. In fact it would be highly hypocritical if they chose to promote a governmentally subsidized alternative.

Yeah, that is true....some of those (black and white) separatist groups claim to even respect one another.



Marcus Garvey actually had a clandestine meeting with the KKK back in the 20's. Felt that a meeting was necessary since they believed in the same thing.

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Marcus Garvey actually had a clandestine meeting with the KKK back in the 20's. Felt that a meeting was necessary since they believed in the same thing.

Isn't that crazy? One of the white wackos who is into separatism (it might be that Ram Z. Paul guy) mentioned something like this....


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The fear among black separatist groups (not totally unfounded either) is that whites will first co opt then later dominate the movement. If you look at the history of such movements that has been the pattern.

It comes out of an inherent insecurity in some respects but there is some validity in this belief also.

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Marcus Garvey actually had a clandestine meeting with the KKK back in the 20's. Felt that a meeting was necessary since they believed in the same thing.

Isn't that crazy? One of the white wackos who is into separatism (it might be that Ram Z. Paul guy) mentioned something like this....



Yeah. He didn't broadcast it at the time because he feared that he'd be labeled a sellout by his black supporters.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:10 pm 
FavreFan wrote:
I love when B Mac is like “oh yeah how bout this?” and those who he was arguing with are like “yeah that’s cool” and he shuts up. The only good endings to B Mac arguments here. And it’s been happening for like a decade :lol:

Actually it was ToxicFemininity that shut up. The claim that the GOP doesn't represent him was a cute cop out.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:17 pm 
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FavreFan wrote:
I love when B Mac is like “oh yeah how bout this?” and those who he was arguing with are like “yeah that’s cool” and he shuts up. The only good endings to B Mac arguments here. And it’s been happening for like a decade :lol:

Actually it was ToxicFemininity that shut up. The claim that the GOP doesn't represent him was a cute cop out.


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