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I know you aren't a listener but I don't think that is really true. What doomed the show was that they built a show they wanted to listen to and didn't care about what the listeners wanted. A local sports radio show in any market cannot talk national sports as a cornerstone of the show. It just doesn't work. If the NFL is really in the thick of it you can kind of get away with it but even they you aren't getting hot takes about the Houston Texans on nearly a daily basis. Then, they doubled down by spending far too much time on "social issues" which is fine for a segment or two a week but you just can't be beat over the head with it day after day and be someone that comes back the next day excited to listen. Then, to make it even worse, you get rid of the weekly segments that defined the show for over a decade, even when they were bad, and replace it with a radio version of the TV Guide.

There was a good show there. They just badly mismanaged it and not having a producer worked because of the talent of Boers and Bernstein. Trying that a second time was a dumb decision. Hopefully Bernstein learned that lesson and we'll see a better show wherever he is.


And in the grand finale of "Great Show Today Yup," Brick had it right all along.

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You just described how Jason took on the worst characteristics of Bernstein and somehow increased them to become even more insufferable.
No. The show failed because of poor planning.


Goff is half of the show! He bears no responsibility for the planning?


Rick failed miserably defending this show for a long time. Let him sneak out the back door on this one with his head up.

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I did listen. I gave Goff a solid chance.

Too much talk about his infant kid. We really don't care. He acted like he was the first guy to father a child.
The show was too preachy mainly with social issues.
National sports talk is a no-go except for the NFL as BR outlined.

I enjoyed the Hub segments. Hyper local and lots of content. But just about every other guest was brought on to fit a narrative, usually concussion or MSU kind of angles.

What I loved about Goff, and where he was at his best, was as a foil to B&B. He piped in and was funny. He does have a few solid characteristics- he is a local guy and a real sports fan. He was obviously a large consumer of daily sports programming. And while that seems like a given with sports hosts, you can tell that guys like Waddle don't pay close attention to games daily. Goff was plugged in to sports.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I know you aren't a listener but I don't think that is really true. What doomed the show was that they built a show they wanted to listen to and didn't care about what the listeners wanted. A local sports radio show in any market cannot talk national sports as a cornerstone of the show. It just doesn't work. If the NFL is really in the thick of it you can kind of get away with it but even they you aren't getting hot takes about the Houston Texans on nearly a daily basis. Then, they doubled down by spending far too much time on "social issues" which is fine for a segment or two a week but you just can't be beat over the head with it day after day and be someone that comes back the next day excited to listen. Then, to make it even worse, you get rid of the weekly segments that defined the show for over a decade, even when they were bad, and replace it with a radio version of the TV Guide.

There was a good show there. They just badly mismanaged it and not having a producer worked because of the talent of Boers and Bernstein. Trying that a second time was a dumb decision. Hopefully Bernstein learned that lesson and we'll see a better show wherever he is.


And in the grand finale of "Great Show Today Yup," Brick had it right all along.


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The board will have a lot of lurkers today.

Let's hope Beardown has the clutch gene.

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What I loved about Goff, and where he was at his best, was as a foil to B&B. He piped in and was funny. He does have a few solid characteristics- he is a local guy and a real sports fan. He was obviously a large consumer of daily sports programming. And while that seems like a given with sports hosts, you can tell that guys like Waddle don't pay close attention to games daily. Goff was plugged in to sports.


so you loved pre-evolved goff and the gay sex drops goff?


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leashyourkids wrote:
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You just described how Jason took on the worst characteristics of Bernstein and somehow increased them to become even more insufferable.
No. The show failed because of poor planning.


Goff is half of the show! He bears no responsibility for the planning?

He is equally at fault for the planning. I never said otherwise.

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What I loved about Goff, and where he was at his best, was as a foil to B&B. He piped in and was funny. He does have a few solid characteristics- he is a local guy and a real sports fan. He was obviously a large consumer of daily sports programming. And while that seems like a given with sports hosts, you can tell that guys like Waddle don't pay close attention to games daily. Goff was plugged in to sports.


so you loved pre-evolved goff and the gay sex drops goff?


I loved the whole package. He chimed in perfectly. The station was much more fun when they stopped trying to saved the world and just talked like guys at a bar.

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so you loved pre-evolved goff and the gay sex drops goff?


based on a couple of audio drops and three one-liners per day people thought he'd be a good full time host.

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Rick failed miserably defending this show for a long time. Let him sneak out the back door on this one with his head up.

Literally the only thing I defended about the show was that it was better than the borefest on ESPN, and that the ratings still had them #1 in their timeslot, and that people hated Boers and Bernstein just as much.

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denisdman wrote:
billypootons wrote:
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What I loved about Goff, and where he was at his best, was as a foil to B&B. He piped in and was funny. He does have a few solid characteristics- he is a local guy and a real sports fan. He was obviously a large consumer of daily sports programming. And while that seems like a given with sports hosts, you can tell that guys like Waddle don't pay close attention to games daily. Goff was plugged in to sports.


so you loved pre-evolved goff and the gay sex drops goff?


I loved the whole package. He chimed in perfectly. The station was much more fun when they stopped trying to saved the world and just talked like guys at a bar.


well.... sjw.... what you want is so 2012


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I bet Danny Mac parks that F150 right in front of the studios, in a handicap spot, with balls dangling from the back of his truck.


If I'm Danny Mac, I'm moving up to the one-ton F350.


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Curious Hair wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I know you aren't a listener but I don't think that is really true. What doomed the show was that they built a show they wanted to listen to and didn't care about what the listeners wanted. A local sports radio show in any market cannot talk national sports as a cornerstone of the show. It just doesn't work. If the NFL is really in the thick of it you can kind of get away with it but even they you aren't getting hot takes about the Houston Texans on nearly a daily basis. Then, they doubled down by spending far too much time on "social issues" which is fine for a segment or two a week but you just can't be beat over the head with it day after day and be someone that comes back the next day excited to listen. Then, to make it even worse, you get rid of the weekly segments that defined the show for over a decade, even when they were bad, and replace it with a radio version of the TV Guide.

There was a good show there. They just badly mismanaged it and not having a producer worked because of the talent of Boers and Bernstein. Trying that a second time was a dumb decision. Hopefully Bernstein learned that lesson and we'll see a better show wherever he is.


And in the grand finale of "Great Show Today Yup," Brick had it right all along.

I was saying this pretty much since the show started so Yup!

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so you loved pre-evolved goff and the gay sex drops goff?


based on a couple of audio drops and three one-liners per day people thought he'd be a good full time host.

:lol: Solid resume .

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Could Boers be back in the mix? Maybe a little Bruce Wolf as well?

Parkins and Spiegs 10-12
Berstein and Wolf 12-2
Mac and Boers from 2-6

:shock:

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Mac and Bernstein together just couldn't work - both are alphas - neither would want to be in the back.

The one I'd like to see move up would be Laurence - time he got a better time slot. It took me a while to realize it but he's the best thing they got on that station.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
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You just described how Jason took on the worst characteristics of Bernstein and somehow increased them to become even more insufferable.
No. The show failed because of poor planning.


Goff is half of the show! He bears no responsibility for the planning?

He is equally at fault for the planning. I never said otherwise.


Well, we can't just agree and move on that easily.

Are you saying that show planning isn't driven by someone's "characteristics"?

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Could Boers be back in the mix? Maybe a little Bruce Wolf as well?

Parkins and Spiegs 10-12
Berstein and Wolf 12-2
Mac and Boers from 2-6

:shock:


Doubtful.

I think Terry is enjoying retirement. And fuck Bruce Wolf.

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I wonder how much those in charge actually check out this website. Goff has been ripped on here by a lot of guys (including me). Do you think somebody finally listened?

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Could Boers be back in the mix? Maybe a little Bruce Wolf as well?

Parkins and Spiegs 10-12
Berstein and Wolf 12-2
Mac and Boers from 2-6

:shock:


Not a chance Wolf and Bernstein. Senor is all SJW and Bruce Wolf is a conservative.

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Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!


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Awww Goff’s a little butthurt .


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Awww Goff’s a little butthurt .


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I guess Schmutzie Underscore has a better grasp of the Arbitrons than Jimmy DeCastro.

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So this was about a year ago...I can't remember what SJW topic they were beating to death on the radio, but I was FB friends with Goff at the time, and I very politely commented that they just ease up a bit. Whatever the topic was, I was on his side...but I just tried reasoning with him that part of sports radio is an "escape" and by constantly peppering the topic, people grow weary of it.

He got nasty with me, told me to basically shut up, it was none of my business("his numbers") spoke for itself and blocked me.

Yeah, Jason, they do speak for them self.


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Rick failed miserably defending this show for a long time. Let him sneak out the back door on this one with his head up.

Literally the only thing I defended about the show was that it was better than the borefest on ESPN, and that the ratings still had them #1 in their timeslot, and that people hated Boers and Bernstein just as much.


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If it is Mac & Bernstein that's an implosion waiting to happen. I can see Mac agreeing to do it just to get back "in" but I don't see it lasting very long.

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Awww Goff’s a little butthurt .


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Salty as fuck!

In fairness to Goff that is not all he said on twitter.

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