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So this was about a year ago...I can't remember what SJW topic they were beating to death on the radio, but I was FB friends with Goff at the time, and I very politely commented that they just ease up a bit. Whatever the topic was, I was on his side...but I just tried reasoning with him that part of sports radio is an "escape" and by constantly peppering the topic, people grow weary of it.

He got nasty with me, told me to basically shut up, it was none of my business("his numbers") spoke for itself and blocked me.

Yeah, Jason, they do speak for them self.


Yeah they do speak for themselves. What is a little funny to me is how awkward Goff and Bernsie must be right now. They are more personal friends than others at the station and Goff takes the ratings hatchet but not Dan?

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The lineup I'd like to see, but probably won't happen. Cut most of the hosts back to 3 hours for a year and sit down with Mully and Hanley and figure out their glide path and how much longer they want to be getting up at 2:45am.

Days w/o Cub day games:
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Meatpants and ?? 9-12
Bernstein and Herron 12-3
Mac/Parkins/Grote: 3-6, 6:30 if there's a 7pm Cubs, Bulls, or NFL game.
Holmes 6-10
Random person off the street 10-12
Les 12-5

Days with Cubs games, just extend Meatpants to 12:45, and let Mac do the Terry ISDN thing.

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Caller Bob wrote:
So this was about a year ago...I can't remember what SJW topic they were beating to death on the radio, but I was FB friends with Goff at the time, and I very politely commented that they just ease up a bit. Whatever the topic was, I was on his side...but I just tried reasoning with him that part of sports radio is an "escape" and by constantly peppering the topic, people grow weary of it.

He got nasty with me, told me to basically shut up, it was none of my business("his numbers") spoke for itself and blocked me.

Yeah, Jason, they do speak for them self.


He has always been very sensitive to any type of criticism. I once disagreed with him on Twitter that (at the time) Kyrie Irving was better than Deron Williams. I swear my response to him was not at all mean-spirited or even argumentative. I simply disagreed and gave a reason why. He sent some shitty response and then blocked me. I almost couldn't believe it and thought it was an error or something.

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The lineup I'd like to see, but probably won't happen. Cut most of the hosts back to 3 hours for a year and sit down with Mully and Hanley and figure out their glide path and how much longer they want to be getting up at 2:45am.

Days w/o Cub day games:
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Mac/Parkins/Grote: 3-6, 6:30 if there's a 7pm Cubs, Bulls, or NFL game.
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Random person off the street 10-12
Les 12-5

Days with Cubs games, just extend Meatpants to 12:45, and let Mac do the Terry ISDN thing.

I would be good with that

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So this was about a year ago...I can't remember what SJW topic they were beating to death on the radio, but I was FB friends with Goff at the time, and I very politely commented that they just ease up a bit. Whatever the topic was, I was on his side...but I just tried reasoning with him that part of sports radio is an "escape" and by constantly peppering the topic, people grow weary of it.

He got nasty with me, told me to basically shut up, it was none of my business("his numbers") spoke for itself and blocked me.

Yeah, Jason, they do speak for them self.


He has always been very sensitive to any type of criticism. I once disagreed with him on Twitter that (at the time) Kyrie Irving was better than Deron Williams. I swear my response to him was not at all mean-spirited or even argumentative. I simply disagreed and gave a reason why. He sent some shitty response and then blocked me. I almost couldn't believe it and thought it was an error or something.


This very clearly was learned from Bernsie. You cannot look like an all knowing God on Twitter with dissenters. They must be blocked.

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Caller Bob wrote:
So this was about a year ago...I can't remember what SJW topic they were beating to death on the radio, but I was FB friends with Goff at the time, and I very politely commented that they just ease up a bit. Whatever the topic was, I was on his side...but I just tried reasoning with him that part of sports radio is an "escape" and by constantly peppering the topic, people grow weary of it.

He got nasty with me, told me to basically shut up, it was none of my business("his numbers") spoke for itself and blocked me.

Yeah, Jason, they do speak for them self.


He has always been very sensitive to any type of criticism. I once disagreed with him on Twitter that (at the time) Kyrie Irving was better than Deron Williams. I swear my response to him was not at all mean-spirited or even argumentative. I simply disagreed and gave a reason why. He sent some shitty response and then blocked me. I almost couldn't believe it and thought it was an error or something.


:lol: I had a similar twitter interaction with him too..back when Norris Cole was on the Heat...he had an absolute chubby for the guy, if anyone remembers. I basically just told him to chill on that HOF speach and got blocked too. Thin skinned bitch...


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Great day for board racists.

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that's the best you got?

I read the first 4 pages. The usual suspects had the expected reactions.

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that's the best you got?


Yup.

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Goffs a good guy. It sucks it didn't work out. They really needed a producer who could tell them they need to program for their audience instead of what sport they like.

Hopefully he sticks around the station. It's better with him.


100% agreed.

Bernstein is the problem, not Goff.

Eh...Goff is a terrible broadcast voice though. It sounds like college radio. It's too relaxed. Super evident when compared to any fill in.


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Is MITCH on the way out too?!!


That is possible. If not, he is not defending "his guys" in these changes.

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Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


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Goffs a good guy. It sucks it didn't work out. They really needed a producer who could tell them they need to program for their audience instead of what sport they like.

Hopefully he sticks around the station. It's better with him.


100% agreed.

Bernstein is the problem, not Goff.


Eh let's not absolve Jason of any blame. He took on the worst characteristics of Bernstein and somehow increased them to become even more insufferable.


I don't know about even more but trying to emulate Bernstein just doesn't work. It cost him. Hopefully he's able to land on his feet.

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Great news for the Blackhawks to have one fewer Score host shitting on them every chance he gets.

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You just described how Jason took on the worst characteristics of Bernstein and somehow increased them to become even more insufferable.
No. The show failed because of poor planning.


Goff is half of the show! He bears no responsibility for the planning?

He is equally at fault for the planning. I never said otherwise.


Well, we can't just agree and move on that easily.

Are you saying that show planning isn't driven by someone's "characteristics"?
Not exactly.

If they had a great producer they both have enough talent to have a great show. The fact is that B&G was always a very poorly executed show and even people like me who enjoyed it could tell it had serious flaws.

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Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


Do you have any numbers to back that up? I'm guessing since the last two NBA Finals eclipsed 20M viewers for the first-time since the last Jordan Bulls that perhaps a few people in a major city like Chicago checked it out. BUT I COULD BE WRONG.


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I don't think this was Mitch's call!

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I don't think this was Mitch's call!


lol, they were getting their ass kicked 1-6. What exactly did Mitch bone?


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Of course McClure would be booboofaced about the Score cancelling The Racism Show.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
richkraetsch wrote:
Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


I'll sure be checking in now that there will be a return to such iconic references like "North Dallas Forty" "Slap Shot" "Point Spreads" "Ron Jeremy" "Rolling Stones" and "Personal disinterest". Interest in the show is sure to be spiked now that hot button issues such as these are going to be addressed.

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richkraetsch wrote:
Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


And yet the guy brought in doesn't understand that there is almost ZERO interest in the NHL outside of the Hawks in the Chicago market, and that that's even been dwindling quickly with the Hawks since Toews drove into the El train support post.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
richkraetsch wrote:
Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


And yet the guy brought in doesn't understand that there is almost ZERO interest in the NHL outside of the Hawks in the Chicago market, and that that's even been dwindling quickly with the Hawks since Toews drove into the El train support post.


Exactly. Chicago simply does not watch the NHL when the Blackhawks arent prominent. Its reflected in the numbers, they are below places like Hartford that don't even have NHL teams in finals ratings.

But, hey, super interested to hear about Rush and the Preds/Blue Jackets game Danny has money on.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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You just described how Jason took on the worst characteristics of Bernstein and somehow increased them to become even more insufferable.
No. The show failed because of poor planning.


Goff is half of the show! He bears no responsibility for the planning?

He is equally at fault for the planning. I never said otherwise.


Well, we can't just agree and move on that easily.

Are you saying that show planning isn't driven by someone's "characteristics"?
Not exactly.

If they had a great producer they both have enough talent to have a great show. The fact is that B&G was always a very poorly executed show and even people like me who enjoyed it could tell it had serious flaws.

What is Goff's talent?

He's a part time player who got exposed as a starter.


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Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


And yet the guy brought in doesn't understand that there is almost ZERO interest in the NHL outside of the Hawks in the Chicago market, and that that's even been dwindling quickly with the Hawks since Toews drove into the El train support post.


Exactly. Chicago simply does not watch the NHL when the Blackhawks arent prominent. Its reflected in the numbers, they are below places like Hartford that don't even have NHL teams in finals ratings.

But, hey, super interested to hear about Rush and the Preds/Blue Jackets game Danny has money on.

Talking national NHL significantly would be just as dumb.

I wasn't a B&G hater. I thought it was an ok show that could have been a really good show. I found something else to consume when it was going to be a big OKC Thunder day.

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richkraetsch wrote:
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richkraetsch wrote:
Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


Do you have any numbers to back that up? I'm guessing since the last two NBA Finals eclipsed 20M viewers for the first-time since the last Jordan Bulls that perhaps a few people in a major city like Chicago checked it out. BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

Image

Same levels it's been since Jordan left.

Compare White Sox and Cubs ratings to Bulls ratings. The Bulls are 4th or 5th in this town.


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And yet the guy brought in doesn't understand that there is almost ZERO interest in the NHL outside of the Hawks in the Chicago market, and that that's even been dwindling quickly with the Hawks since Toews drove into the El train support post.


But the car accident was 2012 and they won two championships after that. And you're making an argument no one's making. No one is asking for out-of-town NHL talk. That would be insane! But it's wrong to swear up and down that no one cares about the Blackhawks while the city is in the middle of a torrid love affair with the Bulls. The Blackhawks were getting better ratings and the Bulls haven't done shit since Rose went down. There was a time when no one cared about the Hawks and for good reason. That time is over, whether Jason wanted to admit it or not.

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richkraetsch wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Thank god we'll rid ourselves of that stupid national NBA talk and get the much more interesting, hard-hitting 70s rock discussion. If we're lucky we'll also get to hear about the bets he's making.

That is when he decides to show up to do a show.

I wasn't in love with Goff but I felt over the last few weeks they had found a nice balance on the show. I think there's far too much time given to people on the text line and the show for awhile felt less fun. The NBA discussion didn't bother me and seems way overblown on this site. Still, there were issues but to replace him or anyone on the station with Dan fucking McNeil is silly. He's been unreliable time and time again and you give him ANOTHER chance?!

There is almost ZERO interest in the NBA outside of the Bulls in the Chicago market.


And yet the guy brought in doesn't understand that there is almost ZERO interest in the NHL outside of the Hawks in the Chicago market, and that that's even been dwindling quickly with the Hawks since Toews drove into the El train support post.


Exactly. Chicago simply does not watch the NHL when the Blackhawks arent prominent. Its reflected in the numbers, they are below places like Hartford that don't even have NHL teams in finals ratings.

But, hey, super interested to hear about Rush and the Preds/Blue Jackets game Danny has money on.

McNeil barely talks ANY hockey not related to the Hawks, because he knows people dont want to hear it.

If he did, that would be as dumb as talking non Bulls NBA.


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