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The students walking out are exercising their 1st Amendment right, but are 100% ignorant of the rights granted via the 2nd Amendment.



There is someone ignorant of certain rights, and it isn't these kids.

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As we all know, we are witnessing a historic effort on the part of students across the country to use their agency to make change to American gun laws as a result of school shootings. I could not be more proud of our incredible 8th graders and their hard work organizing our Redacted school walk out.

Last week, I was approached by a group of six 8th graders to plan and organize. We met for about an hour and planned out what a walkout would include, as well as what is and is not allowed. We brainstormed what might be included in a flyer, which was then created by the students themselves (attached below). As you can see, they researched and thought carefully about what to include and how to make the most impact.

As you may have noticed, 5th-8th grade will not be taking a PARCC assessment tomorrow to ensure there is no disruption to testing as a result of the walkout. Students will be expected to move quietly through the hallway as 3rd and 4th grade will still be testing.

Students who choose to participate will walk outside to the playground and sit together towards the back of our lot. The walkout will last for exactly 17 minutes and take place at 10:00am, as it will be throughout the country. Teachers will go outside for supervision purposes only and to ensure student safety. There will also be teachers who remain behind to supervise students who do not intend to walk out.

We ask that parents respect the fact that this will be a STUDENT walk out, and is not a field trip. While students will leave the school building, they will not leave school grounds. As our 3rd grade rooms will be testing and are located closely to the main door, we ask that parents do not enter the building. If you are interested in coming to watch our students in action, please stand outside the fence near the students to observe.

Again, we are so proud of our awesome students and their desire to change their world. If there is any group of students who can create change, it is this generation. Go Leopards!

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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The students walking out are exercising their 1st Amendment right, but are 100% ignorant of the rights granted via the 2nd Amendment.



There is someone ignorant of certain rights, and it isn't these kids.

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Another enlightened response from a constitutional scholar.

Many of these school children who participate in the walkout are going to suffer certain disciplinary consequences. They are going to accept those consequences because they understand, or will soon understand, that although they are exercising many of their first amendment rights, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of their first amendment rights.


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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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The students walking out are exercising their 1st Amendment right, but are 100% ignorant of the rights granted via the 2nd Amendment.



There is someone ignorant of certain rights, and it isn't these kids.

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Unless these kids are literally saying to repeal the 2nd Amendment (they arent) than that's not fair at all.


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This is insane. There's no other way to describe this. Insanity.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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The students walking out are exercising their 1st Amendment right, but are 100% ignorant of the rights granted via the 2nd Amendment.



There is someone ignorant of certain rights, and it isn't these kids.

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Another enlightened response from a constitutional scholar.

Many of these school children who participate in the walkout are going to suffer certain disciplinary consequences. They are going to accept those consequences because they understand, or will soon understand, that although they are exercising many of their first amendment rights, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of their first amendment rights.

It seems as though most schools are encouraging the walkouts, at least the ones in my area all are. Now go back to your much needed anger management class.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:40 am 
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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The students walking out are exercising their 1st Amendment right, but are 100% ignorant of the rights granted via the 2nd Amendment.



There is someone ignorant of certain rights, and it isn't these kids.

:roll:


Another enlightened response from a constitutional scholar.

Many of these school children who participate in the walkout are going to suffer certain disciplinary consequences. They are going to accept those consequences because they understand, or will soon understand, that although they are exercising many of their first amendment rights, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of their first amendment rights.

It seems as though most schools are encouraging the walkouts, at least the ones in my area all are. Now go back to your much needed anger management class.

Actually his post isn't angry at all. Maybe you should go back to school and learn there are Amendments other than the Second.


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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
One Post wrote:
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The students walking out are exercising their 1st Amendment right, but are 100% ignorant of the rights granted via the 2nd Amendment.



There is someone ignorant of certain rights, and it isn't these kids.

:roll:


Another enlightened response from a constitutional scholar.

Many of these school children who participate in the walkout are going to suffer certain disciplinary consequences. They are going to accept those consequences because they understand, or will soon understand, that although they are exercising many of their first amendment rights, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of their first amendment rights.

It seems as though most schools are encouraging the walkouts, at least the ones in my area all are. Now go back to your much needed anger management class.

Actually his post isn't angry at all. Maybe you should go back to school and learn there are Amendments other than the Second.

referencing this:
viewtopic.php?p=2787675#p2787675

Let's just say he isn't mentally well and should seek some serious help

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:52 am 
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referencing this:
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Let's just say he isn't mentally well and should seek some serious help

You are using a post from 6 months ago directed at BRick to discount the fact that he (correctly) ripped you for your responses to the protests?


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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Nas wrote:

Again, we are so proud of our awesome students and their desire to change their world. If there is any group of students who can create change, it is this generation. Go Leopards!


They should tell these kids the truth. No one cares about the walk out. If these people are so proud of the students desire to change the world, then why don't they do something with their own generation to change the world. Why expect K-12 to do your work for you. Stop the bullshit and admit you don't give a fuck as long your 401K looks good and your pensions don't get taken away.

All these movements are just trees for people to hug and feel better. You take away religion and you have families going to their Ipads and Iphones looking for the #truth.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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The students walking out are exercising their 1st Amendment right, but are 100% ignorant of the rights granted via the 2nd Amendment.



There is someone ignorant of certain rights, and it isn't these kids.

:roll:


Another enlightened response from a constitutional scholar.

Many of these school children who participate in the walkout are going to suffer certain disciplinary consequences. They are going to accept those consequences because they understand, or will soon understand, that although they are exercising many of their first amendment rights, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of their first amendment rights.


Are you high? All that will happen is everyone around them will say how brave they are and how they will change the world. Setting them up for disappointment when the reality hits that nothing will change because the real people that can make a difference are all rich and don't care because their kids don't go to these schools.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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This is insane. There's no other way to describe this. Insanity.

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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.


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This is insane. There's no other way to describe this. Insanity.

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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.



They just don't know enough to have input into a discussion like this. It's really just silly. If a fifth grader wanted to perform brain surgery, should we let him simply because he's a highly motivated young go-getter?

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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They just don't know enough to have input into a discussion like this. It's really just silly. If a fifth grader wanted to perform brain surgery, should we let him simply because he's a highly motivated young go-getter?


MANY adults don't know enough to have input on any number of topics.

This is a good way of teaching kids about the Constitution and government.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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They just don't know enough to have input into a discussion like this. It's really just silly. If a fifth grader wanted to perform brain surgery, should we let him simply because he's a highly motivated young go-getter?
That depends. Is that fifth grader operating on posters here?

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
This is insane. There's no other way to describe this. Insanity.

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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.



They just don't know enough to have input into a discussion like this. It's really just silly. If a fifth grader wanted to perform brain surgery, should we let him simply because he's a highly motivated young go-getter?

I strongly disagree. 5th graders are seeing this on the news and having active shooter drills, they know about it.

They know enough to say, something must be done to prevent this, and I believe that is all they are saying.

I dont think anyone is proposing that the 11 year olds propose or have a hand in the policy.

This is not much different than school walkouts during Vietnam. Im sure most of those kids didn't understand all the intricacies of that conflict, they just knew that too many of their older brothers were dying and they wanted it to stop.


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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.


Mmmm I don't know. School should be a place of education and protests (to some degree) but I don't think it should be political. I don't think a school or the administration should be choosing a side either.


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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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This is insane. There's no other way to describe this. Insanity.

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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.


No he can't.

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School should be a place of education and protests (to some degree)

Quite Naturually....

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.


Mmmm I don't know. School should be a place of education and protests (to some degree) but I don't think it should be political. I don't think a school or the administration should be choosing a side either.

I agree on choosing a side. If some students want to walkout to protest in favor of the 2A, schools should give them the same support.

My local schools seem to be mostly concerned with letting the students walk out and keeping it safe. (lots of regulations and rules)

Haven't seen any taking a side. (Unless you consider not punishing them taking a side. I personally do not.)

I walked out junior year of high school in support of a bunch of veteran teachers being fired. It was on the news. The school didnt stop us, but they certainly weren't taking a side either (we were protesting THEIR decision)


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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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This is insane. There's no other way to describe this. Insanity.

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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.



They just don't know enough to have input into a discussion like this. It's really just silly. If a fifth grader wanted to perform brain surgery, should we let him simply because he's a highly motivated young go-getter?

Do they have enough input to choose to play football?

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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.


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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
This is insane. There's no other way to describe this. Insanity.

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Some (most people outside of America) would say that the school shootings are INSANE.


THIS, on the other hand is actually quite sane and very American.

You can disagree without denigrating.



They just don't know enough to have input into a discussion like this. It's really just silly. If a fifth grader wanted to perform brain surgery, should we let him simply because he's a highly motivated young go-getter?

Do they have enough input to choose to play football?


No.

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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

You literally walked out of this country.

Snowflake.

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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?

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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?

When you were in 2nd grade, had you come to the conclusion that murdering children was bad and should be avoided?

I'm guessing you had.


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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.


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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?

No this is political indoctrination to a fucking tee.


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