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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?

When you were in 2nd grade, had you come to the conclusion that murdering children was bad and should be avoided?

I'm guessing you had.
Is that around the same time kids choose to be straight?

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They just don't know enough to have input into a discussion like this. It's really just silly. If a fifth grader wanted to perform brain surgery, should we let him simply because he's a highly motivated young go-getter?


MANY adults don't know enough to have input on any number of topics.

This is a good way of teaching kids about the Constitution and government.

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We could solve a lot of these problems by arming these 5th graders after a strenuous 10 hour training course.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?

When you were in 2nd grade, had you come to the conclusion that murdering children was bad and should be avoided?

I'm guessing you had.


I don't think I thought about it at all.

But the walkout isn't a protest against murdering children. Who are they trying to convince? Everyone agrees that's bad.

It's a political protest against a Constitutional right by children who couldn't possible know enough to participate. And they certainly aren't organizing such a thing anyway.

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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

You're a fucking retard and this LIBERALS ARE THE DEVIL thing is wayyyy beyond old. Find something else. Your gay act (back when you were a LIBERAL, btw) was way more entertaining and even that wasn't good

If you think middle school kids are not worried about school shootings, you're a fucking uninformed moron.

For your stupid fucking argument you're attempting to make this more than it is.

Kids are saying that school shootings are out of hand and something must be done.

Anything anyone tries to apply to these kids beyond that is full of shit and has a stupid agenda like you.

You should talk more sports.


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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

You literally walked out of this country.

Snowflake.

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It's a political protest against a Constitutional right by children who couldn't possible know enough to participate.

#1 They are not protesting against a right. They are not protesting to repeal any law or amendment.
#2 You are underestimating how much these kids know

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

I'm not a liberal, but this is what Americans do. They try to change what they don't think is right. There are all kinds of skills that can go along with this, so it could be a positive learning experience in every way possible.


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America wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?

No this is political indoctrination to a fucking tee.

My word, you are easily triggered.


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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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I don't think I thought about it at all.

Really, didnt know murder was bad at 7? I doubt that. Im betting you did.

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But the walkout isn't a protest against murdering children. Who are they trying to convince? Everyone agrees that's bad.

It's a political protest against a Constitutional right by children who couldn't possible know enough to participate. And they certainly aren't organizing such a thing anyway.

Of course its a walkout against murdering children.

How many of these kids have you talked to? I have talked to many in different schools and different age levels in the past few weeks. None of them say shit about the 2a. All they say is that something must be done to keep kids safe.

And no, we don't all agree murdering children is bad on the same level. Some think it's insane. Some chalk it up to making an omelet (2a) breaking eggs (school shootings)


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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

You're a fucking retard and this LIBERALS ARE THE DEVIL thing is wayyyy beyond old. Find something else. Your gay act (back when you were a LIBERAL, btw) was way more entertaining and even that wasn't good

If you think middle school kids are not worried about school shootings, you're a fucking uninformed moron.

For your stupid fucking argument you're attempting to make this more than it is.

Kids are saying that school shootings are out of hand and something must be done.

Anything anyone tries to apply to these kids beyond that is full of shit and has a stupid agenda like you.

You should talk more sports.


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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

I'm not a liberal, but this is what Americans do. They try to change what they don't think is right. There are all kinds of skills that can go along with this, so it could be a positive learning experience in every way possible.

Yep, this is all partisan bullshit.

If these kids were walking out in support of the 2A, these people would be all about it.

For an example of that, see Kyle Kashuv's twitter account.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
America wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

You're a fucking retard and this LIBERALS ARE THE DEVIL thing is wayyyy beyond old. Find something else. Your gay act (back when you were a LIBERAL, btw) was way more entertaining and even that wasn't good

If you think middle school kids are not worried about school shootings, you're a fucking uninformed moron.

For your stupid fucking argument you're attempting to make this more than it is.

Kids are saying that school shootings are out of hand and something must be done.

Anything anyone tries to apply to these kids beyond that is full of shit and has a stupid agenda like you.

You should talk more sports.

Triggered hard by the uncomfortable truth that this whole thing is a 10/10 work by kids who don't want to learn about math. School shootings are so far down the list on causes of deaths for under-18's in the USA it's ridiculous. Even in the context of overall gun deaths it's miniscule.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I don't think I thought about it at all.

Really, didnt know murder was bad at 7? I doubt that. Im betting you did.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
But the walkout isn't a protest against murdering children. Who are they trying to convince? Everyone agrees that's bad.

It's a political protest against a Constitutional right by children who couldn't possible know enough to participate. And they certainly aren't organizing such a thing anyway.

Of course its a walkout against murdering children.

How many of these kids have you talked to? I have talked to many in different schools and different age levels in the past few weeks. None of them say shit about the 2a. All they say is that something must be done to keep kids safe.

And no, we don't all agree murdering children is bad on the same level. Some think it's insane. Some chalk it up to making an omelet (2a) breaking eggs (school shootings)


No one is in favor of murdering children. Come on. That's not what these walkouts are about. They're about seizing guns. Some people would be fine seizing all of them. Some just want to seize certain types.

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Triggered hard by the uncomfortable truth that this whole thing is a 10/10 work by kids who don't want to learn about math. School shootings are so far down the list on causes of deaths for under-18's in the USA it's ridiculous. Even in the context of overall gun deaths it's miniscule.

:lol:

You are the biggest SNOWFLAKE I've ever encountered

EVERYTHING triggers you.

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The idea behind the protests is "Do Something!" It started with Trump sayings expanding background checks, 21 to buy a rifle and arming teachers.

He has backed down on the first 2 points and a yesterday a teacher accidentally shot a bullet into the ceiling showing off his gun to a class.

I'm bothered by the fact elementary kids are now receiving active shooter drills. Nothing like explaining child slaughters to a 7 year old when she comes home asking why someone would do this.


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If this is a walkout against murdering children, who are they protesting against? The pro-children murder crowd?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I don't think I thought about it at all.

Really, didnt know murder was bad at 7? I doubt that. Im betting you did.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
But the walkout isn't a protest against murdering children. Who are they trying to convince? Everyone agrees that's bad.

It's a political protest against a Constitutional right by children who couldn't possible know enough to participate. And they certainly aren't organizing such a thing anyway.

Of course its a walkout against murdering children.

How many of these kids have you talked to? I have talked to many in different schools and different age levels in the past few weeks. None of them say shit about the 2a. All they say is that something must be done to keep kids safe.

And no, we don't all agree murdering children is bad on the same level. Some think it's insane. Some chalk it up to making an omelet (2a) breaking eggs (school shootings)


No one is in favor of murdering children. Come on. That's not what these walkouts are about. They're about seizing guns. Some people would be fine seizing all of them. Some just want to seize certain types.

I didn't say anyone was in favor. I said people have different opinions of how much of a problem it is. We have people on this very board who will readily say, you'll never stop them and it's just part of living in a country that allows citizens to have guns.

And you can say the media is using the kids in that way if you want, but these kids are not talking about taking guns. They're talking about going to school without worrying about being murdered.

Believe it or not most kids know they don't know everything (despite the Parkland kids and America thinking they do)


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I agree on choosing a side. If some students want to walkout to protest in favor of the 2A, schools should give them the same support.

My local schools seem to be mostly concerned with letting the students walk out and keeping it safe. (lots of regulations and rules)

Haven't seen any taking a side. (Unless you consider not punishing them taking a side. I personally do not.)

I walked out junior year of high school in support of a bunch of veteran teachers being fired. It was on the news. The school didnt stop us, but they certainly weren't taking a side either (we were protesting THEIR decision)


Here kids are being encouraged to participate and there seems to be a good amount of praise for the ones that are/will/did. It's backed and organized by the Women's march. There are 3 different ones scheduled. To me, it looks as if the kids are props. They are getting support to change laws and I don't think kids at the elementary level connect that with what they are being told this is about. There is an agenda this isn't I don't want to die at school. And I say that agreeing with most of what (I believe) they claim they are asking for. However, I admit I don't fully know or understand the specifics and would bet most people don't.


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Triggered hard by the uncomfortable truth that this whole thing is a 10/10 work by kids who don't want to learn about math. School shootings are so far down the list on causes of deaths for under-18's in the USA it's ridiculous. Even in the context of overall gun deaths it's miniscule.

:lol:

You are the biggest SNOWFLAKE I've ever encountered

EVERYTHING triggers you.

Still, it's all a work and I appreciate your commitment to it, even if it is terribly uninteresting.

B-b-b-but y-you are the s-s-snowflake!

Your stupid "I know you are but what am I" responses belong the same place these kids do: school.


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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

I'm not a liberal, but this is what Americans do. They try to change what they don't think is right. There are all kinds of skills that can go along with this, so it could be a positive learning experience in every way possible.

Yep, this is all partisan bullshit.

If these kids were walking out in support of the 2A, these people would be all about it.

For an example of that, see Kyle Kashuv's twitter account.


Except the difference is schools likely wouldn't allow them to all walk out if it didn't fit the narrative. What if all these kids walked out of school saying all students and teachers should be armed. You think administrators would be all for it and punish teachers who tried to stop it?

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If this is a walkout against murdering children, who are they protesting against? The pro-children murder crowd?

You're not this stupid.

Don't get me wrong, you are definitely stupid, but not to THIS level.

Ill play along though. Id say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


But again, mostly, they just dont want to die or have to worry about dying when they go to school. Seems reasonable to me.


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Triggered hard by the uncomfortable truth that this whole thing is a 10/10 work by kids who don't want to learn about math. School shootings are so far down the list on causes of deaths for under-18's in the USA it's ridiculous. Even in the context of overall gun deaths it's miniscule.

:lol:

You are the biggest SNOWFLAKE I've ever encountered

EVERYTHING triggers you.

Still, it's all a work and I appreciate your commitment to it, even if it is terribly uninteresting.

B-b-b-but y-you are the s-s-snowflake!

Your stupid "I know you are but what am I" responses belong the same place these kids do: school.

Again, it's just tired.

You're getting less and less responses. I know that bothers you too, because everything does.

It must suck to be you.


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I'm hoping my second grader's school didnt do this. I didnt even think about it. He certainly has no clue about any issues. He still thinks WWE is real.

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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

I'm not a liberal, but this is what Americans do. They try to change what they don't think is right. There are all kinds of skills that can go along with this, so it could be a positive learning experience in every way possible.

Yep, this is all partisan bullshit.

If these kids were walking out in support of the 2A, these people would be all about it.

For an example of that, see Kyle Kashuv's twitter account.


Except the difference is schools likely wouldn't allow them to all walk out if it didn't fit the narrative. What if all these kids walked out of school saying all students and teachers should be armed. You think administrators would be all for it and punish teachers who tried to stop it?

That's fine. Civil disobedience means that you have to pay a penalty. They should mark 'em absent or something just so they know that they have to pay a price. I actually told students that this morning. Go ahead, I support you, but you are getting a zero on the quiz.

Being sanctioned takes away the CD a bit, but then again, these are kids and schools are responsible for their safety.


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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:02 pm 
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I agree on choosing a side. If some students want to walkout to protest in favor of the 2A, schools should give them the same support.

My local schools seem to be mostly concerned with letting the students walk out and keeping it safe. (lots of regulations and rules)

Haven't seen any taking a side. (Unless you consider not punishing them taking a side. I personally do not.)

I walked out junior year of high school in support of a bunch of veteran teachers being fired. It was on the news. The school didnt stop us, but they certainly weren't taking a side either (we were protesting THEIR decision)


Here kids are being encouraged to participate and there seems to be a good amount of praise for the ones that are/will/did. It's backed and organized by the Women's march. There are 3 different ones scheduled. To me, it looks as if the kids are props. They are getting support to change laws and I don't think kids at the elementary level connect that with what they are being told this is about. There is an agenda this isn't I don't want to die at school. And I say that agreeing with most of what (I believe) they claim they are asking for. However, I admit I don't fully know or understand the specifics and would bet most people don't.

Ok, I dont know how many kids you've talked to or where and I cant speak to anything but my experience with the kids I know.

I know the ones in my community from like 4th grade thru high school are saying EXACTLY that. They dont want to die. They want the school shootings to stop. They say nothing about the 2A or NRA.

In fact, the older ones usually preface it by saying "we're not saying take everyone's guns" so they dont get attacked by pro gun people before they can even speak.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

Is it about morality or cause and effect?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

Favor? No. Indifferent? Possibly


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