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Except the difference is schools likely wouldn't allow them to all walk out if it didn't fit the narrative. What if all these kids walked out of school saying all students and teachers should be armed. You think administrators would be all for it and punish teachers who tried to stop it?


We walked out of HS because they fired a Narc we liked, they can't stop students from walking out.


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Except the difference is schools likely wouldn't allow them to all walk out if it didn't fit the narrative. What if all these kids walked out of school saying all students and teachers should be armed. You think administrators would be all for it and punish teachers who tried to stop it?

Depends on where. Whatever Cuck Academy RPB sends his useless spawn to be indoctrinated at would probably expel the kid for being a potential school shooter. Rural Alabama will probably be more receptive. Again, more evidence this is a stunt by the left that, in a really genius way, uses kids hatred of going to school to get them to walk out in favor of a movement they don't give a shit about.

95% of those walking out will go straight home, eat Cheetos and olay Overwatch. Most unsure of what they were even walking out for in the first place.


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If this is a walkout against murdering children, who are they protesting against? The pro-children murder crowd?

You're not this stupid.

Don't get me wrong, you are definitely stupid, but not to THIS level.

Ill play along though. Id say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


But again, mostly, they just dont want to die or have to worry about dying when they go to school. Seems reasonable to me.


And what mythical gun legislation would entirely eliminate their every fear?

I don’t know that I’m against some sort of gun legislation, but there is very little evidence that it will have an impact. Nevertheless, the condescension is off the charts from the anti-gun crowd. You’re not even a condescending person, and yet this topic makes you look like one. You are implying that everyone against more gun control is in favor of children being murdered.

I don’t blame you, though.

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Yea they also had drills in the event of nuclear attack, we didn't let children man B-52's though did we?

This is a million types of fucked up. You people cheering it are lunatics.

Terrible analogy.

Kids walking out to protest Nuclear war would be apt. No one is saying to put kids in Congress or let them write laws.

Dont be so lazy.

This isnt new. Why is this walkout different from any other?

Kids walking out to protest guns would be doing it for the exact same reasons as kids walking out to protest nuclear war: skipping school. You stupid liberals are so weak and easy to manipulate that you see things like a 5th grader whole-heartedly embracing modern narcissism with a goddman press packet and obviously just assume that's all about the issues. It's not. For as long as there has been school there has been kids looking to get out of school.

I don't know who's more childlike. The kids or the modern American left. Grow the fuck up already.

I'm not a liberal, but this is what Americans do. They try to change what they don't think is right. There are all kinds of skills that can go along with this, so it could be a positive learning experience in every way possible.

Yep, this is all partisan bullshit.

If these kids were walking out in support of the 2A, these people would be all about it.

For an example of that, see Kyle Kashuv's twitter account.


Except the difference is schools likely wouldn't allow them to all walk out if it didn't fit the narrative. What if all these kids walked out of school saying all students and teachers should be armed. You think administrators would be all for it and punish teachers who tried to stop it?

That's a narrow view, are you talking only Chicago? There are TONS of schools that would be all about supporting the 2A. (arming teachers maybe not as that is really fucking stupid and most people agree on that)


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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

Favor? No. Indifferent? Possibly


You can’t possibly believe this.

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I know the ones in my community from like 4th grade thru high school are saying EXACTLY that. They dont want to die. They want the school shootings to stop. They say nothing about the 2A or NRA.

In fact, the older ones usually preface it by saying "we're not saying take everyone's guns" so they dont get attacked by pro gun people before they can even speak.


These same kids were eating tide pods 2 months ago.

The average student doesnt want to die. I get that, I think everyone would agree that we dont want kids to die. They arent mentioning the 2A or the NRA because they dont know what it is.

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Yep, this is all partisan bullshit.

If these kids were walking out in support of the 2A, these people would be all about it.

For an example of that, see Kyle Kashuv's twitter account.


I'm not in favor of arming anybody at school but I do believe in Concealed Carry. When are the 3 school marches organized by a political party scheduled? Think it will be popular?


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There's nothing wrong with protesting to repeal/change/narrow another right. Abortion was deemed legal and a Constitutional right. People protest against abortion rights all the time.

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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

No, I never said that.

Now it's predictably turning into a semantics debate.

The kids want to be safe in school. That's what it's about.

That they may not know what the solution is, doesnt matter. They are saying "this isnt ok, do something"


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Except the difference is schools likely wouldn't allow them to all walk out if it didn't fit the narrative. What if all these kids walked out of school saying all students and teachers should be armed. You think administrators would be all for it and punish teachers who tried to stop it?

Depends on where. Whatever Cuck Academy RPB sends his useless spawn to be indoctrinated at would probably expel the kid for being a potential school shooter. Rural Alabama will probably be more receptive. Again, more evidence this is a stunt by the left that, in a really genius way, uses kids hatred of going to school to get them to walk out in favor of a movement they don't give a shit about.

95% of those walking out will go straight home, eat Cheetos and olay Overwatch. Most unsure of what they were even walking out for in the first place.

Alright, dude, this is childish. You seem really cool, too, and that's why I don't get it.

Christ, I'm so out of the loop (i.e., old) that I don't even know what Overwatch is or if I should italicize it or place it in quotation marks.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

No, I never said that.

Now it's predictably turning into a semantics debate.

The kids want to be safe in school. That's what it's about.

That they may not know what the solution is, doesnt matter. They are saying "this isnt ok, do something"


By that logic, they should protest cancer.

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Except the difference is schools likely wouldn't allow them to all walk out if it didn't fit the narrative. What if all these kids walked out of school saying all students and teachers should be armed. You think administrators would be all for it and punish teachers who tried to stop it?

Depends on where. Whatever Cuck Academy RPB sends his useless spawn to be indoctrinated at would probably expel the kid for being a potential school shooter. Rural Alabama will probably be more receptive. Again, more evidence this is a stunt by the left that, in a really genius way, uses kids hatred of going to school to get them to walk out in favor of a movement they don't give a shit about.

95% of those walking out will go straight home, eat Cheetos and olay Overwatch. Most unsure of what they were even walking out for in the first place.

Do you still want to suck Ryan Pace's cock or no?

Real life must be very tough on you. I'm truly sorry about that. I hope things get better.


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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?


If I asked them to define it they probably couldn't. Truthfully the average 2nd grader might view it as just another type of recess. However they would be able to grasp that the walkout was tied to the school shootings. They'd definitely know that. If later on they realize that what they were doing was tied to a larger issue then all the better. Actually this is a learning tool believe it or not. For people to suggest that children are losing valuable education time they aren't. This is sort of a practical way of learning about how civil disobedience.

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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

No, I never said that.

Now it's predictably turning into a semantics debate.

The kids want to be safe in school. That's what it's about.

That they may not know what the solution is, doesnt matter. They are saying "this isnt ok, do something"


Statistically, the kids are safe in school though. They are more likely to die in the car on the way to/from school.

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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

Favor? No. Indifferent? Possibly


You can’t possibly believe this.

I do. There's a lot of indifference. "Thoughts and prayers" and onto whenever the next shooting occurs.


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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

Favor? No. Indifferent? Possibly


That's a wild assumption simply designed to impugn those who disagree with something someone else is demanding.

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Nevertheless, the condescension is off the charts from the anti-gun crowd.

Your ideas are eerily similar to mine over the past six months.


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The kids want to be safe in school. That's what it's about.


More kids will die driving to or from school the rest of this month than will die in school shooting between now and Jan 1 2020.


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leashyourkids wrote:
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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

No, I never said that.

Now it's predictably turning into a semantics debate.

The kids want to be safe in school. That's what it's about.

That they may not know what the solution is, doesnt matter. They are saying "this isnt ok, do something"


By that logic, they should protest cancer.

I'm sure those kids would be in favor of curing cancer too.

I guess the difference is, they assume were doing all we can with cancer but maybe not all we can with gun violence?

Cmon dude.


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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?


If I asked them to define it they probably couldn't. Truthfully the average 2nd grader might view it as just another type of recess. However they would be able to grasp that the walkout was tied to the school shootings. They'd definitely know that. If later on they realize that what they were doing was tied to a larger issue then all the better. Actually this is a learning tool believe it or not. For people to suggest that children are losing valuable education time they aren't. This is sort of a practical way of learning about civil disobedience.


Are people discussing the Parkland shooting with their 2nd graders?? I sure as hell didnt.

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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?


If I asked them to define it they probably couldn't. Truthfully the average 2nd grader might view it as just another type of recess. However they would be able to grasp that the walkout was tied to the school shootings. They'd definitely know that. If later on they realize that what they were doing was tied to a larger issue then all the better. Actually this is a learning tool believe it or not. For people to suggest that children are losing valuable education time they aren't. This is sort of a practical way of learning about civil disobedience.


Are people discussing the Parkland shooting with their 2nd graders?? I sure as hell didnt.


I discussed it fully with my 3rd grader.


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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

Favor? No. Indifferent? Possibly


That's a wild assumption simply designed to impugn those who disagree with something someone else is demanding.

Nope.


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I know the ones in my community from like 4th grade thru high school are saying EXACTLY that. They dont want to die. They want the school shootings to stop. They say nothing about the 2A or NRA.

In fact, the older ones usually preface it by saying "we're not saying take everyone's guns" so they dont get attacked by pro gun people before they can even speak.


These same kids were eating tide pods 2 months ago.

The average student doesnt want to die. I get that, I think everyone would agree that we dont want kids to die. They arent mentioning the 2A or the NRA because they dont know what it is.

That tide pod comment gets made on many FoxNews posts.

What percentage of kids do you think ate Tide pods?

I don't want to get into a whole thing here but that's just a worthless comment. Kids and adults all over do dumb things, that doesnt mean the rest of us have to stop doing things.


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There's nothing wrong with protesting to repeal/change/narrow another right. Abortion was deemed legal and a Constitutional right. People protest against abortion rights all the time.


How do you think a national school walkout against abortion would go over?

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Being serious for a moment, has anyone here actually tried a Tide Pod?



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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?


If I asked them to define it they probably couldn't. Truthfully the average 2nd grader might view it as just another type of recess. However they would be able to grasp that the walkout was tied to the school shootings. They'd definitely know that. If later on they realize that what they were doing was tied to a larger issue then all the better. Actually this is a learning tool believe it or not. For people to suggest that children are losing valuable education time they aren't. This is sort of a practical way of learning about civil disobedience.


Are people discussing the Parkland shooting with their 2nd graders?? I sure as hell didnt.

My 6th grader knew about it by that night.

I wouldn't bring it up to a 2nd grader though unless they somehow knew about it.


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with Civil Disobedience. If the kids choose to exercise their rights as citizens it can be a net win. We often criticize young Americans for not being civically active. When they try and become active they're torn down for it.



Forget about the high school kids. Do you really think second graders are practicing civil disobedience here?


If I asked them to define it they probably couldn't. Truthfully the average 2nd grader might view it as just another type of recess. However they would be able to grasp that the walkout was tied to the school shootings. They'd definitely know that. If later on they realize that what they were doing was tied to a larger issue then all the better. Actually this is a learning tool believe it or not. For people to suggest that children are losing valuable education time they aren't. This is sort of a practical way of learning about civil disobedience.


Are people discussing the Parkland shooting with their 2nd graders?? I sure as hell didnt.


I discussed it fully with my 3rd grader.


For real? To what end? It's not like my son reads CNN or watches the news, he wasnt going to stumble across the incident. He plays with toys, video games and watches cartoons.

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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

Favor? No. Indifferent? Possibly


That's a wild assumption simply designed to impugn those who disagree with something someone else is demanding.

Nope.


Yes it is. And if you actually believe it, it is distasteful. You are using dead children as a shield to try and win a political debate.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I'd say they are protesting against anyone who stands in the way of legislation or actions that would curb school shootings.


This is the entire crux of the issue. That whatever legislation is being pushed would actually achieve such a result. Do you think that anyone who disagrees that it would is in favor or murdering children?

No, I never said that.

Now it's predictably turning into a semantics debate.

The kids want to be safe in school. That's what it's about.

That they may not know what the solution is, doesnt matter. They are saying "this isnt ok, do something"


Statistically, the kids are safe in school though. They are more likely to die in the car on the way to/from school.

Does that matter?

If you had a murderer killing people in your neighborhood would you be less worried because you're more likely to die in a car accident?


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