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Virginia Tech had more fatalities than Columbine and Parkland combined and was accomplished entirely with pistols. How many times do we have to expose your lack of understanding when it comes to firearms?
That's a disingenuous reply given what I even know about the "pistols" that were used.

What do you mean?

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I look forward to all the acceptance of sanctuary cities and states in traditional gun ownership areas after the great new laws and bans. After all it is patriotic to disobey laws and hinder federal enforcement of laws/bans you don’t like.

Wait... what?

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Virginia Tech had more fatalities than Columbine and Parkland combined and was accomplished entirely with pistols. How many times do we have to expose your lack of understanding when it comes to firearms?
That's a disingenuous reply given what I even know about the "pistols" that were used.

The Glock 19 is like the most ubiquitous handgun in the world.


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I guarantee that you have been backdooring on here


Taking cues from Goff, eh?


brown shirts that partook heavily in this sort of thing.


Too much backdooring. Classic.


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Barking up the wrong tree if you're looking for me to defend illegal immigrants.


I wont even call them undocumented.


No. I think that's the same logic that people use to keep Muslim immigrants out of the country.

Im not really a Muslim advocate either. I do think that Islamic terrorism is a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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There are very few districts where there are going to be disciplinary consequences. For the most part they are getting tacit approval from administrators and educators alike. So pretty much no consequences, which is personally fine with me. I just wish they also understood their other Constitutional rights.


There are going to be some children who suffer certain disciplinary consequences. Those consequences will befall them because they understand, or will soon understand, that although they are exercising many of their first amendment rights, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of their first amendment rights.

Also, even in the districts where no disciplinary action will be brought against students, it would be undeniable that if the student body decided to exercise their first amendment rights with a walk-out every day, that the administration would enact severe disciplinary actions. This would be enacted, and would be just and proper because, and you may have read this somewhere before, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of first amendment rights.

The students understand that the Bill of Rights protects many different rights of the citizenry, but for reasonable, well founded, and legitimate reasons, there are restrictions on the various rights granted under the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights was incorporated into the Constitution as a set of Amendments, whole cloth, it would be wholly inconsistent to state that one or more of the Amendments can be reasonably, rationally, and judiciously infringed upon, but this one magical Amendment can have no restrictions.

I take major issue with curtailment of our granted rights. It is one of the reasons that while I oppose the cause the walkout students are taking up, I don't oppose the walkout itself. The walkout itself is an exercising of Constitutional Rights. In fact I'm old enough to recall walk-outs around 2000 over locker searches in some schools (that was more localized though).

Restrictions upon our rights are literally nothing more than restrictions on our liberty. They must be opposed at all stops. So yes I support these students walking out even when I don't support their reason for doing so.


So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?

Only you think of such asinine scenarios.


So is that a yes or no? Should there be a restriction on that type of political speech?

Please answer yes or no, thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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There are very few districts where there are going to be disciplinary consequences. For the most part they are getting tacit approval from administrators and educators alike. So pretty much no consequences, which is personally fine with me. I just wish they also understood their other Constitutional rights.


There are going to be some children who suffer certain disciplinary consequences. Those consequences will befall them because they understand, or will soon understand, that although they are exercising many of their first amendment rights, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of their first amendment rights.

Also, even in the districts where no disciplinary action will be brought against students, it would be undeniable that if the student body decided to exercise their first amendment rights with a walk-out every day, that the administration would enact severe disciplinary actions. This would be enacted, and would be just and proper because, and you may have read this somewhere before, there are reasonable and well founded restrictions on, and abridgments of first amendment rights.

The students understand that the Bill of Rights protects many different rights of the citizenry, but for reasonable, well founded, and legitimate reasons, there are restrictions on the various rights granted under the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights was incorporated into the Constitution as a set of Amendments, whole cloth, it would be wholly inconsistent to state that one or more of the Amendments can be reasonably, rationally, and judiciously infringed upon, but this one magical Amendment can have no restrictions.

I take major issue with curtailment of our granted rights. It is one of the reasons that while I oppose the cause the walkout students are taking up, I don't oppose the walkout itself. The walkout itself is an exercising of Constitutional Rights. In fact I'm old enough to recall walk-outs around 2000 over locker searches in some schools (that was more localized though).

Restrictions upon our rights are literally nothing more than restrictions on our liberty. They must be opposed at all stops. So yes I support these students walking out even when I don't support their reason for doing so.


So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?

Only you think of such asinine scenarios.


So is that a yes or no? Should there be a restriction on that type of political speech?

Please answer yes or no, thanks in advance.
Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Virginia Tech had more fatalities than Columbine and Parkland combined and was accomplished entirely with pistols. How many times do we have to expose your lack of understanding when it comes to firearms?
That's a disingenuous reply given what I even know about the "pistols" that were used.

What do you mean?
When discussing a semi-automatic weapon and the number of deaths, saying "Actually, another semi-automatic weapon killing spree had more deaths" is disingenuous when you leave out the fact that both were semi-automatic.

And yes, I know the response will be something about "You need to learn what semi-automatic means" even though I do know the difference.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Virginia Tech had more fatalities than Columbine and Parkland combined and was accomplished entirely with pistols. How many times do we have to expose your lack of understanding when it comes to firearms?
That's a disingenuous reply given what I even know about the "pistols" that were used.

What do you mean?
When discussing a semi-automatic weapon and the number of deaths, saying "Actually, another semi-automatic weapon killing spree had more deaths" is disingenuous when you leave out the fact that both were semi-automatic.

And yes, I know the response will be something about "You need to learn what semi-automatic means" even though I do know the difference.


But now it sounds like you are advocating for seizing/making illegal all semi-automatic weapons, which effectively is all guns. And that's the real position for most gun control people although they never really say so.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?



Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game


Please see the above referenced hypothetical situation regarding a US citizen lawfully standing on public property and taking no other action aside from exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. Do you believe that there should be any restrictions on the first amendment rights of this citizen as he is choosing to exercise them in this hypothetical situation.

Yes or no answer please, thank you in advance for cooperating.


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But now it sounds like you are advocating for seizing/making illegal all semi-automatic weapons, which effectively is all guns. And that's the real position for most gun control people although they never really say so.
I would say that if that is what I wanted.

Ogie loves to downplay the effectiveness of the AR15, even though it is used in a huge majority of these cases. That's what he was doing when he said it was a "pistol" that did the Virginia Tech shooting.

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So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?



Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game


Please see the above referenced hypothetical situation regarding a US citizen lawfully standing on public property and taking no other action aside from exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. Do you believe that there should be any restrictions on the first amendment rights of this citizen as he is choosing to exercise them in this hypothetical situation.

Yes or no answer please, thank you in advance for cooperating.

Your argument is not based upon any real life scenario, go ahead and come back with a real scenario

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?



Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game


Please see the above referenced hypothetical situation regarding a US citizen lawfully standing on public property and taking no other action aside from exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. Do you believe that there should be any restrictions on the first amendment rights of this citizen as he is choosing to exercise them in this hypothetical situation.

Yes or no answer please, thank you in advance for cooperating.



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Virginia Tech had more fatalities than Columbine and Parkland combined and was accomplished entirely with pistols. How many times do we have to expose your lack of understanding when it comes to firearms?
That's a disingenuous reply given what I even know about the "pistols" that were used.

What do you mean?
When discussing a semi-automatic weapon and the number of deaths, saying "Actually, another semi-automatic weapon killing spree had more deaths" is disingenuous when you leave out the fact that both were semi-automatic.

And yes, I know the response will be something about "You need to learn what semi-automatic means" even though I do know the difference.

Well I don't think that was the point.
The point was you talked of banning ar15s. Ok. But Columbine involved shotguns and pistols. You said that more died as a result of the perp having an ar15 at parkland. Ok. The point was raised that the deadliest school shooting was done with pistols.
I think the point was that a motivated killer will use pistols if an ar15 isn't available.
Perhaps we should be looking at what makes a killer or how we should have used observed behavior to keep any weapon out of a sickos hands when we know they're damaged goods.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?



Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game


Please see the above referenced hypothetical situation regarding a US citizen lawfully standing on public property and taking no other action aside from exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. Do you believe that there should be any restrictions on the first amendment rights of this citizen as he is choosing to exercise them in this hypothetical situation.

Yes or no answer please, thank you in advance for cooperating.

Your argument is not based upon any real life scenario, go ahead and come back with a real scenario

The Court has ruled many of them, so it will be difficult


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But now it sounds like you are advocating for seizing/making illegal all semi-automatic weapons, which effectively is all guns. And that's the real position for most gun control people although they never really say so.
I would say that if that is what I wanted.

Ogie loves to downplay the effectiveness of the AR15, even though it is used in a huge majority of these cases. That's what he was doing when he said it was a "pistol" that did the Virginia Tech shooting.

yes, I downplay the effectiveness of the AR-15 because the AR-15 is really not something special as a firearm and in a case where you are in close quarters could be less effective than a pistol. As such we see school shootings where the pistol is the more effective weapon.

Banning the AR-15 is nothing more than virtue signaling. There is a reason handguns are used for the vast majority of US gun homicides.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... 9-2013.xls

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Banning the AR-15 is nothing more than virtue signaling.
There we go. The cycle is complete. Banning the gun that is used in most of these shootings is just "virtue signaling" because it's not a solution that will stop all of them.

At least I have a new quote for the AR-15. It's "not something special as a firearm". :lol:

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Banning the AR-15 is nothing more than virtue signaling.
There we go. The cycle is complete. Banning the gun that is used in most of these shootings is just "virtue signaling" because it's not a solution that will stop all of them.

At least I have a new quote for the AR-15. It's "not something special as a firearm". :lol:

Why not ban the Ruger Mini-14 then?

Exact same functionality and round as the AR-15... but not scary looking

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Banning the AR-15 is nothing more than virtue signaling.
There we go. The cycle is complete. Banning the gun that is used in most of these shootings is just "virtue signaling" because it's not a solution that will stop all of them.

At least I have a new quote for the AR-15. It's "not something special as a firearm". :lol:

Why not ban the Ruger Mini-14 then?

Exact same functionality and round as the AR-15... but not scary looking

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Sure. We can ban that too.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?



Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game


Please see the above referenced hypothetical situation regarding a US citizen lawfully standing on public property and taking no other action aside from exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. Do you believe that there should be any restrictions on the first amendment rights of this citizen as he is choosing to exercise them in this hypothetical situation.

Yes or no answer please, thank you in advance for cooperating.

Your argument is not based upon any real life scenario, go ahead and come back with a real scenario


The only thing that matters for our analysis is could the scenario possibly happen. Please note how I termed it a hypothetical scenario. Nothing in the laws of nature or physics would preclude said scenario from happening. It is a scenario that could conceivably happen. It is not likely to happen, or happen often, but it is possible that it could happen.

So I'll ask again, to someone who said that restrictions on our liberty should be opposed at ALL stops, so do you believe in the above hypothetical scenario, should it ever arise, that there should be any reasonable and rational restriction on that citizen's exercise of his freedom under the first amendment.

Yes or no answer please, thank you for cooperating.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
One Post wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
One Post wrote:

So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?



Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game


Please see the above referenced hypothetical situation regarding a US citizen lawfully standing on public property and taking no other action aside from exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. Do you believe that there should be any restrictions on the first amendment rights of this citizen as he is choosing to exercise them in this hypothetical situation.

Yes or no answer please, thank you in advance for cooperating.

Your argument is not based upon any real life scenario, go ahead and come back with a real scenario


The only thing that matters for our analysis is could the scenario possibly happen. Please note how I termed it a hypothetical scenario. Nothing in the laws of nature or physics would preclude said scenario from happening. It is a scenario that could conceivably happen. It is not likely to happen, or happen often, but it is possible that it could happen.

So I'll ask again, to someone who said that restrictions on our liberty should be opposed at ALL stops, so do you believe in the above hypothetical scenario, should it ever arise, that there should be any reasonable and rational restriction on that citizen's exercise of his freedom under the first amendment.

Yes or no answer please, thank you for cooperating.

Give me a realistic scenario as yours is quite disingenuous when I was speaking on matters of defending the rights of students to walkout as a demonstration of their liberties.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Banning the AR-15 is nothing more than virtue signaling.
There we go. The cycle is complete. Banning the gun that is used in most of these shootings is just "virtue signaling" because it's not a solution that will stop all of them.

At least I have a new quote for the AR-15. It's "not something special as a firearm". :lol:

Why not ban the Ruger Mini-14 then?

Exact same functionality and round as the AR-15... but not scary looking

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Sure. We can ban that too.

Good luck getting that passed, PS that weapon is not defined by US law as an "assault weapon" under the now expired 1994 ban so you can start to see how comical such labels are.

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Good luck getting that passed, PS that weapon is not defined by US law as an "assault weapon" under the now expired 1994 ban so you can start to see how comical such labels are.
You're the expert. If that's the same gun as an AR15 then let's ban that too. I don't care about 1994 labels either.

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The standard Ruger Mini-14 only has a 5 round capacity and does not come with a collapsible and folding stock. It also takes more work to be fit with a bump stock than other 'tactical' versions of the Mini-14.

One could easily say that the "Ranch" Ruger Mini-14 could be legal and the "Tactical" (tactical for what purpose?) Ruger Mini-14 could be illegal. You don't need 20 rounds, and you don't need to be able to conceal your rifle in your backpack.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
One Post wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
One Post wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
One Post wrote:

So you are saying there should be no restrictions at all on, lets say the freedom of speech.

No restrictions. So if someone wanted to stand on the street in front of your house and play Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at 110 decibels from 2 AM till 6 AM, you don't think there should be any restrictions on this type of political speech?



Give me a real example and I'll play your stupid game


Please see the above referenced hypothetical situation regarding a US citizen lawfully standing on public property and taking no other action aside from exercising his right to free speech as guaranteed by the first amendment. Do you believe that there should be any restrictions on the first amendment rights of this citizen as he is choosing to exercise them in this hypothetical situation.

Yes or no answer please, thank you in advance for cooperating.

Your argument is not based upon any real life scenario, go ahead and come back with a real scenario


The only thing that matters for our analysis is could the scenario possibly happen. Please note how I termed it a hypothetical scenario. Nothing in the laws of nature or physics would preclude said scenario from happening. It is a scenario that could conceivably happen. It is not likely to happen, or happen often, but it is possible that it could happen.

So I'll ask again, to someone who said that restrictions on our liberty should be opposed at ALL stops, so do you believe in the above hypothetical scenario, should it ever arise, that there should be any reasonable and rational restriction on that citizen's exercise of his freedom under the first amendment.

Yes or no answer please, thank you for cooperating.

Give me a realistic scenario as yours is quite disingenuous when I was speaking on matters of defending the rights of students to walkout as a demonstration of their liberties.


Is there anything in the above hypothetical that could not physically occur in opposition to the laws of nature and/or physics?

Please answer yes or no. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.


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The standard Ruger Mini-14 only has a 5 round capacity and does not come with a collapsible and folding stock. It also takes more work to be fit with a bump stock than other 'tactical' versions of the Mini-14.

One could easily say that the "Ranch" Ruger Mini-14 could be legal and the "Tactical" (tactical for what purpose?) Ruger Mini-14 could be illegal. You don't need 20 rounds, and you don't need to be able to conceal your rifle in your backpack.

Even the Ranch Ruger will accept a larger magazine. it ships with 5 round magazines, but will just as easily take a 20, 30, or 40 round magazine.

As for bump stocks, no self respecting rifle user would ever use one as they kill your accuracy when firing. Spray and pray is an awful strategy and bump firing is only good for that.

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Well, I've already shared my thoughts on magazine size but it looks like some states and counties already have magazine size laws.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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Virginia Tech had more fatalities than Columbine and Parkland combined and was accomplished entirely with pistols. How many times do we have to expose your lack of understanding when it comes to firearms?
That's a disingenuous reply given what I even know about the "pistols" that were used.

What do you mean?
When discussing a semi-automatic weapon and the number of deaths, saying "Actually, another semi-automatic weapon killing spree had more deaths" is disingenuous when you leave out the fact that both were semi-automatic.

And yes, I know the response will be something about "You need to learn what semi-automatic means" even though I do know the difference.

Well I don't think that was the point.
The point was you talked of banning ar15s. Ok. But Columbine involved shotguns and pistols. You said that more died as a result of the perp having an ar15 at parkland. Ok. The point was raised that the deadliest school shooting was done with pistols.
I think the point was that a motivated killer will use pistols if an ar15 isn't available.
Perhaps we should be looking at what makes a killer or how we should have used observed behavior to keep any weapon out of a sickos hands when we know they're damaged goods.


I fail to see why this is not taken more seriously as the most effective way to address this. I guess it just feels good to blame inanimate objects for making people kill other people?

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Perhaps we should be looking at what makes a killer or how we should have used observed behavior to keep any weapon out of a sickos hands when we know they're damaged goods.


I fail to see why this is not taken more seriously as the most effective way to address this. I guess it just feels good to blame inanimate objects for making people kill other people?
It's because the gun people would immediately fight against an actual list of non-felons who are "too dangerous" to own guns.

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 Post subject: Re: School Walkouts
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People angry about HS kids exercising their First Amendment rights. Sad.

I am more sad about how bad you are at interpreting others emotions.
Some say that's a sign of a mental illness.

I'm more sad that you don't have the same respect for the rights of MANY people. Some say that's a sign of mental illness.

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

I'm gonna give you some homework. Try to go a couple days without being a patronizing asshole. It might make your board experience more enjoyable.

Are you talking to me or was this some kind of inner monologue?


:lol: On a day when our nation's MANY Travis Bickles are truly frightened of kids coming for their guns, this was too good to be true. Your suburban commando fantasies can still survive this gun grab though, one would think.

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