Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Yeah I'd be down for future sales.

This was an attempt to see if they could do it.
So when we hear "no one is coming for your guns...." we can say "ain't for lack of trying".

Imagine that... an ex post facto law passes the house. It may very well pass the Senate. It requires turning in guns.

If Illinois got away with this, I imagine it's just the beginning.

but I was assured no one wanted to "grab our guns."

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Its beyond fucked up how either side is incapable of compromise.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Sorry the one I'm referring to passed the house not the one rauner vetoed yesterday...



House Bill 1465, as amended by Representative Michelle Mussman (D-56), previously passed the House by a vote of 64-51.  It would deny law-abiding young adults under the age of 21 their Second Amendment rights by prohibiting them from possessing or purchasing commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms, standard capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, and .50 BMG caliber rifles.  The bill would require adults under the age of 21 to dispose of such firearms within 90 days and to dispose of standard capacity magazines over ten rounds in capacity immediately.  In addition, language in the bill would prohibit out-of-state visitors from being present in Illinois for longer than 24 hours with such firearms or standard capacity magazines.

I doubt there would have been any seizure of weapons..at the very worst, under 21 owners could have transferred ownership to a FOID carrying relative over 21. The only cases of this being enforced would be an accompanying crime/incident...traffic stop and they find it in the back seat or something.

Bob do all the pro 2a guys strike you as unwilling to compromise? All ive done the last month is make concessions.

I doubt there would have been any seizure of weapons..at the very worst, under 21 owners could have transferred ownership to a FOID carrying relative over 21. The only cases of this being enforced would be an accompanying crime/incident...traffic stop and they find it in the back seat or something.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Bob do all the pro 2a guys strike you as unwilling to compromise? All ive done the last month is make concessions.

I was going to say similar. Historically on this and other subjects my experience is "I am liberal, I am right, you cave in and I win". That is compromise to the left.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

If you're 18 and own one of those do you risk a weapons felony hoping it's not discovered?
How about the poor bastard driving thru Illinois who isnt aware that something that's legal at 8am Thursday is a felony at 9am friday?

It's complicated, my rep David Welter, a republican, posted on his FB page some reasonable concessions in regards to these bills. He was for regulating new sales, but not current owners(citing the problems of criminalizing existing people)..he took shit from the retards on both the far left and the far right. The middle seems to be shrinking.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Never had a prayer of passing so I wouldn't get worked up. I wouldn't surprise me if the Dems in Illinois wrote the bill knowing full well it wouldn't pass. Remember, in an election year, it's not about actually getting a bill to pass, it's about riding the coattails of legislation(and the news it carries), no matter how shitty or poorly thought out it is.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

What?

This walkout was organized and funded by a political group with an agenda to make laws behind it.

Can you tell me more about this? Which political group? Who was the money funneled to? Are there some 15 year old kids now walking around with some extra popcorn money?

Of course there are. Didn't you see the kinds in their new Cameros? The school that came up with it did it solely because George Soros came to them with a big check. Nothing to do with watching their classmates get smoked.

Don't act like you don't know that only 'the left' never compromises. I mean, aside from years of obstruction during Obama's run of course, but that doesn't really count since he was balck.

I was referring to loudmouths, activists and leftist people in general not Congress.

I was referring to loudmouths, activists and leftist people in general not Congress.

Its beyond fucked up how either side is incapable of compromise.