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Good point, Ryan. Excellent post! You're right, I was talking about why people buy papers generally, not why they buy one over the other. It is interesting that you cite columnists as being important to you, yet your age puts you squarely in the demographic least likely to buy newspapers in the first place. I'd like to know the numbers, but I suspect your demographic (under 30 fan of sports columnists) lags most others in the number of papers they buy.

And while the weather might not seem important to you, both papers feel the need to compete over it, apparently because they understand a lot of their customers are looking for it. To wit: both papers believe weather is so important they put weather headlines on page 1. If columnists were so important to people buying papers, wouldn't we have promos/teases for columnist articles on page 1 rather than weather teases?

I agree Beardown. Good columnists are historically an important part of newspapers. But newspapers are dying. And so is the importance of columnists. If you want a columnist now, there are 100s of websites, news channels and sports channels that will give you all the opinions you want.


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So long as you favor Jay M. from the Sun Times, I'll never be able to respect your opinion on anything other than what day of the week it happens to be.

His writing is pedestrian, predictable, offensive, and juvenile. He made, I'm certain, a great writer for whatever high-school paper gave him his start, and maybe his editors require him to cater to a certain demographic, but I like to think you guys are aiming a bit higher.

Also, it gets annoying when you guys team up on Harry. That makes you seem like bullies---the kind of guy that we all couldn't wait to stop hanging around once graduation came.

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1000 bucks says Patrick is a White Sox fan and if Jay started in on the Cubs, he would love Jay. Jay does a good job of selling papers.


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Do people really buy this newspaper to read Mariotti? I doubt it.


Actually it's one of the few reasons I grab the Sun-Times over the Trib everytime.

Well if there's one of you I'm sure there's more. But then again people also buy those magnetic bracelets off the National Enquirer. So, you know. :wink:

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Darkside wrote:
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Do people really buy this newspaper to read Mariotti? I doubt it.


Actually it's one of the few reasons I grab the Sun-Times over the Trib everytime.

Well if there's one of you I'm sure there's more. But then again people also buy those magnetic bracelets off the National Enquirer. So, you know. :wink:


marriottis a big reason i get the sun times every day


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Bumping this thread for some funny comments I saw - funny how they had a 'technical glitch' and lost the chat transcript apparently from last week with Jay

http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpres ... .html#more


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It's great that many find Jay a "skilled' writer. I still argue that subject matter has to be one of the more important aspects of being a good columnist and this is where dear Jay fails miserably.

Maybe if Mariotti could exhibit the slightest bit of professionalism, I'd be able to appreciate his work, but I can't.

Fuck Jay and his newspaper.


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I'm neither a Sox fan, nor a Cubs fan. I'm a bemused spectator of Chicago sports fans.

Honestly, I listen to SportsTalk radio as much for the sociological analysis as to hear useless updates on whatever Bears back-up OL pulled his hammy while eating a sandwich in Bourbannais this week.

The Cubs overpay for players. The Sox overpay for players. Chicago sports fans overpay for tickets. And Radio hosts are WAY overpaid for talking about them.

In my humble opinion....


Man, I thought this was Dan Bernstein until the part about radio hosts being overpaid. Then, of course, the use of the word 'humble' in referring to his opinion made me sure it's not Dan.


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People do buy the Tribune over the Sun Times on Sunday.

I read all of both sports sections and that's about it.

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