Dude I'm just saying that if you restrict cell phone ownership to 21 and over you save the lives of almost 4000 kids a year. That's a lot of life. Why wouldn't you want to save 4000 teenage lives a year?

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Darko is having a rough night. He'll be better in the morning.

Probably not. Of what use are their responsible gestures against the enormity of their extremist lobbying? How many rank-and-file members are really on board with what the lunatic fringe in control of the group believe and lobby for? I believe guns can be useful tools, even if I grew up in a no-gun household, and I would probably enjoy target shooting. (Hunting seems boring and it's too Wisconsin for me.) But I don't think all guns should be available to all civilians, and I can't imagine many people do.

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Please turn in your shotgun before making any more gun control posts directed at others.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Nobody ever died because a kid brought a cellphone to school.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

That isn't really what it comes down to. Of course intent matters when we're judging someone's actions and meting out punishment. That isn't what we're talking about. Darkside has suggested a way to make teenagers safer only to be mocked for it.

What it comes down to is many people- particularly wealthy people in big cities- understand the utility of cars and cellphones and are willing to sacrifice safety in order to have free use of those things, yet they don't see the utility of firearms in the same way.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Nobody ever died because a kid brought a gun to school.

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Freedom is our Strength.

A cellphone doesn't use bullets.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Um...

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What is the utility of firearms?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Ask me that question the next time you call the police.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Imagine the outrage if someone holding a cell phone got shot up by law enforcement's itchy trigger fingers.

Troll better

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

No.

You told me in another thread I was wrong thinking I was safe because I could call the police.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

That is because when you have seconds to act in defense of your life or property, they are minutes away, and even then they might just cower outside.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I've heard the sarcastic suggestions that both cars and cell phones should be banned if guns are banned. Cell phone communication and efficient mobility via personal vehicles are two of the biggest positive advancements in human history to progress society. On a daily basis, no two other technological advancements combine to make more of a positive impact on quality of life to the average American. How do handguns or tactical rifles fit as a comparison?

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Hell, my community already knows if they need a battering ram, I'm only a few shuffles away. I'm everywhere, all at once. No Confederate Fascist Neo-Nazi can hide from me. And if they so choose, they'll get pumped full of Pete faster than they can scream "Antifa". Fully loaded, automatic, and 100% dead accurate. Maybe you don't know much about boards, but after you've met my four pointed papa, you'll be Eskimo kissing floorboards for an eternity. You won't need to go to space to see stars. So just remember that if you're being harassed by some alt-right white privileged bully. Non-POC? You're DOA.

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6'1", 250 lbs. and barrel-chested. 9.5 inches, uncut. You don't want any of this. Or maybe you do.

I'm pretty sure that without firearms the U.S. wouldn't exist for you to enjoy your car and cell phone.

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We're talking about life in 2018. Opioids were also legal in past history. Would you maybe also consider bringing a bit of tar and feather action back?

Either way, we're discussing restricting 18-20 year olds from buying certain firearms. A 14 year old cannot legally drive.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

So are you now saying that my personal firearm would only be effective if I have it ready to use within a few seconds? I'm going to be honest in saying that I don't think a personal firearm offers much protection if I have to take it with me into the bathroom.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

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Former member, but go on about what I don't know.

That's not true. Many die every day because they brought their cell to school and couldn't resist texting along the way.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

Nobody wants to take your hatch from you. No one says you can't have your hatch now.
We're not suggesting that nobody can have cars. We're suggesting that if an 18 year old does not have the privledge to drive he cannot text while doing it and take innocent lives. We're suggesting that if a 19 year old does not have a cell phone, he will not drive and text and take innocent lives.

Again no Gestapo will come to take your hot hatch from you. You're ok.

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You're not suggesting that only bullets can harm a human being are you?

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Ok. Like I said they do significantly more than what you hear about on tv.

Something tells me you're not really a former member. And I'm pretty sure I wasn't talking to you in this exchange.

Anyway to answer the question ch posted yeah I think the current leadership is fucking up.

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So was your "sensible gun owner" stuff an act?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The beautiful thing about banning 16 to 21 year olds from having cell phones and privledges to drive is that these are not rights guaranteed anywhere! We're not having to change the constitution to do this. We can just act on it and save almost four thousand lives every year! Think about that 4000!
We're not taking away Jimmy's Buick. We dont want Imus not hatch. They can keep those and rub them with a diaper and tell them how hot they are all they want and no one will care.
This is only for the children. Just the babies who are leaving pools of blood on the streets of America because they didn't stop and pull over to send a text.
I dont want to see a pool of teenager blood on the streets and know I could have done something to prevent that. Do you?

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Why?

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