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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.

Yeah uh , I’m not sure why this is a controversial stance . Hymietown?

I didn't even have to mention the DC City Councilman who claimed that Jews control the weather. :lol:

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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.

Yeah uh , I’m not sure why this is a controversial stance . Hymietown?


A few black anti semites doesn't Constitute a movement. The fact is that in the history of this country there hasn't been a large black Anti Semitic movement. As I stated before Jewish people were very instrumental in the Civil Rights Movement. If Blacks had this deep seated hatred for Jews this would have never occurred. This is some bullshit made up by someone people on here happen to like and now it is being excused. Lets call it for what it happens to be. It is a bigoted comment.

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So if I go out and list a number of Jewish People that have engaged in racist behavior (As CH is doing) will it be perfectly ok to stereotype all Jewish people? Something tells me not.

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Is Farrakhan an anti-Semite?

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Is Farrakhan an anti-Semite?


Yes he is an Anti Semite.

From what I remember so was McKinney.

Not Sure of Sharpton. Don't know enough about his views on Jewish People.

Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown were Anti Semitic and it would lead one to believe that he is an Anti Semite.

See How simple that was. There isn't any ambiguity when the info is right in front of you.

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So if I go out and list a number of Jewish People that have engaged in racist behavior (As CH is doing) will it be perfectly ok to stereotype all Jewish people? Something tells me not.


Which recent Jewish political leaders have been racist?

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Is Farrakhan an anti-Semite?


Yes he is an Anti Semite.

From what I remember so was McKinney.

Not Sure of Sharpton. Don't know enough about his views on Jewish People.

Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown were Anti Semitic and it would lead one to believe that he is an Anti Semite.

See How simple that was. There isn't any ambiguity when the info is right in front of you.

Does Farrakhan have a lot of followers?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.


Go down that road if you prefer. If Jesse's Hymietown comments were bigoted then so is CH's. Don't have a double standard (which you obviously have).

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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ltg,
Is Farrakhan an anti-Semite?


Yes he is an Anti Semite.

From what I remember so was McKinney.

Not Sure of Sharpton. Don't know enough about his views on Jewish People.

Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown were Anti Semitic and it would lead one to believe that he is an Anti Semite.

See How simple that was. There isn't any ambiguity when the info is right in front of you.

Does Farrakhan have a lot of followers?


I answered your question now answer mine regarding "black thing" If you can't or won't answer it then this discussion is over. I'm frankly tired of people ducking legitimate questions.

Feigning ignorance regarding what bigotry happens to be isn't going to cut it either.

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long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.


Go down that road if you prefer. If Jesse's Hymietown comments were bigoted then so is CH's. Don't have a double standard (which you obviously have).


Talking about black leaders making anti-semitic comments is bigoted now.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.


Go down that road if you prefer. If Jesse's Hymietown comments were bigoted then so is CH's. Don't have a double standard (which you obviously have).


Talking about black leaders making anti-semitic comments is bigoted now.


His comments were related to black people and not Farrakhan. You might want to go back and reread before commenting. You speak from a position of ignorance.

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I don't think CH attached a negative or positive to his statement and I think that's why I don't view it as ltg does.

Are all general statements automatically negative or wrong?


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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
ltg,
Is Farrakhan an anti-Semite?


Yes he is an Anti Semite.

From what I remember so was McKinney.

Not Sure of Sharpton. Don't know enough about his views on Jewish People.

Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown were Anti Semitic and it would lead one to believe that he is an Anti Semite.

See How simple that was. There isn't any ambiguity when the info is right in front of you.

Does Farrakhan have a lot of followers?


I answered your question now answer mine regarding "black thing" If you can't or won't answer it then this discussion is over. I'm frankly tired of people ducking legitimate questions.

Feigning ignorance regarding what bigotry happens to be isn't going to cut it either.
I did answer it! :lol:

I think it was poor word choice rather than bigotry. The fact that you don't like that answer doesn't mean it isn't one.

So, does Farrakhan have a lot of followers?

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I don't think CH attached a negative or positive to his statement and I think that's why I don't view it as ltg does.

Are all general statements automatically negative or wrong?

Yes and no.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.


Go down that road if you prefer. If Jesse's Hymietown comments were bigoted then so is CH's. Don't have a double standard (which you obviously have).


Talking about black leaders making anti-semitic comments is bigoted now.


His comments were related to black people and not Farrakhan. You might want to go back and reread before commenting. You speak from a position of ignorance.


You literally said an article about Farrakhan's antisemitism was drivel that promoted bigotry and stereotypes. You are being ridiculous in this argument. You know there are activities associated with various races otherwise you would not take criticism of the NBA as racially motivated. You think JLN and CH are racists, and you are going to tell us about it. Noted.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
ltg,
Is Farrakhan an anti-Semite?


Yes he is an Anti Semite.

From what I remember so was McKinney.

Not Sure of Sharpton. Don't know enough about his views on Jewish People.

Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown were Anti Semitic and it would lead one to believe that he is an Anti Semite.

See How simple that was. There isn't any ambiguity when the info is right in front of you.

Does Farrakhan have a lot of followers?


I answered your question now answer mine regarding "black thing" If you can't or won't answer it then this discussion is over. I'm frankly tired of people ducking legitimate questions.

Feigning ignorance regarding what bigotry happens to be isn't going to cut it either.
I did answer it! :lol:

I think it was poor word choice rather than bigotry. The fact that you don't like that answer doesn't mean it isn't one.

So, does Farrakhan have a lot of followers?


Ok so Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown were also an example of poor word choice too.


No Farrakhan Doesn't have lot of followers. See I answer your question also.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.


Go down that road if you prefer. If Jesse's Hymietown comments were bigoted then so is CH's. Don't have a double standard (which you obviously have).


Talking about black leaders making anti-semitic comments is bigoted now.


His comments were related to black people and not Farrakhan. You might want to go back and reread before commenting. You speak from a position of ignorance.


You literally said an article about Farrakhan's antisemitism was drivel that promoted bigotry and stereotypes. You are being ridiculous in this argument. You know there are activities associated with various races otherwise you would not take criticism of the NBA as racially motivated. You think JLN and CH are racists, and you are going to tell us about it. Noted.


Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.

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You literally said an article about Farrakhan's antisemitism was drivel that promoted bigotry and stereotypes. You are being ridiculous in this argument. You know there are activities associated with various races otherwise you would not take criticism of the NBA as racially motivated. You think JLN and CH are racists, and you are going to tell us about it. Noted.


If I may, I don't think it is unreasonable to surmise that when CH says "black antisemitism" he means "antisemitism which arises from people who are black" and NOT "the antisemitism which arises from all black people". In fact, you have to do a lot of work to get from "black antisemitism" to the latter, especially when CH is the poster in question.

It's funny, because a particular board member is fond of a phrase like "board racists" or "board bigots", and chastises people who take either to mean "the board is comprised entirely of [people who I think are] racists/bigots" instead of the more reasonable "[people who I think are] racist members of the board".

Weird how that stuff works, huh?


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I don't think CH attached a negative or positive to his statement and I think that's why I don't view it as ltg does.

Are all general statements automatically negative or wrong?


He stated that blacks hold anti Semitic views and their anti semitism is viewed differently from other forms of anti semitism. In essence it is viewed differently because (i.e more favorable or ignored) because blacks are the ones who are the perpetrators. They lack power thus Who gives a fuck? Their insignificant ass do not really possess the economic or political wherewithal to exact damage on Jewish people so essentially all they have are bad feelings towards them. This form of anti semitism is distinguishable from other forms and hence a "black thing".

There is all type of bigotry and racially promoted stereotypes in what he typed.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

You literally said an article about Farrakhan's antisemitism was drivel that promoted bigotry and stereotypes. You are being ridiculous in this argument. You know there are activities associated with various races otherwise you would not take criticism of the NBA as racially motivated. You think JLN and CH are racists, and you are going to tell us about it. Noted.


If I may, I don't think it is unreasonable to surmise that when CH says "black antisemitism" he means "antisemitism which arises from people who are black" and NOT "the antisemitism which arises from all black people". In fact, you have to do a lot of work to get from "black antisemitism" to the latter, especially when CH is the poster in question.

It's funny, because a particular board member is fond of a phrase like "board racists" or "board bigots", and chastises people who take either to mean "the board is comprised entirely of [people who I think are] racists/bigots" instead of the more reasonable "[people who I think are] racist members of the board".

Weird how that stuff works, huh?


Funny how "ignoring a person" works for you damn idiot?

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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

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long time guy wrote:

Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.

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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.


So you are telling me that you don't like my answer. Doesn't make it wrong. I didn't pick a fight with anyone. I simply exposed once again the vast number of hypocrites that exist on here. I also exposed the inherent biases that exist on here.


If Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown are bigoted then how can "black thing" not be bigoted? Can you riddle that for me bat man?

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long time guy wrote:

Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


If Hymietown is a bigoted comment then how can "black thing" not be?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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long time guy wrote:

Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


If Hymietown is a bigoted comment then can "black thing" not be?

hymietown involves an ethnic slur. CH's comments do not

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:21 pm 
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.

Yeah uh , I’m not sure why this is a controversial stance . Hymietown?

I didn't even have to mention the DC City Councilman who claimed that Jews control the weather. :lol:


Or (the Jewish)Bernie Epton who ran for mayor against Harold Washington in 1983 running a campaign right out of a Jesse Helms playbook. I think his tagline was "vote for Bernie, before it's too late".

But in reality that embarrassment is about as relevant to a 2018 discussion as most of what was cited in that slanted joke of an Atlantic article. Kwame Toure, seriously? WEB DuBois' cited & later redacted remarks??? With a White House staffed over the last 15 months by Nazis, sympathizers and other assorted bigots, the best some can do is a sophomoric piece like this to obfuscate an honest real view of today's republican leadership?

This really may be the dumbest serious attempt at a thread in C(S)FMB history. And BigFan would be citing the same crap that would be just as poorly timed, outdated and irrelevant.

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:22 pm 
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


As usual your bias is showing. The specific point is in regards to his standing in the black community. David Duke has members of Congress that are willing to meet with him and a President reluctant to criticize him yet would you say that he is significant or insignificant in the white community?

David Duke also ran for office and nearly won years ago? Would you say that he speaks for whites?

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