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And BigFan would be citing the same crap that would be just as poorly timed, outdated and irrelevant.
once again, you are saying CHUY comes from JERUSOLEM??

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Where does this large black Anti Semitic movement manifest itself?


Please enlighten me.

let's see, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cynthia McKinney, do you wish for me to continue as I really can give you a much more extensive list if you want to go down this road.

Yeah uh , I’m not sure why this is a controversial stance . Hymietown?

I didn't even have to mention the DC City Councilman who claimed that Jews control the weather. :lol:


Or (the Jewish)Bernie Epton who ran for mayor against Harold Washington in 1983 running a campaign right out of a Jesse Helms playbook. I think his tagline was "vote for Bernie, before it's too late".

But in reality that embarrassment is about as relevant to a 2018 discussion as most of what was cited in that slanted joke of an Atlantic article. Kwame Toure, seriously? WEB DuBois' cited & later redacted remarks??? With a White House staffed over the last 15 months by Nazis, sympathizers and other assorted bigots, the best some can do is a sophomoric piece like this to obfuscate an honest real view of today's republican leadership?

This really may be the dumbest serious attempt at a thread in C(S)FMB history. And BigFan would be citing the same crap that would be just as poorly timed, outdated and irrelevant.


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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


If Hymietown is a bigoted comment then can "black thing" not be?

hymietown involves an ethnic slur. CH's comments do not


So the word black isn't considered ethnic? Ok then it is considered a racist slur. Thanks for debating semantics.

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This really may be the dumbest serious attempt at a thread in C(S)FMB history.


I don't know what is going on around here. Without weighing in on the merits of CH's comment, I know for a fact that he cares more about social justice and equity in our society than most.

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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


As usual your bias is showing. The specific point is in regards to his standing in the black community. David Duke has members of Congress that are willing to meet with him and a President reluctant to criticize him yet would you say that he is significant or insignificant in the white community?

David Duke also ran for office and nearly won years ago? Would you say that he speaks for whites?
Now what bias would that be? LTG, as usual you are full of shit and the rest of the board sees you for what you are.

David Duke is awful and Trump's games of playing kissy foot with his supporters is one of the many reasons why he was unfit for office. With that said, Duke holds no real power. Farrakhan on the other hand has power as the leaders of several large progressive activist groups are in his camp and refuse to condemn him. Furthermore, deputy DNC chair Keith Ellison regularly meets with him. I don't know any Congressman who regularly meets with Duke.

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This really may be the dumbest serious attempt at a thread in C(S)FMB history.


I don't know what is going on around here. Without weighing in on the merits of CH's comment, I know for a fact that he cares more about social justice and equity in our society than most.


When you make comments that promote stereotypes then you have to be held accountable for it. When you make presumptuous statements claiming that there is some widespread movement involving blacks and anti Semitism then you have to be called on it. I don't have time or interest in knowing what is in a person's heart. If Jesse Jackson can make a Hymietown statement and there can be uniform agreement regarding anti Semitism then referring to something as exclusively a "black thing" can be racist and bigoted. If a person can make a statement regarding something that is completely false regarding blacks and anti Semitism then they have to be held accountable.

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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


If Hymietown is a bigoted comment then can "black thing" not be?

hymietown involves an ethnic slur. CH's comments do not


So the word black isn't considered ethnic? Ok then it is considered a racist slur. Thanks for debating semantics.

Black is not an ethnic slur. Hymie is. This is a pretty basic distinction.

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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.


So you are telling me that you don't like my answer. Doesn't make it wrong. I didn't pick a fight with anyone. I simply exposed once again the vast number of hypocrites that exist on here. I also exposed the inherent biases that exist on here.


If Jesse's comments regarding Hymietown are bigoted then how can "black thing" not be bigoted? Can you riddle that for me bat man?


Calling people hypocrites isn't starting a fight? Come on now.

Hymie is a derogatory term. Why would criticizing the NBA be offensive to you if it wasn't considered a "black thing"? What's your opinion on the entire cultural appropriation movement given your stance that saying black thing is offensive?

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Dude his comments were related to blacks that hold anti semitic views. You are "embarrassing" yourself. You aren't alone though. The spinning on this was fully expected though. It is funny how there was complete agreement about Jesse's comments. Not one dissenter in the bunch. It is disingenuous as hell.

i don't even know if Sharpton has a history of Anti Semitism either. I don't recall him making Anti Semitic statements.


You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


As usual your bias is showing. The specific point is in regards to his standing in the black community. David Duke has members of Congress that are willing to meet with him and a President reluctant to criticize him yet would you say that he is significant or insignificant in the white community?

David Duke also ran for office and nearly won years ago? Would you say that he speaks for whites?
Now what bias would that be? LTG, as usual you are full of shit and the rest of the board sees you for what you are.

David Duke is awful and Trump's games of playing kissy foot with his supporters is one of the many reasons why he was unfit for office. With that said, Duke holds no real power. Farrakhan on the other hand has power as the leaders of several large progressive activist groups are in his camp and refuse to condemn him. Furthermore, deputy DNC chair Keith Ellison regularly meets with him. I don't know any Congressman who regularly meets with Duke.


David Duke was almost elected gov. I know because I was a student at the time. No one among us has defended Farrakhan either. I labeled him an Anti Semite. If you want me to discuss power I can. I'm not a follower of Farrakhan so I don't what the hell you are referencing. You speak from a position of hypocrisy and ignorance if you believe that Farrakhan speaks for black people. He doesn't but If you are going to suggest that he speaks for Blacks then I'm going to suggest that guys like Trump and Duke speaks for whites.

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You've picked a fight with nearly the entire board, you've cited yourself an expert in "race relations", and now you are deflecting. Farrakhan is a black leader with many followers who is openly anti-semitic. Thus it is a black thing.

I don't think people are offended by calling the Charlottesville incident a white thing, understanding that it doesn't mean all whites are Nazis.

If everyone else if the asshole, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror on this one.

It's funny how Farrakhan is dismissed as being insignificant, yet he has a large following in Congress of people who meet him at his hotel whenever he is in DC. Quite insignificant there.


If Hymietown is a bigoted comment then can "black thing" not be?

hymietown involves an ethnic slur. CH's comments do not


So the word black isn't considered ethnic? Ok then it is considered a racist slur. Thanks for debating semantics.

Black is not an ethnic slur. Hymie is. This is a pretty basic distinction.


When you attach "thing" to that designation then it becomes a stereotype. I'm glad to see that the hypocritical drumbeat continues.

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When you attach "thing" to that designation then it becomes a stereotype. I'm glad to see that the hypocritical drumbeat continues.

You're the only one beating this drum. Most of the board is collectively rolling its eyes at you.

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If what CH wrote is bigoted, then we just can’t have discourse about anything in this country anymore.

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Saying "black [thing]" is bigoted now? Ok.

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When you attach "thing" to that designation then it becomes a stereotype. I'm glad to see that the hypocritical drumbeat continues.

You're the only one beating this drum. Most of the board is collectively rolling its eyes at you.


So another guy that presumes to know what others are thinking? this is weak and not unexpected coming from a guy with the biases that you possess. It has been demonstrated in other threads how you lack an ability to be objective. You also have an inability to reason effectively either. The mere fact that you have attempted to focus on two things that are unrelated to comment (Farrakhan) and (Some article) as opposed to the comment itself is all the validation I need.

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Saying "black [thing]" is bigoted now? Ok.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2933315



Isn't this clown supposed to have me on ignore? Or do we have to provide a definition of what that word means. There is something wrong with him. Seriously.

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In reading his posts for nearly 7 years, I feel comfortable saying the only bigotry Curious Hair has is towards White Sox fans. And maybe Toews.

The post in question seems like a poor choice of words at worst.

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In reading his posts for nearly 7 years, I feel comfortable saying the only bigotry Curious Hair has is towards White Sox fans. And maybe Toews.

The post in question seems like a poor choice of words at worst.

He also has a hatred for the free market

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In reading his posts for nearly 7 years, I feel comfortable saying the only bigotry Curious Hair has is towards White Sox fans. And maybe Toews.

The post in question seems like a poor choice of words at worst.

He also has a hatred for the free market
...and douchebag and me.

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In reading his posts for nearly 7 years, I feel comfortable saying the only bigotry Curious Hair has is towards White Sox fans. And maybe Toews.

The post in question seems like a poor choice of words at worst.

He also has a hatred for the free market


Have you read his posts?

Free Market sucks.

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In reading his posts for nearly 7 years, I feel comfortable saying the only bigotry Curious Hair has is towards White Sox fans. And maybe Toews.

The post in question seems like a poor choice of words at worst.

He also has a hatred for the free market
...and douchebag and me.

He does however have a love for socialist congressmen who have spent 30+ years in office with no real accomplishments to their name.

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Wait, is it seriously being suggested that Curious Hair is racist for saying 'black', or do I misunderstand something?

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Wait, is it seriously being suggested that Curious Hair is racist for saying 'black', or do I misunderstand something?

That's exactly what happened. As I said to LTG, the board is collectively rolling its eyes at him

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Or (the Jewish)Bernie Epton who ran for mayor against Harold Washington in 1983 running a campaign right out of a Jesse Helms playbook. I think his tagline was "vote for Bernie, before it's too late".


I'm pretty sure that was created by the Democratic ward organizations rather than something put out there by Epton himself or his campaign.

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ltg, can you explain to me (simply and without drowning it in nonsense) why you consider CH saying 'black' to be racist? Follow-up, does this apply to any non-black saying 'black'?

Keep in mind I'm not really one of the attack dogs against you ... I'm just looking for an answer/explanation, if you're inclined to provide one. This is probably the cleanest, most open shot you're going to get (imho) to frame what your intent was/is.

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Wait, is it seriously being suggested that Curious Hair is racist for saying 'black', or do I misunderstand something?


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He stated that blacks hold anti Semitic views and their anti semitism is viewed differently from other forms of anti semitism. In essence it is viewed differently because (i.e more favorable or ignored) because blacks are the ones who are the perpetrators. They lack power thus Who gives a fuck? Their insignificant ass do not really possess the economic or political wherewithal to exact damage on Jewish people so essentially all they have are bad feelings towards them. This form of anti semitism is distinguishable from other forms and hence a "black thing".

There is all type of bigotry and racially promoted stereotypes in what he typed.


I don't have the same interpretation as you. I might be wrong but that doesn't make me a bigot, hypocrite, or complicit.


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Or (the Jewish)Bernie Epton who ran for mayor against Harold Washington in 1983 running a campaign right out of a Jesse Helms playbook. I think his tagline was "vote for Bernie, before it's too late".


I'm pretty sure that was created by the Democratic ward organizations rather than something put out there by Epton himself or his campaign.


I don't remember it that way, but Bernie sure as hell didn't complain about or disavow it, I'm certain

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