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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:40 pm 
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If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?


He pandered to them?

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?


He pandered to them?


He really didn't. If blacks are inherently Anti Semitic and hold the sort of biases expressed by CH then nothing would have led us to vote for him. There was also a black candidate or 2 as I recall that ran.

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If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?

THis may take awhile.

Maybe they were more anti-Latino. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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tommy wrote:
long time guy wrote:
If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?

THis may take awhile.

Maybe they were more anti-Latino. :lol:


Or anti Black. :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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long time guy wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
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If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?


He pandered to them?


He really didn't. If blacks are inherently Anti Semitic and hold the sort of biases expressed by CH then nothing would have led us to vote for him. There was also a black candidate or 2 as I recall that ran.


So black voters aren’t capable voting based on issues other than just identity?

I’ve never noticed that.

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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Farrakhan only exists to appease the extremes on each side.

I can't remember the last time most took him seriously. But that thinking got us trump.


How many Twitter followers does a Jew-hater need to be taken seriously?

Twitter followers? This guy has high ranking Congressmen and leaders of marches which get millions to show up supporting him and scared to criticize him. If he is so powerless, then why can't they simply condemn him and cut ties with him.

The real answer is that black antisemitism is seen as separate from and less pernicious than European antisemitism, and thus less necessary to condemn. Blacks who hate Jews because of slumlords or slave merchants haven't carried out exiles, pogroms, or genocides as a result, and even if they wanted to, they've never had the power to do so, so it's handwaved away and more or less left alone as one of those black things outsiders can't understand, like those NBA jackets that have every team's logo on them. The fact that southern blacks all but refused to vote for a Jew in the Democratic primaries was something the media superficially acknowledged without ever exploring, and I wish they had explored it and laid this issue bare.



Hey Leash maybe I need to bump this for you as a sort of reminder as to who actually first made reference to "Identity politics"

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What about Hillary and her emails?

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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long time guy wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
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Farrakhan only exists to appease the extremes on each side.

I can't remember the last time most took him seriously. But that thinking got us trump.


How many Twitter followers does a Jew-hater need to be taken seriously?

Twitter followers? This guy has high ranking Congressmen and leaders of marches which get millions to show up supporting him and scared to criticize him. If he is so powerless, then why can't they simply condemn him and cut ties with him.

The real answer is that black antisemitism is seen as separate from and less pernicious than European antisemitism, and thus less necessary to condemn. Blacks who hate Jews because of slumlords or slave merchants haven't carried out exiles, pogroms, or genocides as a result, and even if they wanted to, they've never had the power to do so, so it's handwaved away and more or less left alone as one of those black things outsiders can't understand, like those NBA jackets that have every team's logo on them. The fact that southern blacks all but refused to vote for a Jew in the Democratic primaries was something the media superficially acknowledged without ever exploring, and I wish they had explored it and laid this issue bare.



Hey Leash maybe I need to bump this for you as a sort of reminder as to who actually first made reference to "Identity politics"


What does this have to do with what we were talking about?

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
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Farrakhan only exists to appease the extremes on each side.

I can't remember the last time most took him seriously. But that thinking got us trump.


How many Twitter followers does a Jew-hater need to be taken seriously?

Twitter followers? This guy has high ranking Congressmen and leaders of marches which get millions to show up supporting him and scared to criticize him. If he is so powerless, then why can't they simply condemn him and cut ties with him.

The real answer is that black antisemitism is seen as separate from and less pernicious than European antisemitism, and thus less necessary to condemn. Blacks who hate Jews because of slumlords or slave merchants haven't carried out exiles, pogroms, or genocides as a result, and even if they wanted to, they've never had the power to do so, so it's handwaved away and more or less left alone as one of those black things outsiders can't understand, like those NBA jackets that have every team's logo on them. The fact that southern blacks all but refused to vote for a Jew in the Democratic primaries was something the media superficially acknowledged without ever exploring, and I wish they had explored it and laid this issue bare.



Hey Leash maybe I need to bump this for you as a sort of reminder as to who actually first made reference to "Identity politics"


What does this have to do with what we were talking about?



CH stated that blacks didn't vote for Bernie because he was Jewish. It wasn't my point yet you directed the response at me as if it was.

Identity politics applies in some instances. Not all. I don't think that Bernie's faith played a role in blacks not voting for him. Its a bullshit point. Can you address that particular point because it has been made before on here in and it has no basis in fact.

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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As I told you previously, I disagreed with that notion in the original thread and argued against it. But you told me I wasn’t specific enough to Southern blacks.

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?

THis may take awhile.


Well Nas said Chicago blacks don't know if people are Jews or not. But Rahm is part of the democratic machine and was their preferred candidate is the answer.

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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I have a different take on Farrakhan. And that is: He's entitled to his ideas. Some may be reprehensible ideas but so what? I don't think there need be any demands for anyone to "denounce" him. People are allowed to have stupid ideas, wrong ideas, even hateful ideas.

That said, these hypocrites deserve to have Farrakhan's ugliest ideas tossed right in their faces because they are so full of shit.



I agree. I think anyone should be allowed to hate whomever/ or whatever groups of people they wish to. I don't need Farrakhan to like me or anyone that looks like me, just as I should be entitled to have no use for him nor anyone that looks like him as well. But when either he or I or anyone else advocates for violence against anyone, that is where a line has been crossed and measures need to be taken.

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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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No I'm not implying that. It doesn't have to be personalized. I'm just truly wondering how people on here can claim credibility when they can accurately portray regarding Hymietown as one of bigotry while ignoring comments regarding "black thing".

I haven't really addressed the presumption regarding the notion that there is some widespread black Anti Semitic movement in this country either.

As far as Jewish racism if (I wanted to drudge down that path) I'd simply have to look no further than our esteemed Mayor. I'm not much interested in that because it is irrelevant to the decision. There is a strong case to be made regarding him and racism.

I'm merely focusing on the comments regarding blacks being anti Semitic. That is where my focus happens to be. Those charges are unfounded and baseless.

It is inherently stereotypical for anyone to claim that Jesse or Louis Farrakhan are the voices for the black community. THat is the other thing that came from this too. It belittles African Americans to think this way. We don't exist in a monolith.


Again, my interpretation of his post is much different than yours. I don't get the feeling he thinks there is a widespread Anti Semitic movement. I can't speak for him though, maybe ask, but at this point I don't know if he'll answer.


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 Post subject: Re: SJW's for Farrakhan
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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If blacks are so Anti Semitic and there is widespread AntiSemitism then why did blacks in this City no less throw there support behing Emanuel during his first election?


Can someone answer that for a brother?

THis may take awhile.


Well Nas said Chicago blacks don't know if people are Jews or not. But Rahm is part of the democratic machine and was their preferred candidate is the answer.


If they don't that a Jewish person is a Jewish person then its impossible for them to be Anti Semitic. Thanks for answering.

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