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24 years ago on this day, Kurt Cobain allegedly killed himself. Personally, I thought Nirvana was overrated but that's my opinion and I'm usually wrong. The podcast 'Conspiracy Theory' dedicated the last two episodes to the theories behind who killed him. I am about 80/20 that Cobain killed himself.

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He likely killed himself.

The music was not overrated.

After watching the most recent HBO videos of him with Love, I can't imagine how horrible a life he lived to turn out the way he did, a scrawny drug addict.

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Every few years it seems the consensus on Nirvana's music fluctuates between overrated and great


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I don't know if they were great, but they are important.

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I don't know if they were great, but they are important.

This is my sentiment. I thought they were overrated back in the 90s when I was in high school, but I was an original hipster so that isn't too surprising as I was going around talking about the greatness of Mudhoney.

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The music was a huge impact culturally. Did it influence future music? I'm not as sure. There were a lot of copycats, but I don't think they experimented or had the influence of music like, say, The Beatles. Lyrically some of the stuff all In Utero was really good and some of it was just crap. Nevermind and Bleach are more for the sound than the lyrics, with some obvious exceptions.

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Never was a huge Nirvana fan, but I dug the hits like everybody else.

The conspiracy stuff behind Kurt's death are intriguing and likely have some grains of truth to them, but I don't think Courtney Love is anywhere near smart enough or clever enough to have orchestrated that. The documentary about it does make you wonder a bit, but ... eh. He probably ate the gun.

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Layne Staley OD'd in a Seattle apartment on April 5, 2002...

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Layne Staley OD'd in a Seattle apartment on April 5, 2002...

Yeah, but he had been pretty much dead for 2-3 years before that.

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Nirvana ruined music and the 90s.


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Spaulding wrote:
Nirvana ruined music and the 90s.

:roll:

What would have been better? The continuation of garbage hair bands?

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Nirvana ruined music and the 90s.


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Spaulding wrote:
Nirvana ruined music and the 90s.

Poison ruined music and the 80's.

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Spaulding wrote:
Nirvana ruined music and the 90s.

Poison ruined music and the 80's.


What about LA Guns?

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What would have been better? The continuation of garbage hair bands?


Yeah. 80s pop too.


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Spaulding wrote:
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What would have been better? The continuation of garbage hair bands?


Yeah. 80s pop too.


Ugh...small doses...everything in moderation.

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I'll take a small dose of Nirvana then. Really small.


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Nirvana is the first classic rock that is good.

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if only there had been a good guy with a gun there to stop this


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if only there had been a good guy with a gun there to stop this

Or a guy with string.

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I don't know if they were great, but they are important.

I'll agree with that.

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Some really bad, bad, bad, bad, thoughts in here. Nirvana was fucking legendary.


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Nirvana was fucking legendary.
Agree, they were very important.

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Nirvana was important, in that they helped usher in the Grunge Era, but I didn't find anything particularly special about the music.

Frankly, I thought their best song was the Bowie cover on the Unplugged album.

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Frankly, I thought their best song was the Bowie cover on the Unplugged album.


Their covers were tremendous. My personal favorite would be Jesus Doesn’t Want Me For A Sunbeam, the demo version. The unplugged track is outstanding as well.

How about those three Meat Puppets covers - Lake Of Fire, Plateau, and Oh Me.

There might be enough to put together an 80 minute disc, or at least close to it.

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They only had 3 studio albums plus the unplugged stuff. myself I wasn't a huge fan of In Utero, but imagine if Cobain doesn't blow his head off and they have a chance to release more albums?


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if you like grunge, they were important, if you didn't, they sucked. is about what i gather when people talk about nirvana. i know guys who think the melvins and lemonheads are 100x better than nirvana and are the true pioneers of the grunge era. which is probably right but the melvins and lemonheads weren't as good.


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Panther pislA wrote:
Frankly, I thought their best song was the Bowie cover on the Unplugged album.


Their covers were tremendous. My personal favorite would be Jesus Doesn’t Want Me For A Sunbeam, the demo version. The unplugged track is outstanding as well.

How about those three Meat Puppets covers - Lake Of Fire, Plateau, and Oh Me.

There might be enough to put together an 80 minute disc, or at least close to it.


If he were still alive he would probably just be hanging around the Mariners singing the anthem and stuff like Vedder.

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24 years ago on this day, Kurt Cobain allegedly killed himself. Personally, I thought Nirvana was overrated but that's my opinion and I'm usually wrong. The podcast 'Conspiracy Theory' dedicated the last two episodes to the theories behind who killed him. I am about 80/20 that Cobain killed himself.


He was murdered. Courtney Love prime suspect.

I didn’t really listen to them until the guy died. Just to see what the big deal was about. I liked what I heard and now it’s classic rock. I wonder if they gained a lot of fans the same way.


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If he were still alive he would probably just be hanging around the Mariners singing the anthem and stuff like Vedder.


I liked them, but I do think a lot of the love comes from him dying. Nirvana ended before they had a chance for everyone to get sick of them.


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