politics threads are easy to ignore.

everyone is still nice/cordial outside those threads

Yeah, but you also left this board because it was too negative about the Bears, who have been one of the worst teams in the league while you were gone because we were too negative about the Bears.

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They would be if there weren't several a day. I should do my part to ignore those posts, so I'm not without blame.



I'm glad we finally know the cause.

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Some of this is opinion presented as truth. While it is truth, it's your truth. It may be shared by many or few but it doesn't make it absolute.

There are biases. People let things slide because they like or know the poster. But maybe one post or several bad posts aren't typical of a poster, and you know somebody is having a hard time. Or maybe people don't want to deal with the ramifications of saying something to somebody that seems like a crazy asshole or just plain asshole. Maybe it isn't that annoying or the person is easily ignored. Maybe they make fun of the guy in pm's. I don't really read baseball or basketball threads often and that's why I wouldn't police those sections.

As for the bolded part, I have a hard time understanding your pov. I don't think you were ignored or blamed. I don't think the majority of the 20-25 people were rude or disrespectful, they gave you an honest and (some) a heartfelt maybe logical opinion. You don't seem to appreciate being called anti semitic (and I would not either) if I was trying to have a serious and honest discussion. Would a sociology class or book deny your supposed/accused anti semitism? Is there any way to prove that? It seems you want to be afforded the benefit of the doubt that you aren't quite willing to extend to others. I would probably have asked CH for a clarification or expansion but at this point he doesn't owe me or anyone else that.

It is a tight knit community. That's evident when someone is going through something or when someone tries to destroy the community. Like all family we have strong opinions and some strong disagreements.

The 3 Wisemen come from different backgrounds and have different views on MANY things but we get along well despite the occasional heated disagreement. This community is the same way when folks meet offline.

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I think what has changed is a couple of things. We are less civil to each other over all and we are willing to cross bounderies with each other that we did not cross before,also the moderation style allows it.
For better or worse back when BF had the board some of the things done would have lead to long term penalty box if not out right perma ban.The IMu-Chus thing would have defiantly lead to IMU being gone for a long long time and the cabal around the stuff with me the same, I seem to remember one of the wisemen getting into a huge tiffy just because his inclusion in a group photo at a board outing was posted on the board with out his permission. Then as I was not paying attention there was some personal info posted on the board a week or so ago,even though it was taken down where the perpetrators banned as we where told would be done after the last incident ,or as is usual they are friends with the admins and it was all pohhh-poohed.
We have gone from guys hanging at the bar to Salesmen in a Used car lot going after each other tooth and nail. The other thing is while it may seem to be a good thing for total hands off moderation,it usually in the long term kills a board because abusive posters drive away the more moderate posters.People come to a place like this for entertainment not for thread after thread post after post of the same couple of guys having the same argument. Sometimes the admins need to step in and do their jobs.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Impending regime change.

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When you start deleting a bunch of stuff or banning people before you know it you're wiping away huge chunks of board history and banning everyone. I think our approach of being members instead of a God is best.

I still don't want my image or name posted here. If anyone wants to know what I look like they can come to a board event.

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So you all made a rule but are not going to enforce it?

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

What rule was made up and not enforced? We've NEVER threatened to ban anyone.

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Any particular thread is easy to ignore. The problem in part lately is people following each other around all threads attacking and ultimately shorting nearly all of them up.

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Elections have consequences.

Doxxing is not banning offense,cool

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I don’t come here as often. I like it but try to stay out of the political stuff.

Before it was more free dealing and ppl came to unwind and shoot the breeze. It seems more serious now.

Actually a sociology class would clear it up in heartbeat. Criticism of the Israeli state isn't in of itself anti Semitic. I've never made a negative comment about Jewish people. If I have then its fair game. Actually he was pretty clear. There isn't any ambiguity about that and that is why I mentioned sociology. Stereotypes are stereotypes and you know them when you see them. I was actually ready to move on but some aren't apparently. They keep referencing it as if I what said was out of bounds. It isn't. This isn't me saying that either. They weren't rude or disrespectful but what they didn't do was call him on it. That says a lot.


This isn't about the people that never speak on this stuff either way. With some it just isn't their thing. I get that.

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Nope. We just delete the post. Neither is being convicted of a crime.

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Cool it, Chas. bigfan banned MANY people for lesser offenses. He also let much more egregious stuff stay on the board.

If your last name is part of your username and somebody puts that into Google, its your own damn fault for choosing such a silly username.

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Too easy.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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Do furries get political?

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Damn, Chas.

Merked

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Where does plotting to kill a dog fit in?

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We must secure the existence of furries and a future for furcons

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I don't know that the tone has changed all that much. Certainly political discussions are more prevalent but as has been noted they are also easy to avoid. I do think the seemingly endless bickering that takes over some threads can be tedious. The realization that not every perceived slight requires a response, letting things go rather than always needing to get in the last word and occasionally admitting you might be wrong would benefit MANY.

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If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists

It's just a message board. I always feel like these type of self evaluations of an online community are gayer than cum on a mustache.

I have to wonder if Hitler was out for his morning walk and he saw those three if he wouldn't personally drive the train to take them away.

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It's the weather. People want to go outside and grill and drink and go for walks(well, not everyone here wants to go for a walk). People will be nicer when we can do that in late June.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

There's no reason to not grill in this weather. #Snowflakes

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.

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