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 Post subject: Re: What has changed?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm 
What's amusing to me is the people who are crying that everything went south during the 2016 election are the very people who could be sent into a tizzy about the breakfast order of the guy running the show the 8 years previous.

If you don't want the political shit to ruin your day, then don't click on the political threads.

If you don't want memes being carried around, then maybe look at why the meme is being carried and jump in. (i.e. one of the favorite ones to cry about, maybe ask Juicy to just shut the fuck up and admit nobody actually threatened him)

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What is the thing with "view active topics? I'd never noticed that til someone complained about it.

Is there a"view active topics" etiquette that everyone needs to know about?

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I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Just name names. Every message board has cliques, and this one does a pretty damn good job of not letting it affect arguments. Of course it does a little, but not to near the extent it could be.

So just name names.

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I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Just name names. Every message board has cliques, and this one does a pretty damn good job of not letting it affect arguments. Of course it does a little, but not to near the extent it could be.

So just name names.



It effects most every argument. The reason that its the "same guys arguing" all the time is because they are the only ones that will mix it up with one another.


Many have spoken openly about how they thought such and such was an asshole then they had a few drinks and then saw them in a different light. Well that "different light" more than likely affected posting habits too. Actually its sort of Trump like.

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I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Just name names. Every message board has cliques, and this one does a pretty damn good job of not letting it affect arguments. Of course it does a little, but not to near the extent it could be.

So just name names.


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leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Just name names. Every message board has cliques, and this one does a pretty damn good job of not letting it affect arguments. Of course it does a little, but not to near the extent it could be.

So just name names.



It effects most every argument. The reason that its the "same guys arguing" all the time is because they are the only ones that will mix it up with one another.


Many have spoken openly about how they thought such and such was an asshole then they had a few drinks and then saw them in a different light. Well that "different light" more than likely affected posting habits too. Actually its sort of Trump like.


No, the reason it's the same people is because they're the only ones who can maintain that stamina (or care to).

I will agree with you that the group of guys on the Facebook chat is a bunch of bitches, though.

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leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Just name names. Every message board has cliques, and this one does a pretty damn good job of not letting it affect arguments. Of course it does a little, but not to near the extent it could be.

So just name names.



It effects most every argument. The reason that its the "same guys arguing" all the time is because they are the only ones that will mix it up with one another.


Many have spoken openly about how they thought such and such was an asshole then they had a few drinks and then saw them in a different light. Well that "different light" more than likely affected posting habits too. Actually its sort of Trump like.


No, the reason it's the same people is because they're the only ones who can maintain that stamina (or care to).

I will agree with you that the group of guys on the Facebook chat is a bunch of bitches, though.


Yeah an outside FB gossip room is lame.

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I'm not that damn important.


You don't really believe that.


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I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Generally I think when anyone speaks of cliques in settings like this it betrays a certain kind of insecurity. This insecurity may compel you to respond to every single slight, perceived or otherwise, from every single poster, and then imagine alliances when in fact there might be none. You seem too old to be that insecure. I'd rather you just say what you got to say and let your argument stand for itself. And ignore the noise.

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Don't f@g me.

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leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
long time guy wrote:
I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Just name names. Every message board has cliques, and this one does a pretty damn good job of not letting it affect arguments. Of course it does a little, but not to near the extent it could be.

So just name names.



It effects most every argument. The reason that its the "same guys arguing" all the time is because they are the only ones that will mix it up with one another.


Many have spoken openly about how they thought such and such was an asshole then they had a few drinks and then saw them in a different light. Well that "different light" more than likely affected posting habits too. Actually its sort of Trump like.


No, the reason it's the same people is because they're the only ones who can maintain that stamina (or care to).

I will agree with you that the group of guys on the Facebook chat is a bunch of bitches, though.


Yeah an outside FB gossip room is lame.

:lol:

How dare people associate outside of this board.

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I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Generally I think when anyone speaks of cliques in settings like this it betrays a certain kind of insecurity. This insecurity may compel you to respond to every single slight, perceived or otherwise, from every single poster, and then imagine alliances when in fact there might be none. You seem too old to be that insecure. I'd rather you just say what you got to say and let your argument stand for itself. And ignore the noise.



On the contraire the need for groupthink in every seem single argument is a sign of insecurity. The secure man rides alone. People that seek or speak or need consensus all the time display more insecurity than anyone. The shit is so contrived its laughable at times.

This isn't even me because i can handle it.

Its just so fucking phony that its not even able to be camouflaged anymore..

I'm sure if i decided to bump selected threads i'd find the same guys placed in a blender when it is blender. This aint shit in the grand scheme of the things. If people need a message board in order to find an identity they are fucked up anyway.

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long time guy wrote:
I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Generally I think when anyone speaks of cliques in settings like this it betrays a certain kind of insecurity. This insecurity may compel you to respond to every single slight, perceived or otherwise, from every single poster, and then imagine alliances when in fact there might be none. You seem too old to be that insecure. I'd rather you just say what you got to say and let your argument stand for itself. And ignore the noise.



On the contraire the need for groupthink in every seem single argument is a sign of insecurity. The secure man rides alone. People that seek or speak or need consensus all the time display more insecurity than anyone. The shit is so contrived its laughable at times.

This isn't even me because i can handle it.

Its just so fucking phony that its not even able to be camouflaged anymore..

I'm sure if i decided to bump selected threads i'd find the same guys placed in a blender when it is blender. This aint shit in the grand scheme of the things. If people need a message board in order to find an identity they are fucked up anyway.


Have you ever considered that you just have contrarian beliefs on things rather than there being a conspiracy to gang up on you? I mean, people with uncommon thoughts are needed in society, but they also shouldn't be surprised when they're disagreed with a lot.

I'm sure 99% of NBA fans think the Warriors are better than the Bulls. Is that just groupthink?

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leashyourkids wrote:
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long time guy wrote:
I'd like to think the cliquish nature of some of this stuff would change also. You know in advance which guys will argue and be in agreement before you ever read a post. It is not always about argument but some of this stuff gets stale and redundant after awhile. You want to make it fresh and lively then should be able to disagree with a person that you normally agree with. I can predict which guys will be put in the message board blender prior to ever reading anything in the comment section.

I also know which guys will be providing the blender. Same stuff each and every time.


Generally I think when anyone speaks of cliques in settings like this it betrays a certain kind of insecurity. This insecurity may compel you to respond to every single slight, perceived or otherwise, from every single poster, and then imagine alliances when in fact there might be none. You seem too old to be that insecure. I'd rather you just say what you got to say and let your argument stand for itself. And ignore the noise.



On the contraire the need for groupthink in every seem single argument is a sign of insecurity. The secure man rides alone. People that seek or speak or need consensus all the time display more insecurity than anyone. The shit is so contrived its laughable at times.

This isn't even me because i can handle it.

Its just so fucking phony that its not even able to be camouflaged anymore..

I'm sure if i decided to bump selected threads i'd find the same guys placed in a blender when it is blender. This aint shit in the grand scheme of the things. If people need a message board in order to find an identity they are fucked up anyway.


Have you ever considered that you just have contrarian beliefs on things rather than there being a conspiracy to gang up on you? I mean, people with uncommon thoughts are needed in society, but they also shouldn't be surprised when they're disagreed with a lot.

I'm sure 99% of NBA fans think the Warriors are better than the Bulls. Is that just groupthink?


It ain't about me.
i told you i can handle it. Its a message board after all.

Let me give you a list of guys no matter what who i know will be put in a blender regardless of argument. Not all time but most.


McNown
Sini
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Chas

No matter the situation or discussion the attempt will be made to blender them..

The shit is so disingenuous as i no will agree or disagree before i read the post. Its obvious they are responding to post and not poster.

You never ever see certain guys disagree about anything.

You and others claim to want a better board then that would be a way to have it. It may be the reason that some post anymore.

Unpopular poster A shows up and like moths to a flame certain guys show up.

When unpopular poster makes a relevant point then the herd invariably will change the subject.

Its simply phony as hell.

If it bothered me much then i wouldn't post. It is more an observation than anything.

If people want a better board than that would be a way to achieve it.

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You trying to act as though McNown is picked on unfairly completely ruins your credibility on the subject. He's basically a caricature who shows up and starts mouthing off in every thread. You're not even slightly objective about any of this stuff.

Elmhurst Steve has actually voiced that he yearns for a time when black people knew their place. Chas has made some very inappropriate comments about families before. And I even stood up for Chas yesterday because Baby McNown called him a kid fucker! Are we reading the same board?

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You trying to act as though McNown is picked on unfairly completely ruins your credibility on the subject. He's basically a caricature who shows up and starts mouthing off in every thread. You're not even slightly objective about any of this stuff.


He still makes relevant points on a lot of shit though. He says some shit that makes your eye roll at times but i think people have problems with him because he has strong opinions.

To quote the great MLK we can disagree without being disagreeable.

Some see certain posters and instinctively begin the personal attack. They know they will get cover that is why they continue to do it.

When is the last time anyone called Frank out for the bullshit he pulls in those White Sox threads? When have you ever called him out on it?

I say this as a guy that is not as bothered by it as i'm more observant of it.

If you are going to be consistent with your complaining then be consistent. I don't see that a lot on here.

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You trying to act as though McNown is picked on unfairly completely ruins your credibility on the subject. He's basically a caricature who shows up and starts mouthing off in every thread. You're not even slightly objective about any of this stuff.


He still makes relevant points on a lot of shit though. He says some shit that makes your eye roll at times but i think people have problems with him because he has strong opinions.

To quote the great MLK we can disagree without being disagreeable.

Some see certain posters and instinctively begin the personal attack. They know they will get cover that is why they continue to do it.

When is the last time anyone called Frank out for the bullshit he pulls in those White Sox threads? When have you ever called him out on it?

I say this as a guy that is not as bothered by it as i'm more observant of it.

If you are going to be consistent with your complaining then be consistent. I don't see that a lot on here.


Are you really gonna defend McNown in the same paragraph that you say we can disagree without being disagreeable? He is the most insulting person on this board! And his opinions are hacked partisan talking points, nothing else. You really need to step back and read his posts, dude.

And no I've never called out Frank in Sox threads because I rarely read Sox threads. How the hell would I call him out? I call him out all the time in Cubs threads. You just seem to read what you want to read.

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You trying to act as though McNown is picked on unfairly completely ruins your credibility on the subject. He's basically a caricature who shows up and starts mouthing off in every thread. You're not even slightly objective about any of this stuff.

Elmhurst Steve has actually voiced that he yearns for a time when black people knew their place. Chas has made some very inappropriate comments about families before. And I even stood up for Chas yesterday because Baby McNown called him a kid fucker! Are we reading the same board?

:lol: :lol: A balck guy is concerned about Shreve getting the bum's rush most everytime he posts ... that's the real takeaway from his post.

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This board, which we all love, has always been a haven for those who like to argue about pretty much anything. I can’t think of a time as long as I’ve posted here that Rick and I weren’t arguing about variance or JORR and Rick weren’t arguing about pro football or RPB and Nas weren’t arguing about Bernie. And it all seemed to be in good fun, even if it got occasionally heated.

So, I genuinely ask, what is different about the arguments that now infest the board? Maybe it’s just me, but one minute of reading that “Racism turned WWII” thread makes me want to light myself on fire. Anyone else agree? If not, I’ll shut up. If so, what are the differences that make it so unreadable?

And, yes, LTG, I am in fact acting as the message board police.



Ok when was the last time that you felt that the belaboring bullshit of frank was a problem?
Also no one really talked race during WWII. It morphed into it and it wasn't necessarily a bad thing.

Just because something isn't your thing doesn't mean its necessarily a bad thing. I see that a lot in what you post. You show up in threads to bitch and moan about content just because its not your thing.

There are a number of things that i'm not into on here. If I'm not into i don't comment.
Everyone is free to voice their opinion but the notion that the opinion of certain posters should necessarily take precedence over others is B.S.

I find guys that show up in certain threads simply for the purpose of bitching about certain posters. How is that contributing to a better board?

Sometimes discussions evolve. I'm in education and i'd be screwed up if i stopped an engaging discussion simply to "stay on task".

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Ltg... do you realize that Elmhurst Steve calls you an "undesirable" and would not even break bread with you because of your skin color?

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 Post subject: Re: What has changed?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:18 pm 
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Don Tiny wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
You trying to act as though McNown is picked on unfairly completely ruins your credibility on the subject. He's basically a caricature who shows up and starts mouthing off in every thread. You're not even slightly objective about any of this stuff.

Elmhurst Steve has actually voiced that he yearns for a time when black people knew their place. Chas has made some very inappropriate comments about families before. And I even stood up for Chas yesterday because Baby McNown called him a kid fucker! Are we reading the same board?

:lol: :lol: A balck guy is concerned about Shreve getting the bum's rush most everytime he posts ... that's the real takeaway from his post.



:lol: :lol:

Yeah it is kind of fucked up but i got to call them as I see them.

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