When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Meredith offered a deal by the Saints. No word on money. Bears have...I think 5 days to match?

They have to match right?

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Two years, $10 m. $8.5 ish guaranteed. I'm pretty sure Pace will match that.

So they matched Fuller in less than a second but are going to wait until the last minute to match Meredith? If they let Meredith walk its really bad. Its fine if they tendered him without compensation if the idea was to bring him back. But if $8.5m is all it takes them to abandon that plan its time to really consider that they have no idea what they are doing.

The Fuller deal was AWFUL.

The timetable thing is just bothersome and not really a sign of incompetence. They should have done this same thing with Fuller maybe they are learning. I'm not huge on bringing back Fuller but I like it more than you do. They have too many holes to invest heavily in defensive back in this draft, and they were going to sack up for any of the big defensive backs in free agency.

The only reason I could see them not matching is if they are planning on trading down and grabbing Ridley in the teens (Buffalo's 12 maybe) with one of the QB hungry teams. Having Ridley in the slot makes Meredith the 4/5 WR and you aren't paying 5 mil per for that.

Not buying it. Either Pace is doing is guys in New Orleans a solid or he is becoming more incompetent as a GM as time goes on.

Pace just isn't good. I think he is unintentionally stupid.

if the knee is still bad you cut your losses after year 1.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Make your case the Pace is good at his job. He only seems good at drafting running backs and supposedly they want to trade his best pick because he hired a coach who can't use him.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Make your case about how you could run things better. I mean if he's getting so much wrong, I want to hear why he's doing so poorly. Honestly! I'm trying to be objective about this because you and I have butted heads on the Bears for awhile, and I'd like to know where the angst over Pace comes from, and this goes for everybody.

• LOSING: Makes sense. Inherited a crumbling situation and is still crawling out of it, but fans want wins over anything else.
• TAKING TOO LONG: I get it. People want their Bears Sundays to be fun and enjoy seeing a competitive team. When shit doesn't work for a chunk of years, outrage from fans becomes a thing.
• DRAFTING BUSTS: Not really true. Kevin White's saga hasn't fully played out yet, but people have been fixated. There's still another year or two more before we can look at Pace's draft classes and say, "holy shit he's drafted a lot of mediocre-to-bad players," but I don't find that to be true. Clock is ticking, however.
• FREE AGENCY WOES: I agree with a lot of the sentiment about Pace's shitty free agency moves. The Glennon contract wasn't a bad contract per se, as it had the trademark 1-year guarantee that Pace throws out there, but what really pissed me off about Glennon was that the whole goddamn world knew he was a dogshit quarterback. Like not a fucking hope or prayer of ever being worth a single fuck. I wasn't pissed that they paid him for a year of wasting everyone's time, I was pissed from an evaluation standpoint that they ever thought he could be good. Between that and the McPhee thing (bad knee was well known around league as an issue, yet they gave him big money anyway), the Slauson departure (felt greedy and timing was terrible), and not closing out the deals on Bouye/Gilmore, clearly he needs to get that in order. That isn't as simple a thing to sum up with, "well Pace is a bad GM, and that's why." Pace may not have been right on the dollar/years, players didn't want to come to play for Fox knowing he would be fired, and any other number of things. At least Akiem Hicks is kicking some ass.
• HE TALKS ALL DUMB AND STUFF: He's got the microphone gravitas of a cinder block, but this is a really poor reason to come out against the guy. I'd like to hope most people don't buy into "stupid voice = stupid guy," but I should know better.

Clearly, Pace is the best of the most recent GMs.

What is the case that he is good at his job? Debunking your own guesses on my reasons isn't sufficient.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Since you'd rather simply bitch, I'll give it a shot I guess, although I don't really know why since you're just going to shit in my cornflakes no matter what I say.

Better than Emery(maybe) but not Angelo.

2002 Draft Class

1st: OL Marc Colombo - Couldn't stay healthy in Chicago, but went on to have a solid career in Dallas.
3rd: DB Roosevelt Williams - I’m not even sure who he is.
3rd: OL Terrence Metcalf - Somehow, Metcalf stuck on the roster for 9 seasons, despite being terrible. Now out of the NFL.
5th: DB Bobby Gray - Another bad defensive back that never did anything in the NFL.
5th: LB Bryan Knight - Yeah, who's this guy? He’s no longer in the NFL, and only lasted two seasons.
6th: RB Adrian Peterson - A utility player for the most part. Good on special teams, and was a good back up running back.
6th: WR Jamin Elliot - Never caught a pass.
6th: TE Bryan Fletcher - Never played a down for the Bears, and was out of the league shortly after.

2003 Draft Class

1st: DE Michael Haynes - A continuation of the 1st round Angelo busts.
4th: Todd Johnson - Not the worst player in the world, just nothing special. Decent back up, and a solid special teams contributor. Out of the NFL.
4th: DT Ian Scott - Not a great player, but in a defensive line rotation, he could contribute a bit. Nothing special. Now out of the NFL.
5th: WR Bobby Wade- This guy got cut because he fumbled punt returns, and he was a bad receiver. Bad pick.
5th: WR Justin Gage: Never did anything on the Bears, and couldn't catch a pass with his stone hands. Found some life on the Titans, but nothing to hoot and holler about.
5th: DL Tron LaFavor - Zero sacks in his NFL career.
6th: LB Joe Odom - Never saw any playing time after the Bears got rid of him.
6th: RB Brock Forsey - Two years, two teams, and is now out of the NFL.
7th: WR Bryan Anderson - I have no clue who this even was, and apparently he never made a roster.

2004 Draft Class

2nd: DT Tank Johnson - Everyone remembers the weapons he had. But when Tommie went down in 2006, Johnson played a key role in the Bears going to the Superbowl.
3rd: WR Bernard Berrian - It's safe to say, Rex Grossman made Berrian. Got him a big contract, and then he disappeared. One trick pony.
4th: LB Leon Joe - Never did anything, now out of the NFL.
5th: DL Claude Harriott - Who?
5th: QB Craig Krenzel - I'm not even going to remind you, I don't think thats necessary.
7th DB Alfonso Marshall – Uhhh ... Who?

2005 Draft Class

1st: RB Cedric Benson - Bust (For the Bears at least).
2nd: WR Mark Bradley - A big time reach, for a receiver that barely did anything in college. Blew out his knee in 2005 and that was the end of Bradley.
5th: WR Airese Currie - All the hype around this guy and his speed, never got him on the field.
7th: DB Rodriques Wilson - Good special teams player, but was never anything more than that.

2006 Draft Class

3rd: DT Dusty Dvoracek - Dusty couldn't stay healthy, and never contributed that much when he was. Wasted pick.
4th: LB Jamar Williams - Williams never amounted to anything in the NFL. Currently not on a roster.
5th: Mark Anderson - Anderson burst onto the scene with 12.5 sacks in his rookie year, but fell off after that. Has found new life in New England, but never did anything else on the Bears post 2006.
6th: RB J.D. Runnels - Never saw any action in the regular season.
6th: G Tyler Reed - Who?

2007 Draft Class

2nd: DE Dan Bazuin - With the 2nd round pick they got for Thomas Jones, they drafted Bazuin. Needless to say, Bazuin never saw the field.
3rd: RB Garrett Wolfe - Big time reach for a miniature running back. Made special teams plays, and got arrested in the off-season.
3rd: LB Michael Okwo - I still don't remember ever seeing Okwo on the field. Not in the NFL anymore.
4th: OG Josh Beekman - Was drafted to be the future center, then they made him a guard...then he was a center...and then he was cut.
5th: DB Kevin Payne - Payne made a few plays in his time in Chicago, but ended up just being bad. Got cut by the Bears, and picked up by St. Louis. Ultimately, he couldn't stay healthy at all. Not in the NFL.
5th: DB Corey Graham - Graham played well when he was asked to start in 2008, and is a big time star on special teams. Graham is the best gunner in the league, and even made plays when inserted at nickel back this season. Notched his first Pro Bowl this season.
7th: DB Trumaine McBride - Never amounted to much in the NFL, but is still floating around a roster somewhere.
7th: Aaron Brant - Seriously, I've never even heard of this guy until now. Lets just say, hes not in the NFL ... or ever really was.

2008 Draft Class

1st: OT Chris Williams - Came in hurt, and bad at left tackle. Has found new life at left guard, but overall is a bust. The Bears drafted him to be a left tackle, and hes now a left guard.
3rd: DT Marcus Harrison - Constantly fat and out of shape.
4th: DB Craig Steltz - Not a starter, but has proven to be good safety depth.
5th: DB Zack Bowman - Consistently getting beat for big touchdowns. Complete waste.
5th: TE Kellen Davis - Hasn't contributed too much, but 9 of his 28 career catches are touchdowns. Hasn't been able to show if he can do anything since he's in a Mike Martz offense.
7th: DE Ervin Baldwin - Never contributed.
7th: OG Chester Adams - Adams never once got onto the field.
7th: LB Joey LaRocque - Currently not employed in the NFL.
7th: OT Kirk Barton - Yet another guy who couldn't even stick on a roster.
7th: WR Marcus Monk - Went back to college and played basketball.

Throwing up yet?

2009 Draft Class

3rd: Jaron Gilbert - This guy could jump out of a pool, but couldn't shed a block.
3rd: Juaquin Iglesias - Never saw any action on the field, and has yet to record a catch in the NFL.
4th: DE Henry Melton - Having himself a solid year, statistically. Lovie and the gang changed his position to defensive tackle, and hes excelled at times.
4th: DB D.J. Moore - Very good nickel back, and is probably the best blitzer the Bears have on the roster. Good later round find by Angelo.
5th: WR Johnny Knox - One of the most frustrating players in recent Bears history. With speed that makes your head spin, he just leaves you scratching your head at times. After getting hurt this season, who knows if he will ever play again.
5th: LB Marcus Freeman - Angelo has a history of finding bad linebackers that don't even make a roster.
6th: DB Al Afalava - Showed flashes here and there, but ultimately was cut. No longer on an NFL roster.
7th: OG Lance Louis - Louis has turned into a solid player. He has looked good at right guard, and even at right tackle from time to time. Worth keeping on the roster moving forward.
7th: WR Derek Kinder - Yeah, this guy isn't in the NFL.

2010 Draft Class

3rd: DB Major Wright - He left college early because he was going to get replaced, and hasn't done much at the next level. Wright hasn't been able to stay healthy, and is very inconsistent.
4th: DE Corey Wootton - outside of ending Favre's career, Wootton hasn't been healthy enough to even know what the Bears have in him.
5th: DB Joshua More - Hasn't done anything in the NFL.
6th: QB Dan LeFevour - Didn't make the Bears roster.

2011 Draft Class

1st: OT Gabe Carimi - Season was ended by a knee injury, giving Bears fans visions of Marc Columbo all over again.
2nd: DT Stephen Paea - The Bears traded up to get this guy, and he has looked okay at times. Seems like they might have found themselves a good defensive tackle moving forward. The jury is still out.
3rd: DB Chris Conte - After the horrible play of the Bears safeties, Conte was forced into action early. He has looked okay, but had his season ended by an injury. Conte might be an okay player moving forward, but he's nothing to hang your hat on.
5th: QB Nathan Enderle - Martz wanted this kid in the draft, and hes the typical big slow Mike Martz quarterback. But he hasn't seen the field since Jay got hurt, and will be gone once Martz is gone.
6th. LB J.T. Thomas - Rookie season was ended by an injury, and he now rests on injured reserve.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.

Ok, I'll pass on responding then since you can't handle it.

When it comes to the Bears, America is just a slobbering shitwagon. Every single opinion of his regarding this team is the most pristine of doomsday horseshit.