Pretty good article about a proposed stadium that never went anywhere.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the- ... d-history/

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Cliff Notes.. ↓ is a dump that nobody goes to(but hey Jerry got it for free)...the superior baseball experience is as Wrigley.

cool article. that would have been a great ballpark if they went with it. But probably better for them to move to the suburbs where most of their fans are nowadays.

Superior for a Cub fan, I guess. The only thing really superior is more day games and those will be gone soon enough.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Day games fucking suck, during the week at least. Get rid of them all.

Maybe 1 day game a week but not 4 days a week. Put them all at night. It helps the team also.

Get w/ the times Cubs.

Why is he sitting in the 500 section in September of last year?

You mean Wrigley that had to be pretty much rebuilt after he created this?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Nope, wrong again, baseball stadiums should be centrally located because you need to get 30,000+ in and out of them 81 times a year. Chicago has it right with Wrigley and Comiskey (and if anything, the Cubs have a more suburban fanbase, so you're wrong twice here).

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Wrigley was rebuilt with PRIVATE funds and yet the Cubs value has doubled. Snake Jerry makes the broke state of Illinois pay for his shithole. One group did it right, the other wrong. Karma. As my friend Stinky Friar once said, "Early ripe, Early rotten".

Baseball needs to take a lesson from the NFL, which spread out its product to make it more accessible. Instead of having games stacked up at 7:00-ish local time, they could easily spread out the games across the league. They should make it cheaper/easier to stream/listen to all games so that people can follow those games while at work and pass the time. For fantasy players, it gives them something to pay attention to. When all the games are starting within the same block of time each night, it is very hard to follow out of market teams.

I think Ohtani pitching at 1:00 Central is a better deal for the league than 9:00 at night.

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Well currently, the way it's structured now is making MLB owners billions in terms of TV deals. Of course, IMO, the bubble could burst and I think it's a bit of penny-wise pound foolish in terms of future generations.

Look at the Cubs nationwide cult that exists today because in the 60-70s you could easily find WGN on TV.

I would love it if MLBAM gave us radio for free. In this video-centric world, they should. The NHL is the only league with free radio streaming, which means that some degenerate somewhere is paying to stream NBA radio play-by-play.

As for a block of late-afternoon starts, don't they already do that on Sundays with everyone playing a 1 p.m. first pitch except the featured game and the Rangers? The west coast teams start around 3 or 4. I suppose they could extend that to Saturday, but it wouldn't really work on weekdays; I can't imagine you can really fit in a 4 p.m. first pitch into weekday traffic patterns with universal success.

EDIT: I forgot that Fox is very protective of the late-afternoon start

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Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.

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I always thought the Sox should have built a Park west of Soldier Field. In the 80s, that area was largely vacant. The park would have been at the center of the now revitalized South Loop. You have transit and parking. People could have walked from their loop offices to games. Still south side. Would have been called “Soxville.”

Nope. Baseball should be played in the day. It's funny to hear guys claim how "special" Wrigley is when they actually hate it.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm excited to see what the new owners get for a new stadium.

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Baseball is a regional sport. Not a national TV show.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Bob, we have lots of Wisconsin transplants aged 35-60 in our office. They are both Cubs and Brewers fans, which of course was easier when the two were in separate leagues. But I always ask these guys how they could be rapid Packers/Badger fans and Bears haters, and yet cheer just as much as I do for the Cubs. To a man, they say WGN. The Cubs and MLB really screwed up when they tanked the idea of a super station for their package product. WGN created an entire out of market generation of Cubs fans. Now you have to go all over the dial to figure out where Chicago sports teams are playing, and WGN America doesn't carry all the games.

Make it more accessible, not less.

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The motherfuckers that go to day baseball don't even work. That's why they're out at the fuckin' game!

In terms of infrastructure, the current site is tough to beat: Red Line, the Beverly/south-suburban Metra line, the Dan Ryan, and lots of parking. (I wonder if it would ever be worth it to build even a temporary part-time stop on the Southwest Line to Orland Park and thereabouts, because that's right there too.) Yeah, DA NEIGHBORHOOD isn't Wrigleyville, but it's by design; the Sox want a walled garden where you're spending all your money under the auspices of the team. The Cubs want that too, of course, they're just having a little more trouble putting up the walls.

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I get it, and maybe it can't change. But MLB has incredibly marketable stars that very few people ever get to see- Trout, Kershaw, the Astros, Ohtani now, Stanton/Judge, Harper, etc. But when all the games start at the same time or start very late in East and Central markets, folks can't watch those games.

Jorr, spot on with Wrigley and day games.

CH, heck yeah to the free streaming idea.

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The effects will be felt about 20 or so years from now. But the owners got their billions now and will be dead then, so they don't care.

The Cubs need a connector from the Addison/Irving train stops along I-90 out to Clark. It can take me 2.5 hours to get home. That stretch from the field to I-90 is terrible.

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WGN proved that a team can be marketed well outside its region. My bus driver used to play the Cubs on the bus when I was in elementary school. People need things to do while working. Baseball is perfect. I had the White Sox on in my office yesterday. Baseball is tailor made for radio.

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Losing nationally aired local games on WGN and TBS has been terrible for baseball. You should want more exposure, not less. It's not like baseball has been in hot pursuit of Nashville, Charlotte, or Raleigh and needed to scale back the Braves' reach.

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Park at Cumberland by OHare, blue line it in and Uber the few miles to Wrigley.

Exactly. The only saving grace is that the MLB Network is great with its timely live look ins. I enjoyed their coverage of Ohtani's last start.

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disagree. ricketts has the west, north and east pretty much captured to build his rosemont fantasy

It is the stretch from Irving to Wrigley via road that is the biggest problem especially after a day game. I have tried every method. I am down to the Express Pace bus from Schaumburg now...$4 each way.

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