Once women start to bring their uncle in to negotiate salary for them the wage gap will disappear.

Rick's not going down that road. For every professor you find he can find one who says something different.

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I'm just glad that JORR no longer denies a wage gap exists and instead just blames the women who make less for it!

That's progress.

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Timely article on court ruling. The ruling totally makes sense. In fact, what a stupid argument by the company as to the pay disparity.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-equal-pay-9th-circuit-20180409-story.html

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Bernie-bro Brick is going to demand all offices have built in nurseries next. Otherwise it's not a viable business anyway. It's funny that the solution is to not incentivize people to work as much.

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The ruling is horseshit. In fact, it has nothing to do with gender. The person hired for $13k more could have also been a woman who made more at her previous job.

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A company should be able to pay anyone whatever they want for no reason at all. With the exception if there is a systematic bias against certain protected classes doing the same job.

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She had more experience and education. Isn't that supposed to be the reason people make more money?

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I believe this was a government job.

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Nobody denies that if you add up all women's salaries and divide by the number of women earning them and then do the same for men that the men's figure will be higher. That's not what "wage gap" means. "Wage gap" is a political term that suggests there is some patriarchal unfairness at play.

There is undoubtedly a wage gap between Dr. Ken and Ike South and between denisdman and Beardown. That doesn't mean the gap is unfair.

That's why I specifically posted the video. A White House that was insistent on beating the drums on "wage gap" somehow made the mistake of highlighting the wage gap among men and women working in its own administration. Suddenly there was a reason for that gap that had nothing to do with gender.

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So, does a wage gap exist among similar positions?

I think we all understand the flaw in the overall wage gap statistic. Do you also think the similar experience and position numbers are wrong?

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Those would be a couple of factors, yes. But a couple other factors could be a) the candidate made more at his previous job and would not accept less, and b) the employer may have an immediate need and a shortage of candidates and needs to pay market (or above market) price to get someone right away.

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There’s not really any legislation required here either way.

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But why argue that you paid her less because of what she used to make? You argue you paid her less for real reasons- her experience, time to train her, etc etc. There are supposedly real reasons you paid her less. Just use those as your reasons. She was worth $70k to you because ...

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But that isn't what happened here and they didn't claim it was.

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Pay inequality is a problem. We can argue the extent of it 5-20% difference. If we allow subsequent employers to pay solely based off what prior employers paid, we cannot fix the inequality gap. It just shields and reinforces discrimination.

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You'll see this argument at used car dealers. The salesman will say he can't sell the car you want for less than $30k because he's "got $30k into it." I don't care that he paid $27k for it and spent another $3k repairing it and cleaning it. The market says the car is worth $25k. If he won't sell it to me for my price, fine. I don't think he should be required to sell at my price nor I should be compelled to buy at his price.

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I'm just talking in general terms -- and government/union jobs are a different animal.

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I'm not sure if there is or not but I wasn't thinking about legislation here, just how businesses are viewed vs individuals

"They're running a business" is justification for anything to some.

I used to feel similarly, but I just think it's a naive mindset. The history of mankind shows us that when push comes to shove, there is one thing that trumps all else - resources and money. It's great that we live in a wealthy modern day society where we can protect people's rights and compel those with the resources to comply with certain equality practices. But at the end of the day, that's still just a luxury afforded by immense wealth. The little guy doesn't have immense wealth (relatively speaking). He or she cares about himself and his family. Equalizing a perceived biological "unfairness" will only be a priority for this person once money/resources is not really a concern. Do you really blame them for that?

It's similar to the Hollywood mindset people get so tired of where a bunch of millionaires preach at poor people about all these progressive ideas. The poor people aren't comfortable enough to give a shit about those ideas. They're just trying to put food on the table. That's just human nature, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

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women should make the same but they should also be expected to do the same amount of work. No more days off because your kids or sick than the person who does not have kids or I have to get the kids to pottery class so I can't stay late yet she gets the same amount of credit when the project is done.

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Which is why equality isn't solved by the free market.

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Equality of what?

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Interesting 60 Minutes last night with the CEO of Salesforce virtue signalling while admitting that his company pays women less. If he's actually paying them less for the same performance and admitting it on television, why isn't he getting huge fines? Oh no, it's not his fault! It's systemic and societal. He should clean up his own backyard. All he has to do is walk into the office this morning and give all the women raises. Problem solved.

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I think the underlined portion of your post is often missed by employees.

The person running and owning a business is trying to put food on their own table, while also doing the same thing for their employees as well.

It's very easy for an employee to sit back and cast doubt on the intentions of their employer. And it is often done with good reason. But more often I think, the employee doesn't realize, or doesn't want to assume the same risks that their employer has taken.

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That's the real victim here: company owners.

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If your labor costs go up by giving out raises, your price to your customers goes up. If your productivity increases, or you suddenly gain a bunch of new customers because you are so socially conscious, your price can then go down. Or stay up.

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