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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:38 am 
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Telling somehow how to parent their child is a dick move but I'll help you out since you appear to be absolutely clueless on how to educate on this subject/situation.
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How "sensitive" does my child have to be?

Be a normal human.
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Can my child ask questions about it?

Yes.
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What speech will be appropriate for my child to use?

He.

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That's subjective. I don't know there is a definitive right/wrong that anybody can give as to same sex couples having kids. I do have questions and concerns for the child. They weren't met with anything other than contempt and saying I don't like people that aren't like me and it's close minded. A few people shared positive experiences where it has worked. Great. It does not feel like I have the right to question it or voice concerns whether they are right or wrong.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:45 am 
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MANY people agree the parents are exploiting their child looking for re-tweets. It'd be a douchbagging if the kid was saying he's a ladies man. 3 year-olds don't know about any of that stuff.

But you add homosexuality to the mix and homophobes like Toxic Masculinity or Spaulding get really scared for who knows why


That's not true.

Lots of talk about things being problematic and needing and wanting important conversations. The conversation is often very one sided and really means I just want to say what I want to say and if you disagree you are hateful and shitty.


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I don't know there is a definitive right/wrong that anybody can give as to same sex couples having kids.
Unless you have a problem with any child raising situation where it isn't the married biological parents living together then yes there is a definitive right/wrong.

For someone who is complaining about their views not being "accepted" you are not accepting of a huge portion of parents who are either: unmarried, divorced, single parents, or other non-traditional.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:54 am 
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Unless you have a problem with any child raising situation where it isn't the married biological parents living together then yes there is a definitive right/wrong.

For someone who is complaining about their views not being "accepted" you are not accepting of a huge portion of parents who are either: unmarried, divorced, single parents, or other non-traditional.


That's not true either. Nothing is as black/white as you try to make it. That's not what I have said and that's not what I think. For you to make it that is disingenuous. You are free to think what ever you want but if that's the direction you are going to take it then there is no point is continuing the conversation.


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Do you think gay couples should be allowed to adopt?

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YES OR NO


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:14 am 
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I never liked Kinison.


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I never liked Kinison.


He was hilarious in "Back to School", though. Have to admit that.


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I never liked Kinison.


He was hilarious in "Back to School", though. Have to admit that.

Wasn't bad on that Christmas episode of Married with Children either.

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Do you think gay couples should be allowed to adopt?

No.


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I never liked Kinison.


he had one little schtick and he was good at it. lucky for him he died before people got real sick of it.

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Spaulding wrote:
I never liked Kinison.


he had one little schtick and he was good at it. lucky for him he died before people got real sick of it.



He probably didn't see it that way.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
I never liked Kinison.


he had one little schtick and he was good at it. lucky for him he died before people got real sick of it.



He probably didn't see it that way.


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Spaulding wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Telling somehow how to parent their child is a dick move but I'll help you out since you appear to be absolutely clueless on how to educate on this subject/situation.
Spaulding wrote:
How "sensitive" does my child have to be?

Be a normal human.
Spaulding wrote:
Can my child ask questions about it?

Yes.
Spaulding wrote:
What speech will be appropriate for my child to use?

He.

You're welcome


That's subjective. I don't know there is a definitive right/wrong that anybody can give as to same sex couples having kids. I do have questions and concerns for the child. They weren't met with anything other than contempt and saying I don't like people that aren't like me and it's close minded. A few people shared positive experiences where it has worked. Great. It does not feel like I have the right to question it or voice concerns whether they are right or wrong.

I think that's just the way it is though with all people straight or otherwise. People are sensitive about parenting.

Dont you think you'd show some contempt if someone raised questions about your parenting or your household set up?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
I think that's just the way it is though with all people straight or otherwise. People are sensitive about parenting.

Dont you think you'd show some contempt if someone raised questions about your parenting or your household set up?


I'm not. I don't know if what I'm doing is right half the time. My mom comes in all the time and questions and parenting. I really don't care, sometimes she's right, sometimes I tell her if she doesn't like it go home. I don't get mad about it. This righteous indignation because somebody doesn't agree with you or celebrate whatever you are doing is over the top.


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Spaulding wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I think that's just the way it is though with all people straight or otherwise. People are sensitive about parenting.

Dont you think you'd show some contempt if someone raised questions about your parenting or your household set up?


I'm not. I don't know if what I'm doing is right half the time. My mom comes in all the time and questions and parenting. I really don't care, sometimes she's right, sometimes I tell her if she doesn't like it go home. I don't get mad about it. This righteous indignation because somebody doesn't agree with you or celebrate whatever you are doing is over the top.

Even though I 100% disagree with your stance on the parental issue, the last part I generally agree with. Though I don't think that's what RPB is doing - he just asked you a question. It is common in our society, though. I'm guilty of it as well.

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Spaulding wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I think that's just the way it is though with all people straight or otherwise. People are sensitive about parenting.

Dont you think you'd show some contempt if someone raised questions about your parenting or your household set up?


I'm not. I don't know if what I'm doing is right half the time. My mom comes in all the time and questions and parenting. I really don't care, sometimes she's right, sometimes I tell her if she doesn't like it go home. I don't get mad about it. This righteous indignation because somebody doesn't agree with you or celebrate whatever you are doing is over the top.

Well, good for you. In my experience if you even slightly suggest a parent could do something better they get pretty pissed.

I think grandparents get a pass though.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
I never liked Kinison.


He was hilarious in "Back to School", though. Have to admit that.

The chick who gave the stupid answer right before Dangerfield got involved was hot (in an 80s sort of way).


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I think that's just the way it is though with all people straight or otherwise. People are sensitive about parenting.

Dont you think you'd show some contempt if someone raised questions about your parenting or your household set up?


I'm not. I don't know if what I'm doing is right half the time. My mom comes in all the time and questions and parenting. I really don't care, sometimes she's right, sometimes I tell her if she doesn't like it go home. I don't get mad about it. This righteous indignation because somebody doesn't agree with you or celebrate whatever you are doing is over the top.

Well, good for you. In my experience if you even slightly suggest a parent could do something better they get pretty pissed.

I think grandparents get a pass though.

True, apart from the ones who are still trying to boss/tear down their own children.


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Do you think gay couples should be allowed to adopt?


I can't really give a yes or no answer. It should always be what is in the best interests of the particular child in need of a home. For some it may go well, for some it may not.


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Spaulding wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Do you think gay couples should be allowed to adopt?


I can't really give a yes or no answer. It should always be what is in the best interests of the particular child in need of a home. For some it may go well, for some it may not.

So your answer is yes.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Well, good for you. In my experience if you even slightly suggest a parent could do something better they get pretty pissed.

I think grandparents get a pass though.


Grandparents should get the least pass, I might be trying to correct some of the crazy stuff they tried to do.


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So your answer is yes.

thank you


If it's fair to the child. In some cases it won't be, so then my is also no. But it's yes if it works for that particular child.


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And I don't really think the gov. should be involved in it.


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Spaulding wrote:
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Do you think gay couples should be allowed to adopt?


I can't really give a yes or no answer. It should always be what is in the best interests of the particular child in need of a home. For some it may go well, for some it may not.

That's why there are a lot of background checks.

Sounds like you are on board!

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Spaulding wrote:
Whatever.

I mean, aside from you and Rick's thing, it truly sounds like you're saying if they are good people and care for the child, you're fine with it.

No one is asking if every gay couple should be able to have a kid without any due diligence on the couple first.


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Yeah, there are straight couples who shouldn't have kids either.

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Yeah, there are straight couples who shouldn't have kids either.

Like the parents who are the subject of this thread!


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