I thought I understood but now you guys have both gone far right.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Even the Bernie supporters don't want to touch this dark side of single payer

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I honestly don’t know that my views on the social issues we argue about are “Right.” There was a period of time when they would have been considered Liberal. It’s hard to really categorize views on social issues.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

but ultimately that only works in your family as long as those people are children. once those babies are able bodied enough to help, they help. if the justification for socialism is that many adults in society are baby minded idiots than yes. this almost sounds like trying to equate socialism with love and caring.

That's still "socialism" though. I'm sure denisdman expects his children to contribute to the household, but not as much as he contributes. And I wasn't trying to "equate" anything. I was echoing Goldberg's point that when you get down to a certain level, everyone supports socialist concepts. Just like when you get down to a certain level everyone supports border walls. A border wall is why I can't come into your house and raid your fridge.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yeah I didn't say it was necessarily a bad thing. We try and try to think of the betterment of others in detriment to ourselves. It goes against our nature.

Maybe Liberals are just tilting at windmills when trying to make the haves and have nots more equal.

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I think we're all doing some self-examination and thinking today after the death of Bob Rohrman.

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There are some people that touch everyone and force that type of introspection.

Gandhi.

Mother Teresa.

Bob Rohrman.

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Jerry Sandusky

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Jerry Sandusky touched everyone as well

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

No, no. You can't compare. There's only ONE Bob Rohrman.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Not if they're over 16.

Or an icky girl.

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yeah giving a bum a nickle is effectively "socialism". he may argue this but or may not but to me socialism is a form of government. you can't wittle it down to an interaction between 2 people and call what transpires socialism. at what point to we draw the line? thats a great question. maybe that is socialism.

his argument is that the more people you add to the socialism equation the more difficult it is to maintain it then?

I have always viewed it as a timing matter. Sometimes it seems as if the change liberals want they want immediately and great results. Reality is that usually things are changed incrementally and only fully realized much later than the first great efforts. Not really interested in specific examples but there are clear ones in the course of the 20th century.

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I love you mike.

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He didn't really make that argument, at least not in what I read. But I'm making it. For socialism to work, you have to actually have concern for your fellow citizens.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Or you throw a few million people in gulags.

There is nothing that can be done for your fellow citizens so we shouldn't try.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I wouldn't consider that "working". Just like killing Alfie isn't evidence of socialized medicine working.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Ogie has me on ignore.

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And nothing of value was lost...

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The far left consider the middle far right nowadays.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

JORR thinks private citizens should have nukes.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I think that most Americans who currently pay income tax would support diverting some $ a year of their current taxes into a fund for government catastrophic coverage for those who develop terminal illnesses under the age of 18, like this poor kid. No parent should be bankrupted because their kid drew the shortest straw.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

i think that medicare should be extended to all children. for catastrophic care but regular care as well. those who pay 0 in income taxes are already doing this anyway so its not likely to cause a rise in more children being crapped out by these people and i think it will give the middle class a bit more footing to stay middle class. I think its fundable to an extent, i think its hard to fight against and i think it placates both parties (it should anyways...one of the democrats main arguments for it is HC for children and for republicans, per their prolife stand this should be applaudable) for adults ages 18-62, you are on your own providing it personally or through employment.

allow companies to provide care across state lines and boom. problem solved apart from all the disastrous problems i haven't thought of.

the major rub is these types of situations where the gvt decides that child can't be on the gvt dime any longer. (we def don't seem to do that currently with medicare...maybe we do) at which at that point, its on the parents.

BRick thinks rich guys like him and his chosen president, Marco Rubio should be the only people to control nukes. Scary thought.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Well as North Korea has proven its hard to get nukes from guys when there are warning signs.

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Merseyside Police
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@MerseyPolice
We've issued a statement this evening to make people aware that social media posts which are being posted in relation to Alder Hey and the Alfie Evans situation are being monitored and may be acted upon. Read the full statement here: https://goo.gl/hUZ5zB

11:48 AM - Apr 25, 2018
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Fucking lefty shite, maeng. This coulda been USA in a few years but "Thanks God for Trump".
Fucking Obummer and Hillary the Caller Bob almost killed this country (USA).
Close call. Thanks Trump. We love you. Live long and landslide Kamala Toe in 2020.

"quack quack quack"-Jesus of Nazareth

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Here is the full statement from what Cheap Charlie posted (and yes that's a real post from police there)

Merseyside Police
5 hrs ·
We've issued the following statement following reports of social media posts being made in relation to Alder Hey Hospital and the ongoing situation with Alfie Evans:

Chief Inspector Chris Gibson said: “Merseyside Police has been made aware of a number of social media posts which have been made with reference to Alder Hey Hospital and the ongoing situation involving Alfie Evans.

“I would like to make people aware that these posts are being monitored and remind social media users that any offences including malicious communications and threatening behaviour will be investigated and where necessary will be acted upon.”

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It's safe to say that the UK is no longer a free country by any stretch of the imagination.

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