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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:26 pm 
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No physical evidence, witness testimony on memories more than a decade old, and a defense hamstrung by not being able to call a witness who said the victim admitted to making up the allegations for money.

Yay, I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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No physical evidence, witness testimony on memories more than a decade old, and a defense hamstrung by not being able to call a witness who said the victim admitted to making up the allegations for money.

Yay, I guess.


I don't doubt Cosby is a predator but why was that disallowed? They would allow his conviction in a civil trial for damages.

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No physical evidence, witness testimony on memories more than a decade old, and a defense hamstrung by not being able to call a witness who said the victim admitted to making up the allegations for money.

Yay, I guess.

They did get to call that witness.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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There you go. One other thing I do not know not having followed closely. Is it normal for charges to be filed and a victim to testify after they already settled civilly for 3.5 million? That did not seem to add up as I always thought the money usually bought silence.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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No physical evidence, witness testimony on memories more than a decade old, and a defense hamstrung by not being able to call a witness who said the victim admitted to making up the allegations for money.

Yay, I guess.

They did get to call that witness.


You're right they did. She had an exact date of the discussion when the accuser couldn't even place the month and year she said Cosby assaulted her.

Got him! :roll:


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So I guess we won't get a Cosby show reboot.

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What the filth and foul and I'll filth and foul, filth and foul and, yeah, ya filth and foul face, and I'll filth and foul, foul, filth!

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So I guess we won't get a Cosby show reboot.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
No physical evidence, witness testimony on memories more than a decade old, and a defense hamstrung by not being able to call a witness who said the victim admitted to making up the allegations for money.

Yay, I guess.

They did get to call that witness.


You're right they did. She had an exact date of the discussion when the accuser couldn't even place the month and year she said Cosby assaulted her.

Got him! :roll:

Jesus Christ, are you always on?

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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Don Tiny wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
No physical evidence, witness testimony on memories more than a decade old, and a defense hamstrung by not being able to call a witness who said the victim admitted to making up the allegations for money.

Yay, I guess.

They did get to call that witness.


You're right they did. She had an exact date of the discussion when the accuser couldn't even place the month and year she said Cosby assaulted her.

Got him! :roll:

Jesus Christ, are you always on?


No I have off days.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
No physical evidence, witness testimony on memories more than a decade old, and a defense hamstrung by not being able to call a witness who said the victim admitted to making up the allegations for money.

Yay, I guess.

They did get to call that witness.


You're right they did. She had an exact date of the discussion when the accuser couldn't even place the month and year she said Cosby assaulted her.

Got him! :roll:

Jesus Christ, are you always on?


No I have off days.

That's a bummer. The next day will be better for sure. Maybe. Or not. I get a lot of 'or nots'. Your results may vary.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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Delayed justice but I am still happy he was convicted.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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Nas wrote:
Delayed justice but I am still happy he was convicted.

Racist.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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It just occurred to me that it's funny that Cosby played a gyno all those years while all of this ... well, you get the idea.

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Don Tiny wrote:
Nas wrote:
Delayed justice but I am still happy he was convicted.

Racist.


:twisted: :twisted:

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
Delayed justice but I am still happy he was convicted.

Racist.


:twisted: :twisted:

Elmhurst Nas. Very sad.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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It just occurred to me that it's funny that Cosby played a gyno all those years while all of this ... well, you get the idea.


Was Dr Huxtae an OB/GYN?

Shit, he should have claimed it was all method acting.

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Don Tiny wrote:
It just occurred to me that it's funny that Cosby played a gyno all those years while all of this ... well, you get the idea.


Was Dr Huxtae an OB/GYN?

Shit, he should have claimed it was all method acting.


Rhythm Method acting.

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Boyd, you're gonna have to up your game to compete with that level of pictorial excellence.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby
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There you go. One other thing I do not know not having followed closely. Is it normal for charges to be filed and a victim to testify after they already settled civilly for 3.5 million? That did not seem to add up as I always thought the money usually bought silence.


as a matter of law, there's no mechanism for individuals to "buy their way out of" criminal charges via large dollar amount settlements etc. it's the State bringing charges against the malfeasant defendant/Cosby on behalf of the victim. The victim's willingness to proceed with the charges and testify favorably to the State's case is an important part of the State's case--but it's entirely possible to have criminal charges brought and prosecuted with minimal involvement from the victim. And the victim's acceptance of a large dollar amount civil settlement has no impact on the victim being able to speak up in court--and that's likely true of civil proceedings for 3rd parties as well as their own criminal complaint against the defendant. basically, it's almost impossible to prevent someone from testifying in court by way of a civil settlement/NDA. As long as the court subpoeanas the testimony, it's getting heard.

the only thing the civil settlement protects the defendant/payor of the settlement from is another civil proceeding arising out of the facts/incident underlying the settlement and brought by that particular victim.


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Boyd, you're gonna have to up your game to compete with that level of pictorial excellence.


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Delayed justice but I am still happy he was convicted.

Agreed, but this will overshadow the bigger problem here....it was covered. There are many others that should go to jail with him.

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Delayed justice but I am still happy he was convicted.

Agreed, but this will overshadow the bigger problem here....it was covered. There are many others that should go to jail with him.


No doubt there are. MANY on social media are trying to use that to excuse his behavior. The man was a monster that had gotten away with raping dozens of women until he was near the end of his life. I hope he dies in prison.

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pittmike wrote:
There you go. One other thing I do not know not having followed closely. Is it normal for charges to be filed and a victim to testify after they already settled civilly for 3.5 million? That did not seem to add up as I always thought the money usually bought silence.


as a matter of law, there's no mechanism for individuals to "buy their way out of" criminal charges via large dollar amount settlements etc. it's the State bringing charges against the malfeasant defendant/Cosby on behalf of the victim. The victim's willingness to proceed with the charges and testify favorably to the State's case is an important part of the State's case--but it's entirely possible to have criminal charges brought and prosecuted with minimal involvement from the victim.

Reminds me of how the Subway guy gave a bunch of cash to his victims, but the judge still sent him away.


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Was listening to Ed Lover this morning and I was surprised by how many black and Hispanic women called in to defend Cosby, or at least say that people have gone too far.

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just another example of white privilege.

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