Arent their numerous (granted it's a smaller perentage) examples of male animals who do the caretaking?

I mean, have you completely dismissed Marsupial Frogs?


Naturally more inclined seems a lot more likely than naturally better though, Ill say that.

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You're also going to have a hard time using what happens "naturally" when we start to get into other "interactions" between males and females in the wild.

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You're projecting your own traits onto all men. You seem like a sensitive, thoughtful person. Not all men are, and that can be hard. I have a bond with my daughter that is indescribable. I would murder someone on her behalf at a moment's notice... and I'm glad I'm able to provide that for her. But I don't for a second think I have the skills my wife does in order to care for her. Regardless of whether my wife has worked since my daughter was born, she has always been the primary caretaker. She wants that, and so do I (again, I love my daughter, but I'm just not good at some of the stuff like empathizing and listening and knowing what her needs are). Again, it's a compliment to women. They are very special in that way. If you think about it, they make us look like clumsy buffoons on some levels.

The MasculinUT program does not treat masculinity as a “mental health issue,” and any such statements are simply not accurate. It was established to bring more men to the table to address interpersonal violence, sexual assault and other issues.

Too far back. We are most closely related to primates. There is a primate in Africa in which the females dominate, but we do not have as close a common ancestor with them as we do with chimps. I forget what they're called.

There is zero doubt my wife is the better caregiver and parent. She is way more patient than I am.

Hell, the dogs get depressed when my wife is gone.

Bonobos.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

I'm not applying it to everyone. It is an example of the kind of thinking that makes this kind of stuff still needed.

And, it's a more extreme version of the idea that many on here put forward that when a woman has a child that while she is at work that her job is secondary to her child and therefore she is not as good of a worker as a man who seemingly forgets about his kids as soon as he gets to the office.

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I initially missed this. Read the bold part. It illustrates why people are against stuff like this. You just admitted that you don’t see the class as a way to help men deal with their emotions better; instead, you see it as a way to brainwash and bully people into thinking like you. If someone wants to believe that a woman who works is abandoning their children, they have a right to think that no matter how distasteful it might seem to us.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

The thought police are coming...

No. That's a bad thought.

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Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

Spergs never lose.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

No, that's Parker Lewis, idiot.

Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

The thought police are coming...

Married with Children is one of my top 5 favorite shows and it couldn't exist today. That kinda makes me sad in the face of progress.

Neither could the Cosby Show.

No. That's a bad thought.

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Leash you're debating like a woman now. Coming back hours later to get a 2nd bite at something you already responded to.

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To be clear, are you saying people don’t have a right to bad thoughts?

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

They do but they shouldn't be normalized as if their backwards opinion is justifiable.

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We can be 99.99999999% sure that someone is wrong, but we can never be 100% sure, no matter how dumb the idea..

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Let's assume we can.