https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... li=BBnb7Kz

It doesnt say in the article, but I'm guessing this is a civil suit? Or are all defamation suits civil?

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yes it is a civil suit.

Her attorney has some big cojones. But he has been pretty spot on with his moves so far.

(((Who))) is paying all of her legal fees?

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He's made himself a multimillionaire if he wasn't already.

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She'd have to prove malice and damages, no?

"love your suit"-Duck of Death

#Maddock

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I don't think she's trying to win. I believe "victory" is getting a deposition from the president or possibly embarrassing him.

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Nope. Because your hero can either write her a big fat check or it will be "Mr President do you swear to tell the truth the whole....."

Saw a big billboard for her appearance at a local club some time this summer on my way back from the mecca

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Looks like everyone's favorite cowboy judge got the same idea.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nyt ... t.amp.html

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No I'm pretty sure that's "yep".

I'm not sure, but the two of you should definitely drag this on for a half dozen more pages.

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Damages, theoretically no, because the allegation is styled as per se defamation. The complaint alleges Trump's statement that she was lying about the guy harassing her was, in effect, a false statement accusing her of committing a statutory crime (some statute that makes it a crime to make a false statement claiming that a crime occurred - or something along those lines). (This seems pretty weak.)

As she is a public figure, she will need to prove actual malice - that he made a statement about her with reckless disregard for whether it was false or true. That actually may not be too tough to convince a jury of here.

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The notion of that orange anusface being deposed by a porn star's lawyer is fitting. And likely horrifying to his lawyers and the RNC.

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I read or heard somewhere that this attorney represented the fans who got screwed over at the Super Bowl held in Dallas and that he completely destroyed Jerry Jones on cross examination.

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You absolutely have to prove that the statement caused damage -- it had to hurt her reputation for it to count as defamation. She is suing for 75k, but I think she's going to have a tough road ahead to tie that to his "total con job" statement. For the moment, let us assume that Trump's statement is false (a requirement for defamation) -- how did this cost her 75k? Was she booked to various jobs that then refused to deal with her after that statement came out? I suppose it is possible, but seems unlikely. The burden of causality is upon her team... that's a tough one for me to believe, at least with the facts that are out today. Because she is a public figure, you are also correct that malice has to be proven as well.

This very much looks like someone who wants a news cycle but knows they can't win a case.

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It's official. Lawer quotient and those who choose to speak lawer has trumped all employable fields on the bored. One exception if we include the farmer community and include folks like me capable of not killing a tomato plant.

And I would say stormy is going to absolutely call him put on everything he says and tweets. It may be effective for her in forcing Trump to pay more, or allow her to freely talk about the tryst. There is just enough validity to this not to dismiss it out of hand. It won't go anywhere but the strategy may be very effective over time.

People hate Trump so much that many are happy that the President is being extorted by a person who literally has sex for money. What a time to be alive!

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At least Trump likes his country, unlike the last guy.
Iran deal unraveling just adds to the evidence of USA Hate by Last Guy.
Red Wave is forming.

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i dont hate him. or like him. but i think its wonderful he is being treated the same way he treats others. i was just about fired yesterday for telling my boss the same type of shit

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How does one defame a porn star....guys spooge all over her face

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Maybe that's just it. The word got out that she banged for him for free, and broken tv appearance promises. The shame of no compensation is the truly embarrassing concept in her world.

I mean these ARE twisted times.

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It's not personal, Walt. It's strictly business.

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This is false. If the statement is per se defamatory, damages are presumed under the law. Examples would include statements that she was involved in a crime (which is what she alleges he said), that she had an STD or committed some type of misconduct in a job.

What Juicy is doing is is teaching us the law school lesson when the plaintiff has to hand the defendant their entire case long before discovery starts.

Even Julie DiCaro wouldn't let Trump be put under oath you dumb ass

As a guy who probably should have had unprotected sex fewer times I have to question the judgment of a man who has unprotected sex with a sex worker.

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Probably?

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