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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:50 pm 
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All the Golden State Killer news got me remembering of the History Channel show they did last year. Pretty solid 5 episodes. Simultaneously working on the unsolved ciphers and tracking down new leads stemming from new interviews. Some rehash, but the two main suspects they focus on will easily make you forget about Arthur Leigh Allen.

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I think there was more than 1. I think there was a theory that said there had to be more than 1 person. Seems like a CIA psy-ops experiment.


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This was an excellent series. Them finding DNA on clothing of one of the victims could be a major breakthrough and also made national news. The process of trying to solve the ciphers is very interesting, especially the use of A.I. to determine patterns.

I started watching Hunting Hitler; while I have major doubts about Hitler faking his death, the show does provide interesting theories and show historic locations.

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it wouldn't shock me if Hitler made it out of Europe alive. so much chaos and scrambling around to handle an en masse surrender.

two zodiacs...I dunno. the timeline doesn't really support it. if anything, there'd be more victims or they would be more spread out. the ball was dropped when he killed the cab driver and the original BOLO fucked everything up.

These guys Kane and Sullivan... amazing how much you can get pegged into the role of a suspect through quirks in your life that happen to fall in line. and one, if not both could be innocent. so strange.

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i never really believed it was arthur leigh allen to begin with.

this book kind of intrigued me (i never read it):

https://www.cnn.com/2014/05/16/us/zodiac-killer-son-book/index.html

the guy looks pretty much identical to the police sketch.

zodiac was the first serial killer case i became obsessed with, along with son of sam (until i read all the stuff about the weird cult and his conversion to being a born-again christian). zodiac had so much bizarre stuff going on. the 2007 film did a good job of showing the whole scope, including the exhaustive police work involved.


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I read the Maury Terry Book on SoS,I really do not think Berky did it alone.

As far as the Hitler stuff,I went in thinking it was all BS now,not so sure. He prob made it out, the fact that Boorman skull was found in the subway but the clay on it was not native to the area but native to Paraguay.
Zodiac,that investigation was soo messed up,who knows who did it.

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oh please, we all know the Zodiac is running for reelection in Texas.

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CIA declassified documents lAst year that Hitler survived WW2 was found in SA.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -1954.html


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CIA declassified documents lAst year that Hitler survived WW2 was found in SA.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -1954.html


That's not what the article says at all. While I watched the first few of the Zodiac show on History, and enjoyed them, their decision to air the Hunting Hitler program means they have decided to become at the same level as Info Wars on the trust scale.

Their World Wars series was also truly awful, and very loosely can be described as "history".

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HawaiiYou wrote:
CIA declassified documents lAst year that Hitler survived WW2 was found in SA.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -1954.html


That's not what the article says at all. While I watched the first few of the Zodiac show on History, and enjoyed them, their decision to air the Hunting Hitler program means they have decided to become at the same level as Info Wars on the trust scale.

There World Wars series was also truly awful, and very loosely can be described as "history".

History Channel has been at that level of airing flat out bullshit for the past decade. Ancient Aliens anyone?

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Hunting Hitler always made me giggle as a title. Like where they going to find a wild Hitler in the rainforest?

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Hunting Hitler always made me giggle as a title. Like where they going to find a wild Hitler in the rainforest?


I believe that the program suggested that he was indeed hanging out in a rainforest in South America somewhere.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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HawaiiYou wrote:
CIA declassified documents lAst year that Hitler survived WW2 was found in SA.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -1954.html


That's not what the article says at all. While I watched the first few of the Zodiac show on History, and enjoyed them, their decision to air the Hunting Hitler program means they have decided to become at the same level as Info Wars on the trust scale.

There World Wars series was also truly awful, and very loosely can be described as "history".

History Channel has been at that level of airing flat out bullshit for the past decade. Ancient Aliens anyone?

History Channel is a joke. Ancient Aliens has done far more damage to the actual research going on about historical texts and ancient structures than it will ever help. It's sad.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens

13 seasons of this? How?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens

13 seasons of this? How?


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They were great and had huge balls with ‘The Men Who Killed Kennedy’ series. Best History channel doc ever.


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HawaiiYou wrote:
They were great and had huge balls with ‘The Men Who Killed Kennedy’ series. Best History channel doc ever.


That was not made by the History Channel. They just rebroadcast it, and it's also Info Wars level schlock.

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check out JFK: The Smoking Gun. Their theory is fairly simple and the more ive thought about it, the most likely.

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check out JFK: The Smoking Gun. Their theory is fairly simple and the more ive thought about it, the most likely.



Is that the one where he thinks the SS agent accidentally killed him? I read that one some years ago. I don't buy it.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens

13 seasons of this? How?



Ive never watched this and always thought it was on some other channel, not History. I know George Noory is behind this as I think Ive heard him sell it on the C2C shows.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens

13 seasons of this? How?


I don't know, but it runs like all day, every day. Not sure what they could still be talking about at this point.

We get it; aliens built the pyramids.

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History channel was once one of my favorites but when they flipped over to reality tv shut like ice road truckers I was done. It had already gone off track for me but at least there was an occasional thing that would be interesting but that was the end.


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Hunting Hitler always made me giggle as a title. Like where they going to find a wild Hitler in the rainforest?


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens

13 seasons of this? How?


I don't know, but it runs like all day, every day. Not sure what they could still be talking about at this point.

We get it; aliens built the pyramids.


It's no longer ancient. They have an episode on the government alien tracking program that was in the New York Times. Also, in watching the Hunt of the Zodiac I've found their formula. They take what should be a five minute segment, and turn it into a 45 minutes worth of programing. They rehash what their last segment was after every commercial break, and they have dramatic CSI-Miami face on the discovery of every piece of circumstantial evidence.

The Zodiac Killer wrote codes. This potential suspect took a class on codes. This revelation could be huge! Then it's forgotten or turns out to be nothing.

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History channel was once one of my favorites but when they flipped over to reality tv shut like ice road truckers I was done. It had already gone off track for me but at least there was an occasional thing that would be interesting but that was the end.

Ice Road Truckers was crap, but it's harmless crap compared to the stuff they air now which is pretty much putting Coast2Coast on TV. I quit History as well when they went reality TV, but that is less offensive to my sense than airing flat out bullshit masked as history. What's even more pathetic is that there are plenty of morons who watch Ancient Aliens and think it's the truth.

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History is almost as bad as The Learning Channel. Not quite yet, though.


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History is almost as bad as The Learning Channel. Not quite yet, though.

I miss cable TV of the 1990s.

Oh well, I can pretty much watch those type of documentaries on Prime, Netflix, etc. It's no wonder cable companies are losing several million subscribers per year.

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History channel was once one of my favorites but when they flipped over to reality tv shut like ice road truckers I was done. It had already gone off track for me but at least there was an occasional thing that would be interesting but that was the end.

Ice Road Truckers was crap, but it's harmless crap compared to the stuff they air now which is pretty much putting Coast2Coast on TV. I quit History as well when they went reality TV, but that is less offensive to my sense than airing flat out bullshit masked as history. What's even more pathetic is that there are plenty of morons who watch Ancient Aliens and think it's the truth.



I agree. It was just a last straw type thing. And yeah, prime and Netflix has plenty of the type of stuff from 90’s era history channel. I’m just really not into reality TV. There have been a couple that grabbed me for an episode or two but for most part.. I’ll pass and most of these shows would be better in mini doc form anyways.


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the only redeeming quality from this banal article is it subtly brings up a good point...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ca ... spartanntp

...why don't the departments of Vallejo, San Francisco, Solano, and Napa drop whatever beef they have between each other and solve the damn thing? they seem so preoccupied with having their own suspects they covet over another departments suspect, and each town at the same time seemingly doesn't want to admit - still - that the Zodiac killed in their towns. Like they're goddamned Mayberry and Sheriff Andy has to worry about getting reelected or something. Infuriating.

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