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"I do believe it’s because of who I am and how I look that they asked me to move tables,” said Wimbrey.


So they werent told they wouldn't be given a table, they were asked to move to a different table.

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Could it be the manager would rather have the couple sit at a 4-spot and give The Regular the primo 2-spot, rather than the manager "extending service" to the couple only to let fly with his evil racism after they had been seated and served something? Which is more reasonable to believe?

Why did the manager say he didn't like a person he supposedly didn't know?


Because he's a pinhead in Plano who had his limited sphere of influence challenged?

...or it was racially motivated which you fail to accept as plausible for some reason.

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The hell does it matter if they ordered at a bar or a table?


If they ordered prior to being seated, then no service was actually given outside of being seated.

Where did the drinks come from - across the street? I don't understand what you're trying to get at. It reads like you're suggesting that, because it was just drinks ordered and received, that no actual service was rendered.

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The manager demanded payment so services was given I assume.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Why did the manager say he didn't like a person he supposedly didn't know?


Because he's a pinhead in Plano who had his limited sphere of influence challenged?

...or it was racially motivated which you fail to accept as plausible for some reason.


If you were just going to try to answer for me why even ask me the question? Not-racism is more common than racism, way more common. Thus, it is more reasonable to presume the manager wasn't being racist than to believe he was asking the couple to change their seats because they are black.


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That Rosa Parks lady shouldn't have been so uppity and just moved to a different seat.

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That Rosa Parks lady shouldn't have been so uppity and just moved to a different seat.


Exactly the same situation here.

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That Rosa Parks lady shouldn't have been so uppity and just moved to a different seat.


Exactly the same situation here.

How do you know the man who told her to move was racist?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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That Rosa Parks lady shouldn't have been so uppity and just moved to a different seat.


Exactly the same situation here.

:lol: It's funny because it totally isn't the same.


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Douchebag wrote:
That Rosa Parks lady shouldn't have been so uppity and just moved to a different seat.


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Seems a lot more reasonable to believe the Bus driver didn't want to turn away the business of a regular in favor of the one-off business of a single black woman, especially given that the seat being sacrificed for the regular is a closer to the front, rather than infer racial bias because of the races of the respective parties.

And yes, when a proprietor asks you to leave the premises and you refuse, you are way more likely than not trespassing


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 Post subject: Re: Sambuca 360 in Plano
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If you were just going to try to answer for me why even ask me the question? Not-racism is more common than racism, way more common. Thus, it is more reasonable to presume the manager wasn't being racist than to believe he was asking the couple to change their seats because they are black.
It's reasonable to think that the black person he was kicking out of his seat for a white person in a prime location who he "didn't like" was possibly racially motivated. A manager of a nice restaurant is trained to be mindful of these types of things and how to handle moving a patron. This guy didn't care at all about that and went almost immediately into a personal attack on the person who was being wronged.

If had stayed calm and given rational explanations for the actions then you may be right that it may not have been racially motivated. The managers actions open up the door to thinking otherwise though.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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If you were just going to try to answer for me why even ask me the question? Not-racism is more common than racism, way more common. Thus, it is more reasonable to presume the manager wasn't being racist than to believe he was asking the couple to change their seats because they are black.
It's reasonable to think that the black person he was kicking out of his seat for a white person in a prime location who he "didn't like" was possibly racially motivated. A manager of a nice restaurant is trained to be mindful of these types of things and how to handle moving a patron. This guy didn't care at all about that and went almost immediately into a personal attack on the person who was being wronged.

If had stayed calm and given rational explanations for the actions then you may be right that it may not have been racially motivated. The managers actions open up the door to thinking otherwise though.


The couple were told that they wanted to give the 2-seat table to a regular and would be given another table. Is that not rational enough and if not, why?


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The couple were told that they wanted to give the 2-seat table to a regular and would be given another table. Is that not rational enough and if not, why?
When the couple respectfully said no it went to a much different place.

You can't just ignore 75% of what happened. :lol:

The manager opened up questions about his motives when he told someone he didn't know that he "didn't like him". The whole story changes at that point.

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The real DB here is the "regular". STFU about what table you get. Who demands that people move tables?

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The real DB here is the "regular". STFU about what table you get. Who demands that people move tables?


Shots fired at Joe Orr!


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Whether the restaurant has a right to do what they did is one thing, but you still can't deny they handled this horribly. The manager should've been comping them on stuff while requesting that they move. In the end this place deserves whatever backlash they are facing here. Just as with United Airlines and that Chinese doctor. They had the right to bump the passenger, but once he's seated, doing so is just morally wrong and the company needs to make an enticing offer to get the person to willingly and voluntarily move.

This would've been so easy for the restaurant to properly handle if their staff was not completely retarded.

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The real DB here is the "regular". STFU about what table you get. Who demands that people move tables?


Shots fired at Joe Orr!

:lol:

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Whether the restaurant has a right to do what they did is one thing, but you still can't deny they handled this horribly. The manager should've been comping them on stuff while requesting that they move. In the end this place deserves whatever backlash they are facing here. Just as with United Airlines and that Chinese doctor. They had the right to bump the passenger, but once he's seated, doing so is just morally wrong and the company needs to make an enticing offer to get the person to willingly and voluntarily move.

This would've been so easy for the restaurant to properly handle if their staff was not completely retarded.

I'm pretty sure I covered that when I referred to the guy as a 'douche-canoe'.

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Whether the restaurant has a right to do what they did is one thing, but you still can't deny they handled this horribly. The manager should've been comping them on stuff while requesting that they move. In the end this place deserves whatever backlash they are facing here. Just as with United Airlines and that Chinese doctor. They had the right to bump the passenger, but once he's seated, doing so is just morally wrong and the company needs to make an enticing offer to get the person to willingly and voluntarily move.

This would've been so easy for the restaurant to properly handle if their staff was not completely retarded.


But when the doctor said no it went in a completely different direction!


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Whether the restaurant has a right to do what they did is one thing, but you still can't deny they handled this horribly. The manager should've been comping them on stuff while requesting that they move. In the end this place deserves whatever backlash they are facing here. Just as with United Airlines and that Chinese doctor. They had the right to bump the passenger, but once he's seated, doing so is just morally wrong and the company needs to make an enticing offer to get the person to willingly and voluntarily move.

This would've been so easy for the restaurant to properly handle if their staff was not completely retarded.


But when the doctor said no it went in a completely different direction!

and with the threat to call the police (you know our jackbooted pieces of shit) it could've gone that direction or worse.

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Here is the restaurants number if you want to have some fun

469-467-3393

Edit: slow day so I left a VM asking for a reservation (using google voice of course) asked for a table for 2 by the window, gave the name Duke, David

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The couple were told that they wanted to give the 2-seat table to a regular and would be given another table. Is that not rational enough and if not, why?
When the couple respectfully said no it went to a much different place.

You can't just ignore 75% of what happened. :lol:

The manager opened up questions about his motives when he told someone he didn't know that he "didn't like him". The whole story changes at that point.


So it is more about how the manager reacted to their refusal than it is the manager offering a rational explanation for the move? Why did you say "if the manager had done [x]" if you were just going to not accept me pointing out he had done [x]?


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The couple were told that they wanted to give the 2-seat table to a regular and would be given another table. Is that not rational enough and if not, why?
When the couple respectfully said no it went to a much different place.

You can't just ignore 75% of what happened. :lol:

The manager opened up questions about his motives when he told someone he didn't know that he "didn't like him". The whole story changes at that point.


So it is more about how the manager reacted to their refusal than it is the manager offering a rational explanation for the move? Why did you say "if the manager had done [x]" if you were just going to not accept me pointing out he had done [x]?

This is a situation that anyone with basic people or customer service skills could've navigated. The manager is the one who escalated the situation when it probably could've easily been resolved with comped food and drinks. Even fucking Chili's managers could handle this situation better. This place handled it poorly and they deserve to be raked over the coals for it.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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The couple were told that they wanted to give the 2-seat table to a regular and would be given another table. Is that not rational enough and if not, why?
When the couple respectfully said no it went to a much different place.

You can't just ignore 75% of what happened. :lol:

The manager opened up questions about his motives when he told someone he didn't know that he "didn't like him". The whole story changes at that point.


So it is more about how the manager reacted to their refusal than it is the manager offering a rational explanation for the move? Why did you say "if the manager had done [x]" if you were just going to not accept me pointing out he had done [x]?

This is a situation that anyone with basic people or customer service skills could've navigated. The manager is the one who escalated the situation when it probably could've easily been resolved with comped food and drinks. Even fucking Chili's managers could handle this situation better. This place handled it poorly and they deserve to be raked over the coals for it.


Dude is very clearly a piss poor manager, as he turned loving up a regular into calling the cops on another customer.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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The couple were told that they wanted to give the 2-seat table to a regular and would be given another table. Is that not rational enough and if not, why?
When the couple respectfully said no it went to a much different place.

You can't just ignore 75% of what happened. :lol:

The manager opened up questions about his motives when he told someone he didn't know that he "didn't like him". The whole story changes at that point.


So it is more about how the manager reacted to their refusal than it is the manager offering a rational explanation for the move? Why did you say "if the manager had done [x]" if you were just going to not accept me pointing out he had done [x]?

It's about the whole thing. I understand you can "request" for a customer to switch tables. It has happened to me before. I understand that they are even allowed to kick out anyone they want for legally acceptable reasons.

However, when you look at why the people were being moved/kicked and how the manager made it personal and how they called the cops it leads you to believe that other things may have been at play. Even the concept of kicking someone out because a "regular" wants to sit in a noticeable part of the restaurant is questionable and it is only more questionable given how quickly the manager went to "I don't like you".

It's ok to think that someone in an interaction with a black man may have been at least somewhat racist.

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That manager needs to find a different line of work. What a dumb ass. I'm surprised he didn't make him prepay for the meal.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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"I do believe it’s because of who I am and how I look that they asked me to move tables,” said Wimbrey.


So they werent told they wouldn't be given a table, they were asked to move to a different table.

Correct.


Could it be the manager would rather have the couple sit at a 4-spot and give The Regular the primo 2-spot, rather than the manager "extending service" to the couple only to let fly with his evil racism after they had been seated and served something? Which is more reasonable to believe?

Why did the manager say he didn't like a person he supposedly didn't know?


Because he's a pinhead in Plano who had his limited sphere of influence challenged?
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That manager needs to find a different line of work. What a dumb ass. I'm surprised he didn't make him prepay for the meal.

The correct way to handle this is to apologize, ask them to move to another table and offer to buy the couple drinks or desserts for their trouble. If they refuse you leave them be, explain the situation and apologize to the regular and offer him drinks. If he is unwilling to accept this and threatens to never come back then screw him. Thats life.

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Here is the restaurants number if you want to have some fun

469-467-3393

Edit: slow day so I left a VM asking for a reservation (using google voice of course) asked for a table for 2 by the window, gave the name Duke, David

Why are you doxxing a restaurant??!?

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