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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:36 am 
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Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...

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Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 12:13 pm 
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Regular Reader wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.

PittMike wrote:
There's deflection #2


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Baby McNown wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.

PittMike wrote:
There's deflection #2


Is it even possible to have any type of rational conversation with a guy that comes into a conversation about John Kerry, brings up Trump, and then alleges that somehow he is not the one that deflected from the thread subject? :lol: :lol:

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Baby McNown wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.

PittMike wrote:
There's deflection #2


See. now that is clever without the meanness. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
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Baby McNown wrote:
Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.


Anyone that believes that there aren't any lows/lies Trump & his types won't stoop to should refrain from believing anything the criminal Netanyahu says.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-team-hired-israeli-intelligence-to-spy-on-obama-iran-deal-black-cube-2018-5

Sources told The New Yorker that the operation was carried out by Black Cube, an Israeli intel firm linked to the Mossad.

The firm carried out a similar intelligence probe for Harvey Weinstein towards women who accused the mogul of sexual misconduct following an outpouring of allegations in 2016 and 2017.

Black Cube responded in a statement, saying: "It is Black Cube's policy to never discuss its clients with any third party, and to never confirm or deny any speculation made with regard to the company's work," adding that they work within "full compliance of the law."

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
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Regular Reader wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.


Anyone that believes that there aren't any lows/lies Trump & his types won't stoop to should refrain from believing anything the criminal Netanyahu says.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-team-hired-israeli-intelligence-to-spy-on-obama-iran-deal-black-cube-2018-5


Sources told The New Yorker that the operation was carried out by Black Cube, an Israeli intel firm linked to the Mossad.

The firm carried out a similar intelligence probe for Harvey Weinstein towards women who accused the mogul of sexual misconduct following an outpouring of allegations in 2016 and 2017.

Black Cube responded in a statement, saying: "It is Black Cube's policy to never discuss its clients with any third party, and to never confirm or deny any speculation made with regard to the company's work," adding that they work within "full compliance of the law."



No one here believes that Trump is the Second coming, or an angel. But JORR has been nailing this entire situation from the beginning.

Some of us are able to see past partisanship to how all of this gotcha bullshit is going to hurt all of us going forward if it continues.

I'm sure the attempts to shame other posters for pointing out the obvious will continue. Here is to hoping the blind loyalty to political parties does not.

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:39 pm 
Seacrest wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.

PittMike wrote:
There's deflection #2


Is it even possible to have any type of rational conversation with a guy that comes into a conversation about John Kerry, brings up Trump, and then alleges that somehow he is not the one that deflected from the thread subject? :lol: :lol:

Is it even possible to deal reasonably with someone who complained about one party doing something then and then excuses that exact same behavior from their guys?


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:49 pm 
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Regular Reader wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Just so I'm clear on this, Hilldawg picking up the tab for the Dossier after the GOP gave up on it is bad, but Trump paying Israelis for dirt on Obama officials so he can scuttle the Iran deal is just fine. Did I get that right?


Trumpets & the outraged Kerry lynch mob, please address this...


Please.

Anyone who actually believes that a government on friendly terms with the Mossad needs to hire a firm to dig up dirt on ANYONE, should probably refrain from tossing out internet conspiracy theories like the one in red letters above.


Anyone that believes that there aren't any lows/lies Trump & his types won't stoop to should refrain from believing anything the criminal Netanyahu says.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-team-hired-israeli-intelligence-to-spy-on-obama-iran-deal-black-cube-2018-5


Sources told The New Yorker that the operation was carried out by Black Cube, an Israeli intel firm linked to the Mossad.

The firm carried out a similar intelligence probe for Harvey Weinstein towards women who accused the mogul of sexual misconduct following an outpouring of allegations in 2016 and 2017.

Black Cube responded in a statement, saying: "It is Black Cube's policy to never discuss its clients with any third party, and to never confirm or deny any speculation made with regard to the company's work," adding that they work within "full compliance of the law."



No one here believes that Trump is the Second coming, or an angel. But JORR has been nailing this entire situation from the beginning.

Some of us are able to see past partisanship to how all of this gotcha bullshit is going to hurt all of us going forward if it continues.

I'm sure the attempts to shame other posters for pointing out the obvious will continue. Here is to hoping the blind loyalty to political parties does not.


I've never seriously claimed that any serious poster here has believed that Trump is/was the Second Coming, an angel, or even a decent person. But JORR and others seem to have no qualms ignoring the extent to which Trump/Tea Party partisanship has created this monster, only to complain that the other side are too irrationally partisan. Which is the worst part in this to me.

Frankly right now I'm so very disgusted and angry about this goof and his band of roaches that I'm going to reserve any further comment. Edit: Except to recognize that you moved off of the internet conspiracy theory notion :lol: .

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
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But JORR and others seem to have no qualms ignoring the extent to which Trump/Tea Party partisanship has created this monster, only to complain that the other side are too irrationally partisan.



Because it's wrong. First of all, Trump has nothing to do with the Tea Party. He's a lifelong Democrat. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump- and you have- but he isn't some hard right Republican partisan. To suggest that he is or that he is aligned with the Tea Party is just false.

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
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But JORR and others seem to have no qualms ignoring the extent to which Trump/Tea Party partisanship has created this monster, only to complain that the other side are too irrationally partisan.



Because it's wrong. First of all, Trump has nothing to do with the Tea Party. He's a lifelong Democrat. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump- and you have- but he isn't some hard right Republican partisan. To suggest that he is or that he is aligned with the Tea Party is just false.


What?!? You really must be kidding.

He adopted their entire nonsensical platform or for what passed for one. He uses/used all their code words and dog whistles. Those people are his base. He's a lifelong opportunist that found and revels in populist republican/tea party politics because hypocrites and liars appeal to each other.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But JORR and others seem to have no qualms ignoring the extent to which Trump/Tea Party partisanship has created this monster, only to complain that the other side are too irrationally partisan.



Because it's wrong. First of all, Trump has nothing to do with the Tea Party. He's a lifelong Democrat. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump- and you have- but he isn't some hard right Republican partisan. To suggest that he is or that he is aligned with the Tea Party is just false.

Whatever he may or may not have been previously, Trump is currently as much a Democrat as you and I are Chinese.

In the end he's only in it for himself, but he's clearly much more comfortable with Tea Party ideas than any other political platforms out there.

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Reader, I thought the evil Ted Cruz was the tea party? If Trump opposes him until the convention more or less which is right?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But JORR and others seem to have no qualms ignoring the extent to which Trump/Tea Party partisanship has created this monster, only to complain that the other side are too irrationally partisan.



Because it's wrong. First of all, Trump has nothing to do with the Tea Party. He's a lifelong Democrat. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump- and you have- but he isn't some hard right Republican partisan. To suggest that he is or that he is aligned with the Tea Party is just false.

Whatever he may or may not have been previously, Trump is currently as much a Democrat as you and I are Chinese.

In the end he's only in it for himself, but he's clearly much more comfortable with Tea Party ideas than any other political platforms out there.


I think you're mistaken about that. He lines up with the Tea Party for the simple reason that they don't treat him as if he's a monster. He expressed the idea that guns should be confiscated, for God's sake. I'd say he has a lot more in common with Chuck Schumer than he does with John McCain.

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
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But JORR and others seem to have no qualms ignoring the extent to which Trump/Tea Party partisanship has created this monster, only to complain that the other side are too irrationally partisan.



Because it's wrong. First of all, Trump has nothing to do with the Tea Party. He's a lifelong Democrat. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump- and you have- but he isn't some hard right Republican partisan. To suggest that he is or that he is aligned with the Tea Party is just false.


What?!? You really must be kidding.

He adopted their entire nonsensical platform or for what passed for one. He uses/used all their code words and dog whistles. Those people are his base. He's a lifelong opportunist that found and revels in populist republican/tea party politics because hypocrites and liars appeal to each other.


You're just wrong. He certainly hasn't pushed a complete Tea Party agenda. The Tea Party is furious over his spending. He even lost Alex Jones- Alex Fucking Jones!- by upping U.S. involvement in Syria. (Of course, old line Republican warmongers and Democratic corporatists alike cheered that one.) I don't argue with your characterization of him as an opportunist, but is there a politician that isn't?

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The main difference between what Trump may or may not have done and what Kerry is doing is at least the Trump people had the decency to at least try to do it clandestinely and not rub our noses in the fact they are breaking the law.

Come to think of it,that seems to be the real difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans try to do things behind closed doors while Democrats do it in the open .

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
But JORR and others seem to have no qualms ignoring the extent to which Trump/Tea Party partisanship has created this monster, only to complain that the other side are too irrationally partisan.



Because it's wrong. First of all, Trump has nothing to do with the Tea Party. He's a lifelong Democrat. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump- and you have- but he isn't some hard right Republican partisan. To suggest that he is or that he is aligned with the Tea Party is just false.


What?!? You really must be kidding.

He adopted their entire nonsensical platform or for what passed for one. He uses/used all their code words and dog whistles. Those people are his base. He's a lifelong opportunist that found and revels in populist republican/tea party politics because hypocrites and liars appeal to each other.


You're just wrong. He certainly hasn't pushed a complete Tea Party agenda. The Tea Party is furious over his spending. He even lost Alex Jones- Alex Fucking Jones!- by upping U.S. involvement in Syria. (Of course, old line Republican warmongers and Democratic corporatists alike cheered that one.) I don't argue with your characterization of him as an opportunist, but is there a politician that isn't?


So he picks and chooses from the worst of the buffets (of cock?). But his rallies are stocked with tea party/populist :lol: republican idiots

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 Post subject: Re: John Kerry
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:53 pm 
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The main difference between what Trump may or may not have done and what Kerry is doing is at least the Trump people had the decency to at least try to do it clandestinely and not rub our noses in the fact they are breaking the law.

Come to think of it,that seems to be the real difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans try to do things behind closed doors while Democrats do it in the open .

Back on the sauce again eh? I seem to recall MANY screaming when it came out the DNC started picking up the tab the GOP left, which came our long after the Dossier was known.

I'll give you points for trying though.


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Reader, I thought the evil Ted Cruz was the tea party? If Trump opposes him until the convention more or less which is right?


Today's team partiers are really no different than the Dixiecrats, Wallace and Ralph Reed supporters. They're all fundamentally odious and publicly unprincipled. Cruz is one of their hypocritical embodiments.

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