That is true. Personally, I would not have given that order. I still think though that things there are different in how seriously they treat their borders and the Palestinian problem. There was no way they were just going to allow thousands to breach the fence, wall or whatever is there.

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It's almost like Obama wanted to kill Israel and the Jooooos.

"cut it out"-the antiChrist

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"Change has come to Amerika."- TFG

Whatever happened to simply arresting them or is that too much to ask?

Is murder the only solution in a situation like this?

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I do not believe murder was the best option. It is only my guess but I would say the reason there were not arrests because this was a border conflict and not an internal disturbance. I have no knowledge though of Israel's organizational differences as far as that goes.

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There has been a surprising uptick in the demand for kites and tennis rackets in the Gaza Strip.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I think it's a rather accurate account of the social dynamics at play when it comes to these arguments. You appear to not have anything substantive to say in response, as usual.

I tend to think most people would be horrified at any open firing into a crowd. If defending borders gives a people or country carte blanche to do anything they want though, then does this also apply to Palestinians living near the illegal West Bank expansions? For some reason I'm getting the sense that the answer to that question is no.

Horseshoe Theory is Good, Actually.

Well--doesn't it? Why have a border? Why have the word border? Why have the word defense?

Yeah, right now there are thousands of Israelis living in occupied Palestinian land. It seems like Palestinians are receiving explicit approval to grab some weapons and light up the Israeli citizens living in those settlements. Gotta defend your borders, we're told.

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I don't think the mere concept of borders automatically gives you an excuse to do absolutely anything you want to people along it in the name of defense, no.

You can go back a long way in World History. It is hard to imagine a trick bag as big as this Israeli-Palestinian thing has been.

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Do tell me, how many of those Israelis live in Gaza, which is where all of the violence is?

The answer is 0.

Israel literally forcibly removed any Jews living in Gaza in 2005 and then turned it over to the Gazans entirely. They answered by handing power to Hamas and building up arms caches because their true goal is the eradication of the Jewish state. The Gazans can enjoy rotting in their self made hell. They were given a prime chance to build, but as the Abba Eban quote goes: "The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I also wonder why the Jerusalem protests are in Gaza when the West Bank is the one that borders that city?

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Probably because none of this is about Jerusalem or the embassy.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

They are literally protesting in West Bank at this very moment. Turn on a TV or something...

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Well I am working... Are we not talking about the killings on the Gaza border though?

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Yeah, pretty low level over there and barely worth mentioning, which also means lethal rounds will not likely be used. Unlike in Gaza where it was planned to be a breakout with the intent of attacking and kidnapping Israelis. I guess that's the difference between when Hamas plans its vs. when others plan it.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

No, you're not.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

This is how the world has worked for all of human history(and in the case of Russia and China, the past few years too) up until the UN decided that Israel is a special case. I believe Israel would accept this proposal and let things shake out once and for all.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Makes you wonder if it will ever get to that. Or how much longer will this go on? The 1967 war everyone uses for a reference happened the year I was born. This argument all the board geniuses are solving today has been going on my entire life.

To this day I am not really sure what would make each side happy and be done with it. Sure I have some idea but does anyone have an exact list of demands that most consider reasonable?

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I just wish Trump had the balls to fire on those asylum seekers who told us in advance that they were going to storm our southern border last week.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

So to reiterate an old board truth:

Palestinian (or generalized Arab so as not to be rebuked by JORR telling me there's no such thing as a Palestinian)= Bad
Jew = Good.

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As long as Hamas is in control there then that is accurate in my opinion.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

After yesterday, there is less Bad in this world, and by extension relatively more Good.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

So Americans are bad right now and deserve to be slaughtered too.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Only if you storm Arby's with kites and tennis rackets.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I don't know. What I do know is that Jews don't have a charter that demands Arabs be wiped off the face of the earth.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Sometimes I wish you applied some of your intelligence seriously around here. Might make for good discussions.

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If they practice it without actually preaching or professing it then that somehow justifies it i guess?

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For what?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!